Gligar (SD+BP)

[Water Drone]

QC Checks: atomicllamas / SilentVerse / Spirit

GP Checks: V0x / fleurdyleurse

Swords Dance + Baton Pass
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name: Swords Dance + Baton Pass
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Roost
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Immunity
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Nature: Impish

Moves
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Swords Dance allows Gligar to double its Attack and pass it on to incoming teammates with Baton Pass. Roost is a source of reliable recovery, which ensures that Gligar is not worn down too easily, and can accumulate a few more boosts and Baton Pass effectively. Earthquake is Gligar's reliable STAB attack, giving it some offensive presence if it needs to utilize the boosts itself. Earthquake also helps to beat threatening Taunt users, such as Drapion and Cobalion. Agility can be used with an alternate spread for when Gligar wants to pass to a slower threat that needs a bit of extra Speed to sweep, while Substitute can be used to pass a Substitute to a frail sweeper to guarantee it lives a hit from the opposing Pokemon.

Set Details
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252 EVs in HP and Defense, an Impish nature, Eviolite, and 4 EVs in Special Defense give some bulk to Gligar and allow it to take hits while boosting, even acting as a strong physical wall. Gligar is not invested in Speed, which allows it to slowly pass accumulated boosts and bring its teammates in safely. A spread with a Relaxed nature and 9 Speed IVs can be used to just underspeed Alomomola, ensuring that the incoming physical attacker will not be taking a Scald or Toxic. An alternate spread with Speed investment can be run to ensure Gligar outpaces some Taunt users and can pass Agility and Substitute more efficiently.

Usage Tips
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Gligar can come in on most Fighting-, Poison-, and Steel-types, such as Hitmonlee, Skuntank, and Cobalion, and begin setting up. Remove all immediate threats to Gligar before setting up, such as Pokemon with Ice-type moves, or Water-types such as Slowking. Thanks to its bulk, Gligar can set up numerous times, and because it is uninvested in Speed, it makes for a great relatively slow Baton Pass user to get Pokemon in unscathed. Finally, Gligar should pass boosts to faster Pokemon such as Sharpedo, Drapion, and Cobalion, and Shiftry, as otherwise, the Pokemon receiving the boosts might be easily outsped and revenge killed.

Team Options
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Gligar functions well in tandem with fast physical sweepers, such as Cobalion and Sharpedo, as they appreciate the Attack boosts and can effectively sweep through opposing teams. Gligar also effectively walls Fighting-types for both Cobalion and Sharpedo, and is immune to Ground for Cobalion, and Electric for Sharpedo. Drapion works well in tandem with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Drapion's sole weakness, Ground, and Drapion is a nice Baton Pass receiver with its good Speed. Water-types such as Slowking and Clawitzer work well with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Electric-type attacks, and they can take Ice- and Water-type moves for it in return. Lastly, Shiftry is a good teammate, as it appreciates Gligar's ability to take Bug-, Fighting-, and Poison-type moves for it, and also makes good use of boosts that Gligar could pass to it. Shiftry also resists Water-type moves which Gligar is weak to, so it can take those hits for it; furthermore, with Shiftry's immunity to Psychic-type moves, it is a great Pokemon to Baton Pass to if Gligar is threatened out by Slowking.

 

[Water Drone]

I'm going to put the essential moves for the basic sd+bp Gligar, as it really needs all of these moves. I'm going to put basically what are other options in the moves section, such as agility and substitute, and alternate spreads in set details.

 

[Water Drone]

Alright, this is ready for checks.

 

[atomicllamas]

QC approved 1/3

Don't Mention defensive synergy when talking about sharpedo as a partner though, as it gets rekt by water / ice moves anyways thanks to its weakness, just say Sharpedo is a good recipient because it has access to speed boost and a good dual STAB

 

[SilentVerse]

QC APPROVED 2/3

 

[Water Drone]

Alright all written, ready for last check.

 

[Water Drone]

Implemented, thank you. Ready for GP!

