-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
-
Congrats to the winners of the 2023 Smog Awards!
The Everything NFL Punter Thread - 2014/2015 Season
- Thread starter Stallion
- Start date
- Status
After that Broncos @ Patriots last year, every single game in which we are winning by multiple touchdowns at the half feels like misery. I actually prefer when we're winning by less than a score, or even losing at the half. Then Foxball doesn't happen.
I'm a thousand times angrier at the NFL front office for lying about never having seen the video than I am about what the video showed about Ray Rice. Every reporter from numerous sources said the NFL saw this video, then lied about seeing it, then issued a 2-game suspension knowing he clocked her in the jaw?
Forget banning Rice (i mean he should still get at least another 6 games if not the season), Goodell shouldn't set foot into an NFL building again.
Also fuck the Ravens for their cowardly support of Rice. Though the Ravens didn't see the video as far as we know, Rice apparently told them everything. No excuse.
EDIT: Fuck the Ravens less for getting rid of Rice. I still think the NFL saw the video though.
A SECOND EDIT: Peter King saying he might have sucked at reporting when he said the NFL saw the tape. Not sure either way if they actually saw it lol
Forget banning Rice (i mean he should still get at least another 6 games if not the season), Goodell shouldn't set foot into an NFL building again.
Also fuck the Ravens for their cowardly support of Rice. Though the Ravens didn't see the video as far as we know, Rice apparently told them everything. No excuse.
EDIT: Fuck the Ravens less for getting rid of Rice. I still think the NFL saw the video though.
A SECOND EDIT: Peter King saying he might have sucked at reporting when he said the NFL saw the tape. Not sure either way if they actually saw it lol
Last edited:
It's probably more complicated than that. The NFL claims to have not seen the video, which is believable if you think it could be because the NFL didn't WANT to see the video. There is no indication from the NFL that they did not know about the video, only that they have not seen it. The NFL probably ignored it in the hopes that it would go away quietly, which after the 2-game suspension was of course impossible. They tried to fix it by changing the domestic violence policy, and probably would have gotten away with it except for the fact that the video was inevitably going to be leaked somehow.
This creates some pretty big football implications, too, aside from the obvious. The Ravens literally cannot cut Ray Rice (due to salary cap limitations) without an intervention (some form of cap reprieve/lifetime ban of Rice) from the NFL, and we already know who's side they're on.
This creates some pretty big football implications, too, aside from the obvious. The Ravens literally cannot cut Ray Rice (due to salary cap limitations) without an intervention (some form of cap reprieve/lifetime ban of Rice) from the NFL, and we already know who's side they're on.
It was one of the worst games the broncos played in a long time. It was dreadful to watch. I haven't been angrier at a win ever.
Which is why the 2011 Saints are the best team ever. It's why I'm for EVERY team try to score as many points as possible, even if winning by 40. If teams stayed aggressive at all times I bet we'd see less of these crappy games. The 2011 Saints should be praised. Coaches that run up the score should be praised. Terrible game by the Broncos and everyone in that organization should feel ashamed.
And the Ravens Cut Ray Rice
it's clear that the video going public was what got Rice his walking papers, not the act itself. Wrong message.
The Ravens need to apologize for their unconditional Public support of Rice and should admit that they were extremely idiotic throughout this entire situation.
I mean read this
it's clear that the video going public was what got Rice his walking papers, not the act itself. Wrong message.
The Ravens need to apologize for their unconditional Public support of Rice and should admit that they were extremely idiotic throughout this entire situation.
I mean read this
According to the Ravens and ESPN Rice has been released
yeah, I was mistaken, cuts after June 1st get the dead money pro-rated to the next year's salary cap. even then, the NFL has just suspended him as well, so I'm not sure they'll even take a cap hit.
Rice indefinitely suspended. Today is not a good day to be Ray, eh?
So they don't even follow their own new suspension policy and can unilaterally just change his suspension simply because a video pops up of the incident, even though it was pretty obvious what happened? Expecting an appeal by the players union on the change of his 2 game suspension to indefinite.
I know it's the unpopular thought here, but she still ended up marrying him for whatever reason despite the incident and they have both reached some level of moving past the incident. Can't they just let them fucking move on instead of now further ruining his career and ironically affecting her life as well? Things like TMZ are the dredges of society.
I know it's the unpopular thought here, but she still ended up marrying him for whatever reason despite the incident and they have both reached some level of moving past the incident. Can't they just let them fucking move on instead of now further ruining his career and ironically affecting her life as well? Things like TMZ are the dredges of society.
If what bothers you is that the NFL and the Ravens' move screams of backpeddling to appease public sentiment, then sure, I agree with you wholeheartedly. A two-game suspension was a laughable response to the incident in the first place. (I also am not sure I buy that this was the first time the NFL saw the video, since that directly contradicts what people like Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen have said, and they tend to have a pretty good idea of what is going on.)
