Other ORAS Mega Speculation Thread (NO talk about potential bans NOR Aegislash)

Which is your favorite?

  • Beedrill

    Votes: 255 26.5%
  • Pidgeot

    Votes: 119 12.3%
  • Slowbro

    Votes: 86 8.9%
  • Steelix

    Votes: 58 6.0%
  • Sceptile

    Votes: 140 14.5%
  • Swampert

    Votes: 120 12.4%
  • Sableye

    Votes: 62 6.4%
  • Sharpedo

    Votes: 57 5.9%
  • Camerupt

    Votes: 57 5.9%
  • Altaria

    Votes: 144 14.9%
  • Glalie

    Votes: 79 8.2%
  • Salamence

    Votes: 198 20.5%
  • Metagross

    Votes: 164 17.0%
  • Latias

    Votes: 50 5.2%
  • Latios

    Votes: 54 5.6%
  • Loppuny

    Votes: 125 13.0%
  • Gallade

    Votes: 148 15.4%
  • Audino

    Votes: 30 3.1%
  • Diancie

    Votes: 74 7.7%

  • Total voters
    964
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I don't quite know how legitimate this is but the demo got hacked and the mega pokemons' stats are apparently leaked. Thanks for ProjectPokemon ofc.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2jd8j3/
Source: http://pastebin.com/eKAmvkQn

  1. Base Stats for New Megas
  2. No surprising/unknown abilities, revealed already; all the same (1/2/hidden).
  3. Hoopa still has Magician. http://i.imgur.com/GfY2tVV.png
  4. Index: 799 - Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 Type: Water/Ground Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  5. Index: 800 - Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 Type: Grass/Dragon Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  6. Index: 801 - Sableye-M Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 Type: Dark/Ghost Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  7. Index: 802 - Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 Type: Dragon/Fairy Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  8. Index: 803 - Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 Type: Psychic/Fighting Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  9. Index: 804 - Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 Type: Normal/Fairy Catchrate: 255 Stage: 2
  10. Index: 805 - Sharpedo Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 Type: Water/Dark Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  11. Index: 807 - Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 Type: Steel/Ground Catchrate: 25 Stage: 2
  12. Index: 808 - Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121 Type: Normal/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  13. Index: 809 - Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 Type: Ice/Ice Catchrate: 75 Stage: 2
  14. Index: 810 - Diancie-M Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110 Type: Rock/Fairy Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  15. Index: 811 - Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 Type: Steel/Psychic Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  16. Index: 812 - Kyogre-P Stats: 100/150/90/180/160/90 Type: Water/Water Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  17. Index: 813 - Groudon-P Stats: 100/180/160/150/90/90 Type: Ground/Fire Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  18. Index: 814 - Rayquaza-M Stats: 105/180/100/180/100/115 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  19. 815-820 are Cosplay Pikachu forms
  20. Index: 821 - Hoopa-M Stats: 80/160/60/170/130/80 Type: Psychic/Dark Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  21. Index: 822 - Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 Type: Fire/Ground Catchrate: 150 Stage: 2
  22. Index: 823 - Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 Type: Normal/Fighting Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  23. Index: 824 - Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  24. Index: 825 - Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 Type: Bug/Poison Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3

If that is true, all of them look amazing. However, few stand out, such as Metagross, Beedrill, Gallade, etc.
But most importantly, Mega Salamence, if that is indeed true, is going to rip the entire OU into pieces.
Hell, it's going to be the most threatening sweeper we've seen in OU imho.
 
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rolf Beedrill might actually make OU after all. Did not think they would give it +70 Speed, letting it outspeed the entire OU metagame and threaten all kinds of stuff with Adaptability U-Turn. Will make things very interesting indeed.

MDiancie actually looks very solid now, really huge offenses will help it as well as great speed. 110 base Speed makes Keldeo, Terrakion and Latios sad.

MAltaria is more or less as good as expected, unfortunately MHera's Rock blast still 2HKOs it unless it runs full phys def which is a shame, but does have very wall-rounded stats and the big boost in Defense it wanted. Could've focused more on bulk and less on offense I guess, but oh well, it's still probably going to be very good.

MMence is.. not nearly as ridiculously hard-hitting as we feared in all honesty, base 145 Atk not being that great. However, in return it got a huge boost in defense and some more SpD as well, which makes it much easier for it to get a DD or two off and sweep, as well as harder to revenge kill. By all accounts, Bulky DD will be its best set, enabling to setup over a ton of stuff. It does have a great speed tier and great mixed stats so MixMence will be very good too, don't see Offensive DD being the dominant set though. I still think it's broken, but perhaps not as blatantly as we thought.

