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Super Smash Bros 4 (Spoilers ITT)
- Thread starter LonelyNess
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Your in luck, Mew2 might still have one.
Whats the exploit? I've been playing against humans more then cpu's so I haven't had the chance to explore it.
Anyway, I could go on and on about this game.
2 things I like
1. If you preform your recovery under the stage but more towards the ledge, it has a very high tendency to pull you up to the ledge.
2. If Mega Man has stuck you with a bomb and you are using Link, crouch and the bomb will do no damage no matter where it stuck you.
(Another thing, any luck with the GameXplain code?)
I've only tested it with Mario, Link, and Pikachu, since I doubt that Megaman and Villager would be able to pull it off. Basically, I up tilt them into the air a few times. Then they eventually get knocked back enough for them to have time to air dodge. The thing is, they almost always air dodge, so I can take advantage of that by going for another up tilt, and I can go for a side smash when the time is right. It can be tough to get close enough to land the first shot, since they're level 9 computers and all, but I've managed to deal around 60-70% through this method every time.
So basically you have played the demo so much that you now know how to beat a level 9 CPU with extreme ease. I feel bad for you that this game will be in the spotlight for the next 4 years at least, and it will be hard not to be tempted to do this every time you fight a CPU, but thankfully online mode seems to be a lot better from what I've seen on twitch. Good job finding that though, I'm tempted myself to go try it.
I do fight them for real most of the time, I was just testing some things out here and there is all.
If I was you I would be tempted to do it all the time, which I probably now might. Though the Amiibo should fix that with the whole "learns how you play" concept.
Except the model is all artifacting and broken lol. Pause when you're holding it still and take a look at it then. The model is whack lol will edit this when I'm out of bed and not on mobile lol
EDIT: Back on PC now. I've just been screwing around really in the demo at the moment, going to try out some Level 9 AI's in a bit :)
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Ghirahim also has a fairly broken looking model in my opinion.
Just as a note, from what I've read by pro players tilt chaining seems to be a fairly effective tactic regardless (although it may not guarantee you 80% damage...)
My friend and I are going to try to buy ourselves demo codes tomorrow, anything we can do to waste our time on it over skype together. :p
My friend and I are going to try to buy ourselves demo codes tomorrow, anything we can do to waste our time on it over skype together. :p
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I'm noticing that a lot of assist trophies act like pseudo-characters; they have a few different moves, move around like characters and can even be attacked. Ghirahim, Elec Man and dark Samus all seem to do it.
Also, Pikachu's Thunder goes through Battlefield's middle platform. But not the others, for some reason.
Also, Pikachu's Thunder goes through Battlefield's middle platform. But not the others, for some reason.
I have no idea how to utilt with tap jump on; i always end up jumping or smashing instead...
just wanted to pipe in to say that I find the easiest way to utilt (whether tap jump is on or not) is to buffer the attack while your character is busy doing something else-- tilt the control stick up while you're doing a dash attack or landing an aerial
gently tilting the stick (or going halfway up) may also be an option if that works for you, but I find it hard to do that quickly
I wished ;_;
they get in an email from nintendo for meeting some requirements.
The rest of us have to wait til Friday!
Alright after playing around with Mega Man some I thought I would share my thoughts (for those of you who arent on Smashboards. This is all pretty much there too. Seriously, get a Smashboards acc)
Alright, so, Mega Man. First thing I noticed about him is his Blaster. The range on this thing is just terrible, and often does minimal damage that you shouldn't consider using it. In the air you have better options such as the Fair or Bair, and Mega Man is a sitting duck when he's stationary. However, it is decent to get a percent or two as you're running, but when using them while running as your F Tilt, you cant dash, and even then, Mega Man's Dash Attack is really good for combo starting. So really, his main projectile isnt too good. The Metal Blade (Neutral B) however is decent for adding some pressure and long range damage. Additionlly, the Crash Bomb (Side B) is great for adding pressure and causing your opponent to Spot Dodge, Air Dodge, or move, allowing for some great punishment, and if it connects, then its great for combobreaking/starting. The Lead Shield (Down B) is nothing to right home about, but its good for stopping projectiles and inflicting some hitstun to take advantage of with a grab.