 

[tehy]

amcheck

read the comments, they are fucking important

Two parts I really felt needed some improvement, especially the second one (the first one has that main move shit, i.e. crux of this set shit, i.e. gtfo). You'll know what I mean when you see it.

comments

Are Agility/Substitute supposed to be used instead of Earthquake, or Swords Dance? Normally I ask this question from the perspective of "befuddled noob" to explain said perspective, but this time i'm genuinely not sure. It comes after earthquake, but a lot of the context especially later implies you want it instead of SD.

What are the downsides of the two spreads you listed in set details? And how does more speed let you BP a sub better, anyhow? Anything fast is still breaking it and either way, those subs get broken on the pass almost always. And how does it help you pass agility-because you outspeed all scarfers? Elaborate a bit more, btw what do you mean by 'more efficiently'? It takes less turns to do so? Cause thats what that means. And which taunt users is it outspeeding-Drapion?

Also, what IS the downside of that underspeeds-Alomomola spread? Sounds pretty bitchin' considering its weakass scald or waterfall is setup bait as a motherfucker anyhow. Sure it can burn you but that's not stopping you from BP'ing +6 to whatever and GG. But if that got scald burned on the switch-in, it might actually be a problem. Anyhow, elaborate why I wouldn't want to use said spread, and if you can't, consider making it the main spread.

Shiftry's not that fast, just has priority. Important difference.

You know, Shiftry's weak to Fire Blast and Ice Beam, plus it hates Scald burns obviously. It's not a terrible pass and the Psychic immunity helps a little, but overall i'm not so sure about it. Maybe if you stick a Lum on it?

Also, screw 'the likes of slowking'. The Psy immunity helps it pass on water-type psychic users, which is to say, only slowking. Maybe say separately the resistance to water helps it against all waters or something, you need to do a bit more here to make that make sense.

amcheck

Swords Dance+Baton Pass
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name: Swords Dance+Baton Pass
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Roost
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Immunity
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Nature: Impish

Moves
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Swords Dance is the main move of the set, allowings Gligar to double its aAttack, and pass it on to incoming teammates. Baton pPass ilets fyoru passing all those boosts you've acquiredn to sincomething theat cmman put them to good use. Roost is a source of reliable recovery, and ensures that Gligar is not worn down too easily, and can accumulate a few more boosts and pass effectively. Earthquake is Gligar's reliable STAB attack, as it givesing Gligar some offensive presence if it needs to utilizse its boosts itself. It also helps beat threatening Taunt users, such as Drapion and Cobalion. Agility can be used with an alternate spread for when Gligar wants to pass to a slower threat that needs a bit of extra speed to sweep, while Substitute can be used to pass to a frail sweeper as ito guarantee it lives a hit from the opposing Pokemon.

Set Details
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252 EVs in HP and Defense, as well as an Impish Nature, an Eviolite, and 4 EVs in Special Defense, provide general bulk to Gligar and allow it to take hits whilste boosting!, Aevend wiacth 252 Def EVs Gling ar becomes a really strong physical wall and can take a few hits from physical threats, with the remaining EVs put into Special Defense. Gligar is not invested in Speed, which allows it to slowly pass accumulated boosts, and bring its teammates in safely. An Impish nature is used to maximize the physical bulk of Gligar so it can take more hits, while Eviolite further increases both of Gligar's defenses. A spread with a Relaxed nature and 9 Speed IVs can be used to just underspeed Alomomola, ensuring the incoming physical attacker will not be taking thea Scald or Toxic. An alternate spread with Speed investment can be run, to ensure Gligar outpaces some Taunt users, and canto help it pass Agility and Substitute more effeiciently.

Usage Tips
========

Gligar can come in on most Fighting-types, Poison-types, and Steel-types, such as Hitmonlee, Skuntank, and Cobalion, and begin setting up.b Remove all immediate threats to Gligar before setting up, such as Pokemon with Ice-type coverage moves, or strong Water-types such as Slowking. Thanks to its bulk, Gligar can set up numerous times, and because it is uninvested in Speed, it makes for a great relatively slow Baton Pass user to get Pokemon in unscathed. Finally, Gligar should pass to faster Pokemon or priority users, such as Sharpedo, Drapion, and Cobalion, and Shiftry, as otherwise, the Pokemon receiving the boosts may be easily outsped and revenge killed.