Gallade's stat distribution is a lot better than I expected, 110 Speed will stop it from being eclipsed by MMedi, and 165 Atk is a lot, will definitely be pretty decent in OU.

MSableye looks pretty good. A lot bulkier than I thought it would be especially on the special side (ovrral bulk greater than MMawile just to give you an idea), so I'm definitely happy with these stats.

MLopunny is surprisingly fast and powerful, its offensive stats are on the same level as MManectric for instance, so it'll definitely be a bigger threat than I expected.

Not to much else to say about the rest of these stats, they mostly looks pretty much as expected. I hope this isn't a hoax, because I really like this list overall.
 
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I don't quite know how legitimate this is but the demo got hacked and the mega pokemons' stats are apparently leaked.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2jd8j3/
Source: http://pastebin.com/eKAmvkQn

  1. Base Stats for New Megas
  2. No surprising/unknown abilities, revealed already; all the same (1/2/hidden).
  3. Hoopa still has Magician. http://i.imgur.com/GfY2tVV.png
  4. Index: 799 - Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 Type: Water/Ground Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  5. Index: 800 - Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 Type: Grass/Dragon Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  6. Index: 801 - Sableye-M Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 Type: Dark/Ghost Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  7. Index: 802 - Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 Type: Dragon/Fairy Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  8. Index: 803 - Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 Type: Psychic/Fighting Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  9. Index: 804 - Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 Type: Normal/Fairy Catchrate: 255 Stage: 2
  10. Index: 805 - Sharpedo Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 Type: Water/Dark Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  11. Index: 807 - Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 Type: Steel/Ground Catchrate: 25 Stage: 2
  12. Index: 808 - Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121 Type: Normal/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  13. Index: 809 - Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 Type: Ice/Ice Catchrate: 75 Stage: 2
  14. Index: 810 - Diancie-M Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110 Type: Rock/Fairy Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  15. Index: 811 - Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 Type: Steel/Psychic Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  16. Index: 812 - Kyogre-P Stats: 100/150/90/180/160/90 Type: Water/Water Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  17. Index: 813 - Groudon-P Stats: 100/180/160/150/90/90 Type: Ground/Fire Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  18. Index: 814 - Rayquaza-M Stats: 105/180/100/180/100/115 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  19. 815-820 are Cosplay Pikachu forms
  20. Index: 821 - Hoopa-M Stats: 80/160/60/170/130/80 Type: Psychic/Dark Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  21. Index: 822 - Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 Type: Fire/Ground Catchrate: 150 Stage: 2
  22. Index: 823 - Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 Type: Normal/Fighting Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  23. Index: 824 - Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  24. Index: 825 - Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 Type: Bug/Poison Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3

If that is true, all of them look amazing. However, few stand out, such as Metagross, Beedrill, Gallade, etc.
But most importantly, Mega Salamence, if that is indeed true, is going to rip the entire OU into pieces.
Hell, it's going to be the most threatening sweeper we've seen in OU imho.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxsim4rKzh1qmutyeo1_500.jpg

I personally think it's a troll (not you, the source), but I guess it'd be fun to theorymon these stats.
 
The question is if it's still ban worthy after only a 10 bst increase into atk... 120 speed though...
If that's true mega lop and mega drill look amazing. Metagross looks frickin scary with hone claws as a late game sweeper/cleaner.
Can't say I would be disappointed with any of them except hoopa and audino with their horrible abilities/typing (fairy/normal isn't that bad but...).
Also no m-volcanion so wah.

EDIT: I could believe the stats, but not necessarily believe that the data for all these mons was input into the demo, but I don't know much about separating a demo from a main build so...
 
Slowbro's been added.

  1. Index: 799 - Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 Type: Water/Ground Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  2. Index: 800 - Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 Type: Grass/Dragon Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  3. Index: 801 - Sableye-M Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 Type: Dark/Ghost Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  4. Index: 802 - Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 Type: Dragon/Fairy Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  5. Index: 803 - Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 Type: Psychic/Fighting Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  6. Index: 804 - Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 Type: Normal/Fairy Catchrate: 255 Stage: 2
  7. Index: 805 - Sharpedo-M Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 Type: Water/Dark Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  8. Index: 806 - Slowbro-M Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30 Type: Water/Psychic Catchrate: 75 Stage: 2
  9. Index: 807 - Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 Type: Steel/Ground Catchrate: 25 Stage: 2
  10. Index: 808 - Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121 Type: Normal/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  11. Index: 809 - Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 Type: Ice/Ice Catchrate: 75 Stage: 2
  12. Index: 810 - Diancie-M Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110 Type: Rock/Fairy Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  13. Index: 811 - Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 Type: Steel/Psychic Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  14. Index: 812 - Kyogre-P Stats: 100/150/90/180/160/90 Type: Water/Water Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  15. Index: 813 - Groudon-P Stats: 100/180/160/150/90/90 Type: Ground/Fire Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  16. Index: 814 - Rayquaza-M Stats: 105/180/100/180/100/115 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  17. 815-820 are Cosplay Pikachu forms
  18. Index: 821 - Hoopa-M Stats: 80/160/60/170/130/80 Type: Psychic/Dark Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  19. Index: 822 - Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 Type: Fire/Ground Catchrate: 150 Stage: 2
  20. Index: 823 - Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 Type: Normal/Fighting Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  21. Index: 824 - Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  22. Index: 825 - Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 Type: Bug/Poison Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
Slowbro is just as awful as I imagined.
 