Mega Man's Up Smash, Down Smash, and F Smash all are decent kill options. The Up Smash is great for a D Throw combo at low percentage and reminds me of Marth's but with a larger hitbox. The Down Smash is decent for edgeguarding and Fair -> DTilt -> D Smash combos, I've found. And Finally, the F Smash is the best out of his Smash Attacks. Its a charge shot thats nice for punishing landing lag and missed grabs. However, all of these moves have a huge problem: Lag. They all have a fair amount of start-up lag, especially the Down Smash, making them somewhat easy to be shielded on. Also, they each have huge end lag, especially the F Smash. Still, the F Smash seems to be excellent for edgeguarding, especially given the new Edgeguard mechanics.
Now to the aerials. Mega Man's Fair and Bair are quick slashes, both being great for comboing, especially the Fair. The Bair also carries decent knock back with it. The Nair is the blaster, which I covered earlier, and the Dair is a Meteor Smash. However, the Dair has insane startup lag, landing lag, and ending lag, as well as a small hitbox, so I don't expect that to be used much. However, I did notice something huge about it. When Mega Man uses his Dair, all his horizontal momentum stays constant, while his vertical motion stops. His Dair is very good for horizontal recovery, basically. His Up Air is a Tornado Blast thing (Think Air Man from MM2). Its got low startup lag and has amazing hitstun. One combo I was fond of was Uptilt (Mega Man Upper) into the Up Air. The high vertical knock back of the Up tilit when combined with the Up Air took characters very far. However, I haven't tested this with a human so I don't know how DI dependent this is, but at high percentages I found Up Tilt -> Up Air to be very good at taking lighter characters to the top blast zone. For comparison, this combo took a ~95%
Villager to the top of Battlefield. http://smashboards.com/threads/smash-4-weight-rankings.367479/ According to that, Villager is mid-weight.
One final thing, I want to touch on Rush (Up B). Rush takes Mega Man very far vertically, and when combined with the Dair's horizontal recovery power, Mega Man has no issues getting back to the stage. Also Rush can combobreak (confirmed to be in the JPN release) so there's that. Oh, and Mega Man can attack out of Rush too, so with that and the combobreaking capabilities, Rush is very important for Mega Man to escape punishment and retaliate.
Hope that helps for anyone interested in Mega Man. :]
EDIT: Oh and the throws. Up Throw has a lot of knockback, but idk if its a killthrow given how high blast zones are now. F Throw is alright for spacing, but Mega Man sorta sucks at spacing, so... and D Throw is great for comboing at low percentages.
The whole Dair thing with horizontal momentum is sorta hard to pull off on the 3DS, but its a technique I think is worth it given how fast Mega Man falls.
Alright, so, Mega Man. First thing I noticed about him is his Blaster. The range on this thing is just terrible, and often does minimal damage that you shouldn't consider using it. In the air you have better options such as the Fair or Bair, and Mega Man is a sitting duck when he's stationary. However, it is decent to get a percent or two as you're running, but when using them while running as your F Tilt, you cant dash, and even then, Mega Man's Dash Attack is really good for combo starting. So really, his main projectile isnt too good. The Metal Blade (Neutral B) however is decent for adding some pressure and long range damage. Additionlly, the Crash Bomb (Side B) is great for adding pressure and causing your opponent to Spot Dodge, Air Dodge, or move, allowing for some great punishment, and if it connects, then its great for combobreaking/starting. The Lead Shield (Down B) is nothing to right home about, but its good for stopping projectiles and inflicting some hitstun to take advantage of with a grab.