Team Options
========

Gligar functions well in tandem with fast physical sweepers, such as Cobalion and Sharpedo, as they appreciate the Attack Bboosts and can effectively sweep through opposing teams. Gligar also effectively walls Fighting-types for both, as well as being immune to Ground for Cobalion, and to Electric for Sharpedo. Drapion works well in tandem with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Drapion's sole weakness, Ground, and Drapion is a nice Baton Pass recieiver with its good Speed. Water-types such as Slowking and Clawitzer work well with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Electric-type attacks, and they can take Ice- and Water-type hits for it in return. Lastly, Shiftry is a good teammate, as it appreciates Gligar's ability to take Bug-, Fighting-, and Poison-type moves for it, while also making good use of boosts that Gligar could pass to it. Shiftry alsond resists Gligar's weakiness tog Water-type moves, so it can take those hits for it. Given Shiftry's immunity to Psychic-type moves, it is a great Pokemon to pass to if Gligar is threatened out by the likes of Slowking.

 

[Lemonade]

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Swords Dance+Baton Pass
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name: Swords Dance+Baton Pass
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Roost
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Immunity
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Nature: Impish

Moves
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Swords Dance is the main move of the set, allowing allows Gligar to double its attack Attack, and pass it on to incoming teammates with Baton Pass. Baton pass is for passing all the boosts you've acquired to something that can put them to good use. Roost is a source of reliable recovery, and ensures that Gligar is not worn down too easily, and can accumulate a few more boosts and pass effectively. Earthquake is Gligar's reliable STAB attack, as it gives giving Gligar some offensive presence if it needs to utilize its the boosts itself. It also helps to beat threatening Taunt users, such as Drapion and Cobalion. Agility can be used with an alternate spread for when Gligar wants to pass to a slower threat that needs a bit of extra speed to sweep, while Substitute can be used to pass to a frail sweeper as it to guarantee it lives a hit from the opposing Pokemon.

Set Details
========

252 EVs in HP and Defense, as well as an Impish Nature, an Eviolite, and 4 EVs in Special Defense provide general bulk to Gligar and allow it to take hits while boosting, even acting as a strong physical wall. 252 EVs in HP is to provide general bulk to Gligar and allow it to take hits whilst boosting! And with 252 Def EVs Gligar becomes a really strong physical wall and can take a few hits from physical threats, with the remaining EVs put into Special Defense. Gligar is not invested in Speed, which allows it to slowly pass accumulated boosts, and bring its teammates in safely. An Impish nature is used to maximize the physical bulk of Gligar so it can take more hits, while Eviolite further increases both of Gligar's defenses. A spread with a Relaxed nature and 9 Speed IVs can be used to just underspeed Alomomola, ensuring the incoming physical attacker will not be taking the a Scald or Toxic. An alternate spread with Speed investment can be run, to ensure Gligar outpaces some Taunt users, and can pass Agility and Substitute more effeciently efficiently.

Usage Tips
========

Gligar can come in on most Fighting-types, Poison-types, and Steel-types, such as Hitmonlee, Skuntank, and Cobalion, and begin setting up.bRemove all immediate threats to Gligar before setting up, such as Pokemon with Ice-type coverage moves, or Water-types such as Slowking. Thanks to its bulk, Gligar can set up numerous times, and because it is uninvested in Speed, it makes for a great relatively slow Baton Pass user to get Pokemon in unscathed. Finally, Gligar should pass to faster Pokemon such as Sharpedo, Drapion, and Cobalion, and Shiftry, as otherwise, the Pokemon receiving the boosts may be easily outsped and revenge killed.