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Yet it goes to a Psychic/Dark instead of Psychic/Ghost....that just doesn't make sense to me
It might have a worse typing than before, even if it becomes neutral to Knock Off. It has no resists, just an immunity to Psychic.

Slowbro's been added.

  1. Index: 799 - Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 Type: Water/Ground Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  2. Index: 800 - Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 Type: Grass/Dragon Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  3. Index: 801 - Sableye-M Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 Type: Dark/Ghost Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  4. Index: 802 - Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 Type: Dragon/Fairy Catchrate: 45 Stage: 2
  5. Index: 803 - Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 Type: Psychic/Fighting Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  6. Index: 804 - Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 Type: Normal/Fairy Catchrate: 255 Stage: 2
  7. Index: 805 - Sharpedo-M Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 Type: Water/Dark Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  8. Index: 806 - Slowbro-M Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30 Type: Water/Psychic Catchrate: 75 Stage: 2
  9. Index: 807 - Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 Type: Steel/Ground Catchrate: 25 Stage: 2
  10. Index: 808 - Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121 Type: Normal/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  11. Index: 809 - Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 Type: Ice/Ice Catchrate: 75 Stage: 2
  12. Index: 810 - Diancie-M Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110 Type: Rock/Fairy Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  13. Index: 811 - Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 Type: Steel/Psychic Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  14. Index: 812 - Kyogre-P Stats: 100/150/90/180/160/90 Type: Water/Water Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  15. Index: 813 - Groudon-P Stats: 100/180/160/150/90/90 Type: Ground/Fire Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  16. Index: 814 - Rayquaza-M Stats: 105/180/100/180/100/115 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  17. 815-820 are Cosplay Pikachu forms
  18. Index: 821 - Hoopa-M Stats: 80/160/60/170/130/80 Type: Psychic/Dark Catchrate: 3 Stage: 3
  19. Index: 822 - Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 Type: Fire/Ground Catchrate: 150 Stage: 2
  20. Index: 823 - Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 Type: Normal/Fighting Catchrate: 60 Stage: 2
  21. Index: 824 - Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
  22. Index: 825 - Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 Type: Bug/Poison Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
Slowbro is just as awful as I imagined.
Can we just quickban Slowbroite? It's going to be impossible to break after 1 CM boost.
 
rolf Beedrill might actually make OU after all. Did not think they would give it +70 Speed, will make things very interesting indeed.

MDiancie actually looks very solid now, really huge offenses will help it as well as great speed.

MAltaria is about as good as expected, unfortunately MHera's Rock blast still 2HKOs it unless it runs full phys def which is a shame, but does have very wall-rounded stats and the big boost in Defense it wanted.

MMence is.. not nearly as ridiculously strong as we feared in all honesty, base 145 Atk not being that great. By all accounts, Bulky DD will be its best set, enabling to setup over a ton of stuff. It does have a great speed tier and great mixed stats so MixMence will be very good too, don't see Offensive DD being the dominant set though. I still think it's broken, but perhaps not as blatantly as we thought.

Gallade's stat distribution is a lot better than I thought, 110 Speed will stop it from being eclipsed by MMedi, and 165 SpA is a lot, will definitely be pretty decent in OU.

MSableye looks good, really good. Much bulkier than I thought it would be especially on the special side (ovrral bulk greater than MMawile just to give you an idea), so I'm definitely happy with these stats.
165 Atk**

Anyways, Mega Gallade is looking good. 110 Speed is definitely good enough to outspeed a lot of things and get hits off. It also has decent Sp.Def, so Bulk Up Gallade could be cool.