As for the actual incident itself...
The fact that the victim in this instance chose to marry him regardless isn't really relevant. I'm not part of their relationship and I don't know what kind of power dynamic they have. Maybe she's moved on, or maybe this is actually the norm with him, and like many victims of domestic abuse she's been terrorized to the point where she feels like she doesn't deserve any better. Or maybe he has shown serious change in his personal life. That latter bit would be great! But ultimately, the Ravens brand is made up of its players and, for better or for worse, how the players conduct themselves off the field does have a bearing on the team as a whole.
Maybe I'm sensitive because I live in Baltimore, and so I see kids wearing Ray Rice jerseys every day. This is a guy who really seemed like a positive role model, who went out of his way to be involved in the community. He was the example people used to point to around here when they talked about how most NFL football players are actually stand-up guys, and that the Michael Vicks were the exception, not the rule.
And you know what? He still had a chance to make some positive change after this all happened. It wouldn't necessarily excuse his actions, but he could have said, hey, guys, I've got a problem. I have anger issues, and I lashed out and hurt someone I loved, and that's not OK, and here's what I'm doing to fix the problem. I mean, seriously, think about it. What if he had used this opportunity to actually open a public discussion on domestic violence from the male's perspective? That would actually be a pretty big deal, and might have gotten other people with similar issues to try to seek help. But no, instead, we got a mealy-mouthed half-apology and an attempt to shove everything under the rug and downplay the incident.
Well, guess fucking what, eventually it came out and now this asshole is out of a job. And so, I repeat myself: Good. Fucking. Riddance. This whole nonsense and the lukewarm response to it really dampened my enthusiasm for the Ravens, which is basically the only football team I've ever seriously cared about. Maybe now I can start wearing purple on Fridays again.
They were playing the hapless Giant offense though, so I wouldn't crown them just yet. I think the Packers still win the North, with the Vikings and Lions coming down to random tiebreakers to determine second (and the 6th playoff seed).
Who the heck even is the fourth team in that division? I just had a big brane fart :(
Probably because my Bills went into Chicago and took a hot, steamy dump on Soldier Field.
I reiterate what I said a couple posts ago: anyone who argued with me about Ray Rice can suck a fucking fuck. If you defended him, you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
And Shinryu could not be more right about TMZ being the fucking scum of the earth. Releasing that video is an incredible violation of Janay Rice's privacy as the victim in this whole affair, and all this added attention could possibly put her in more physical danger. Everybody involved in this situation has fucked it up royally (and in so many ways exacerbated it), so I don't want anyone to have the illusion that anyone did the right thing at any time.
I reiterate what I said a couple posts ago: anyone who argued with me about Ray Rice can suck a fucking fuck. If you defended him, you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
And Shinryu could not be more right about TMZ being the fucking scum of the earth. Releasing that video is an incredible violation of Janay Rice's privacy as the victim in this whole affair, and all this added attention could possibly put her in more physical danger. Everybody involved in this situation has fucked it up royally (and in so many ways exacerbated it), so I don't want anyone to have the illusion that anyone did the right thing at any time.
Yeah I know they played the Giants. The thing is the Lions have probably the least question marks when compared to Bears and Packers.
1. The Lions offence is just as good as the Bears and Packers, maybe even a bit better.
2. Their front 7 is one of the best, while the Packers and Bears defense are two of the worst in the league.
3. Their schedule is a little bit easier than the Packers and Bears.
I mean its easy to say the Packers will win just because they have Aaron Rodgers but I think that team has a lot of problems on defense and on their offensive line.
What kind of question is that? That was his first game ever as the head coach of the lions. When does a coach get fired before they even coach one game? If you knew he was the lions coach at any point in time then you would clearly know that he still is. The guy appears to do fine when he has legit offensive talent to use like Peyton Manning or Calvin Johnson. What the heck are you supposed to do with Joe Flacco? Too bad you can't blame Caldwell for the Ravens only scoring 16 points this week (thanks to a ridiculous blown coverage at the end of the game)
I dunno man, I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns fired half their front office after a single game.
The reason is either something-something-abuse-victims and/or "dude he's fucking loaded, I'd let some guy smack me around every once in a while to live the fucking high life too." Not that I don't agree with you.
da bears. i wish i could forget about them too.
someone doesnt understand a joke, no shit i know caldwell's the coach, the point is that he is horrendous. literally a sub 30 win percentage with wake forest, a completely uninspired coaching of a peyton manning led colts that had no aspect of good coaching after manning went down, into a bottom ranked ravens offense.
why would you be impressed after 1 game vs what appears to actually be one of the leagues worst teams. ill say it again, im not touchin the lions, they clearly have a lot of skill but their coach is a complete joke.
The Ravens backed up an accused murder. Were you really expecting them not to back up an assaulter? They just released him because of the circus.
- Status