Team Options
========

Gligar functions well in tandem with fast physical sweepers, such as Cobalion and Sharpedo, as they appreciate the Attack Boosts and can effectively sweep through opposing teams. Gligar also effectively walls Fighting-types for both, as well as being immune to Ground for Cobalion, and Electric for Sharpedo. Drapion works well in tandem with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Drapion's sole weakness, Ground, and Drapion is a nice Baton Pass reciever with its good Speed. Water-types such as Slowking and Clawitzer work well with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Electric-types attacks, and they can take Ice- and Water-type hits for it in return. Lastly, Shiftry is a good teammate, as it appreciates Gligar's ability to take Bug-, Fighting-, and Poison-type moves for it, while also making and also makes good use of boosts that Gligar could pass to it. Shiftry also resists Gligar's weakness to Water-type moves, so it can take those hits for it. Given Shiftry's immunity to Psychic-type moves, it is a great Pokemon to pass to if Gligar is threatened out by the likes of Slowking.

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[fleurdyleurse]

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Swords Dance+Baton Pass
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name: Swords Dance+Baton Pass
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Roost
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Immunity
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Nature: Impish
Moves
========
Swords Dance allows Gligar to double its Attack, and pass it on to incoming teammates with Baton Pass. Roost is a source of reliable recovery, andwhich ensures that Gligar is not worn down too easily, and can accumulate a few more boosts and pBaton Pass effectively. Earthquake is Gligar's reliable STAB attack, giving Gligarit some offensive presence if it needs to utilize the boosts itself. ItEarthquake also helps to beat threatening Taunt users, such as Drapion and Cobalion. Agility can be used with an alternate spread for when Gligar wants to pass to a slower threat that needs a bit of extra sSpeed to sweep, while Substitute can be used to pass a Substitute to a frail sweeper to guarantee it lives a hit from the opposing Pokemon.
Set Details
========
252 EVs in HP and Defense, as well as an Impish Nnature, an Eviolite, and 4 EVs in Special Defense provide generalgive some bulk to Gligar and allow it to take hits while boosting, even acting as a strong physical wall. Gligar is not invested in Speed, which allows it to slowly pass accumulated boosts, and bring its teammates in safely. A spread with a Relaxed nature and 9 Speed IVs can be used to just underspeed Alomomola, ensuring that the incoming physical attacker will not be taking a Scald or Toxic. An alternate spread with Speed investment can be run, to ensure Gligar outpaces some Taunt users, and can pass Agility and Substitute more efficiently.
Usage Tips
========
Gligar can come in on most Fighting-, Poison-, and Steel-types, such as Hitmonlee, Skuntank, and Cobalion, and begin setting up. Remove all immediate threats to Gligar before setting up, such as Pokemon with Ice-type moves, or Water-types such as Slowking. Thanks to its bulk, Gligar can set up numerous times, and because it is uninvested in Speed, it makes for a great relatively slow Baton Pass user to get Pokemon in unscathed. Finally, Gligar should pass boosts to faster Pokemon such as Sharpedo, Drapion, and Cobalion, and Shiftry, as otherwise, the Pokemon receiving the boosts mayight be easily outsped and revenge killed.
Team Options
========
Gligar functions well in tandem with fast physical sweepers, such as Cobalion and Sharpedo, as they appreciate the Attack Bboosts and can effectively sweep through opposing teams. Gligar also effectively walls Fighting-types for both, as well as being Cobalion and Sharpedo, and is immune to Ground for Cobalion, and Electric for Sharpedo. Drapion works well in tandem with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Drapion's sole weakness, Ground, and Drapion is a nice Baton Pass recieiver with its good Speed. Water-types such as Slowking and Clawitzer work well with Gligar, as Gligar is immune to Electric-type attacks, and they can take Ice- and Water-type hitmoves for it in return. Lastly, Shiftry is a good teammate, as it appreciates Gligar's ability to take Bug-, Fighting-, and Poison-type moves for it, and also makes good use of boosts that Gligar could pass to it. Shiftry also resists Gligar's weakness to Water-type moves which Gligar is weak to, so it can take those hits for it. Given; furthermore, with Shiftry's immunity to Psychic-type moves, it is a great Pokemon to pBaton Pass to if Gligar is threatened out by Slowking.

GP 2/2
oh, and change Swords Dance+Baton Pass to Swords Dance + Baton Pass

 

[Water Drone]

Alright thanks fleurdyleurse, implemented. This is done.

 

[Molk]

alrighty, this has been uploaded!