tcr
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talked a lot with Goddess Briyella in PM and I think we decided on having two sets, and at the least delaying GP so we can clean this up. Like I told her, I'm perfectly fine with a Bulk Up set (most of my arguing with her was simply to understand what her set did, how it works, etc) but I do not think it should just largely replace the other set. Heysup my set certainly looks like a "so what" set because it is lol. It was tailor made for that specific team, and tailor made to beat Pokemon like Pawniard, Misdreavus, Gastly, etc as opposed to being a more standard set. It was my fault for not posting a more standard one with a better EV spread, as I simply copy/pasted from an import I had. So ofc it is going to be bad as a standard, I simply used it as a basis to get the general idea flowing. I have already talked to Goddess Briyella about how this needs cleaned up. Goddess Briyella a Brave nature was simply used to lower Speed as much as possible, Honedge was only an example of a Pokemon that I was preparing for (I am aware it isn't exactly meta).
Imo we need two seperate sets, as the way Goddess Briyella explained her BU set was that it is actually meant to be a sweeper. It is not something like CM Spritzee, in that BU is basically a filler move that it can use if the situation arises to it. One BU set, and one Pivot set imo, as Chespin's unique ability and bulk allow it to switch into tons of Pokemon, and give it the chance to set up something like hazards, set Leech Seed, hit a Rock Tomb / Low Sweep, w/e you want to do. I really like Heysup's idea of Spikes / Roar being on the set, I'm just concerned as to how that would do moveset wise, as in my experience Chespin should use at least 2 attacking moves (I use Seed Bomb / Low Sweep).
Just trying to get some discussion going here, I also kinda want to see more utility on a possible Pivot set. I was thinking a moveset of Spikes / Seed Bomb / Synthesis / [Low Sweep / Rock Tomb / Roar / w/e] but I'm not too sure
Imo we need two seperate sets, as the way Goddess Briyella explained her BU set was that it is actually meant to be a sweeper. It is not something like CM Spritzee, in that BU is basically a filler move that it can use if the situation arises to it. One BU set, and one Pivot set imo, as Chespin's unique ability and bulk allow it to switch into tons of Pokemon, and give it the chance to set up something like hazards, set Leech Seed, hit a Rock Tomb / Low Sweep, w/e you want to do. I really like Heysup's idea of Spikes / Roar being on the set, I'm just concerned as to how that would do moveset wise, as in my experience Chespin should use at least 2 attacking moves (I use Seed Bomb / Low Sweep).
Also Heysup that is exactly what we are doing right now. The thing is we never got the chance to discuss it until right now, because of when Briyella's post was made.1) If one of the primary reasons for using a Pokemon is banned or altered in some way, I think it goes without saying that the over all analysis should at least be reevaluated.
note: even if there's just an new opinion or thought brought to the table, it should be reevaluated. The job is called quality control after all.
agreedWhen I used Chespin for fun I think Spikes and Roar were two of the better moves that are sort of being understated here.
I already said earlier in this post as well as to Bri in PM, but I would just like to state it further that I personally used Chespin as a "glue" Pokemon, something to patch up weaknesses to my team, so on paper it obviously looks like shit, but it was meant to be a lure to Pokemon like Pawniard (Low Sweep, while also having utility) or to stop Tirtouga (Seed Bomb as well as STAB) while also being a counter to Misdreavus (Payback + 108 Brave EVs). Obviously the EV set would definitely be changed now, but it was extremely relevant during the end of Missy era.The set TCR listed above is a very much "so what" set in that it doesn't actually do much (its attack is not that high as to run 3 attacking moves (only one of them being STAB)). I think it needs some utility besides just switching into something (especially other Pokemon that can set up hazards or burn it or something).
Just trying to get some discussion going here, I also kinda want to see more utility on a possible Pivot set. I was thinking a moveset of Spikes / Seed Bomb / Synthesis / [Low Sweep / Rock Tomb / Roar / w/e] but I'm not too sure