Mega Man's Up Smash, Down Smash, and F Smash all are decent kill options. The Up Smash is great for a D Throw combo at low percentage and reminds me of Marth's but with a larger hitbox. The Down Smash is decent for edgeguarding and Fair -> DTilt -> D Smash combos, I've found. And Finally, the F Smash is the best out of his Smash Attacks. Its a charge shot thats nice for punishing landing lag and missed grabs. However, all of these moves have a huge problem: Lag. They all have a fair amount of start-up lag, especially the Down Smash, making them somewhat easy to be shielded on. Also, they each have huge end lag, especially the F Smash. Still, the F Smash seems to be excellent for edgeguarding, especially given the new Edgeguard mechanics.
Now to the aerials. Mega Man's Fair and Bair are quick slashes, both being great for comboing, especially the Fair. The Bair also carries decent knock back with it. The Nair is the blaster, which I covered earlier, and the Dair is a Meteor Smash. However, the Dair has insane startup lag, landing lag, and ending lag, as well as a small hitbox, so I don't expect that to be used much. However, I did notice something huge about it. When Mega Man uses his Dair, all his horizontal momentum stays constant, while his vertical motion stops. His Dair is very good for horizontal recovery, basically. His Up Air is a Tornado Blast thing (Think Air Man from MM2). Its got low startup lag and has amazing hitstun. One combo I was fond of was Uptilt (Mega Man Upper) into the Up Air. The high vertical knock back of the Up tilit when combined with the Up Air took characters very far. However, I haven't tested this with a human so I don't know how DI dependent this is, but at high percentages I found Up Tilt -> Up Air to be very good at taking lighter characters to the top blast zone. For comparison, this combo took a ~95%
Villager to the top of Battlefield. http://smashboards.com/threads/smash-4-weight-rankings.367479/ According to that, Villager is mid-weight.
One final thing, I want to touch on Rush (Up B). Rush takes Mega Man very far vertically, and when combined with the Dair's horizontal recovery power, Mega Man has no issues getting back to the stage. Also Rush can combobreak (confirmed to be in the JPN release) so there's that. Oh, and Mega Man can attack out of Rush too, so with that and the combobreaking capabilities, Rush is very important for Mega Man to escape punishment and retaliate.
Hope that helps for anyone interested in Mega Man. :]
EDIT: Oh and the throws. Up Throw has a lot of knockback, but idk if its a killthrow given how high blast zones are now. F Throw is alright for spacing, but Mega Man sorta sucks at spacing, so... and D Throw is great for comboing at low percentages.
The whole Dair thing with horizontal momentum is sorta hard to pull off on the 3DS, but its a technique I think is worth it given how fast Mega Man falls.
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I'm about to give up; it's a shame that people are selling their platinum codes instead of giving them away but I guess this just shows the lack of generosity this society has. Basically, if you aren't rich, famous or really really really lucky you won't play Smash till next Friday. Thanks world
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#firstworldproblems
Why not sell it if someone is dumb enough to buy it?
Well you're not entitled to a code. I mean I know that situation you're in, I spent most of the afternoon last night finding a code (eventually got one from a fren who got their codes later in the day), but the whole thing about a lack of generosity really rubs me the wrong way.
If you want to blame anyone, blame Nintendo for causing all this. Why the demo just isn't out completely, let alone the game, is beyond me.
All final smashes for those who don't know them:
There is 2 videos on Bowser Jr. And the other koopa's, I wont post them here so I don't continue flooding the chat with GameXplain, but you can find them here: www.youtube.com/user/gamexplain/videos
There is 2 videos on Bowser Jr. And the other koopa's, I wont post them here so I don't continue flooding the chat with GameXplain, but you can find them here: www.youtube.com/user/gamexplain/videos
I disagree. If you want to blame anything, blame your own attitude. What right does anyone have to complain about free stuff? You're basically getting the bare basics of the game a few weeks early... For free. Nobody cares if it doesn't live up to your expectations.
Mew2