Just as you said, Mega Mence doesn't seem threatening as much as we thought. But 120 Speed is ridiculous. Greninja, Mega-Sceptile, Mega Man, Scarf Lando all outspeed it if it doesn't get a DD up. The only way I see it being broken is the Mixed Set**

edit; holy fucking mother of god. beedril has 150 atk and 145 speed, that's fucking insane. that shit is going to hit hard. 150 atk, adaptability boosted u-turn, x-scissor, fell stinger, poison jab are going to hit extremely hard. not to mention, it gets drill run, so heatran doesn't counter it. skarm and some other things im too lazy to think do.
 
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I thought megas were limited to a +100 points boost? Did they change that or was I just mistaken? Because beedrill got 70 in speed and 60 in attack if that's correct...

Also mega slowbro what the fuck, base 180 def and 130 spatk?! Dear lord, best calm mind user in the game hands down. That mofo is going to be MUCH better than I thought.
 
Dammit GF, stop making ugly water types that are impossible to kill... Mega CroBro op pls ban. Mega Mence looks like a breath of fresh air to face over that thing.

I thought the P-Legends would get at least 190 ATK/SATK, so that's disappointing. Groudon still looks worth it though.
 
I thought megas were limited to a +100 points boost? Did they change that or was I just mistaken? Because beedrill got 70 in speed and 60 in attack if that's correct...

Also mega slowbro what the fuck, base 180 def and 130 spatk?! Dear lord, best calm mind user in the game hands down. That mofo is going to be MUCH better than I thought.
they lowered Beedrill's SpA by 30, resulting in a net 100
 

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I thought megas were limited to a +100 points boost? Did they change that or was I just mistaken? Because beedrill got 70 in speed and 60 in attack if that's correct...

Also mega slowbro what the fuck, base 180 def and 130 spatk?! Dear lord, best calm mind user in the game hands down. That mofo is going to be MUCH better than I thought.
They took points from its Special Attack stat; it was 45 before and 15 as a Mega.

EDIT: Ninja'd.
 
I thought megas were limited to a +100 points boost? Did they change that or was I just mistaken? Because beedrill got 70 in speed and 60 in attack if that's correct...

Also mega slowbro what the fuck, base 180 def and 130 spatk?! Dear lord, best calm mind user in the game hands down. That mofo is going to be MUCH better than I thought.
They min-maxed the hell out of Beedrill.

Beedrill: 65 HP/90 Attack/40 Defense/45 Special Attack/80 Special Defense/75 Speed
M-Beedrill: 65 HP/150 Attack/40 Defense/15 Special Attack/80 Special Defense/145 Speed

They took 30 out of its Special Attack so they could add 60 points to its Attack and 70 to its Speed.
 
"815-820 are Cosplay Pikachu forms"
Kind-of unrelated, does Cosplay Pikachu change type or stats? OU relevant because Light Ball with Volt Tackle, Agility and Icicle Crash will hopefully be usable.
 
I don't quite know how legitimate this is but the demo got hacked and the mega pokemons' stats are apparently leaked. Thanks for ProjectPokemon ofc.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2jd8j3/
Source: http://pastebin.com/eKAmvkQn

  1. Index: 824 - Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying Catchrate: 45 Stage: 3
-1 252 Atk Garchomp Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Salamence: 210-248 (63.4 - 74.9%)

Literally sets up on Garchomp Outrage after Stealth Rocks. GG OU.
 
I hope we can all have enough sense to quick ban some of this stuff **cough cough** Mega Salamence **cough** Mega Slowbro **cough cough**. I don't want to waste 2 months suspecting stuff we know will be banned. Instead, have it the other way, and try suspecting those mons in.

Anyway, I'm SUPER excited for Mega Beedrill. I've always like voltturn... and this is quite the gift. Will work well synergisticly with electric types considering how weak it is to birds. It got just (more than?) what it needed: 150 attack and 145 speed which is (more than) enough to outspeed gren. And my favorite part is... it has its flaws.

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 240-283 (88.5 - 104.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

lel that 65/40 defense. Yeah, this will be an interesting pokemon indeed.
 
-1 252 Atk Garchomp Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Salamence: 210-248 (63.4 - 74.9%)

Literally sets up on Garchomp Outrage after Stealth Rocks. GG OU.
Game over man...Game over...
Im kinda irked at diancie 110 base speed. I went trough a lot of hardwork to get a rash one and now i feel like Naive CM is the one thas gonna be useful due to the speed ties.
 
-1 252 Atk Garchomp Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Salamence: 210-248 (63.4 - 74.9%)

Literally sets up on Garchomp Outrage after Stealth Rocks. GG OU.
you ruined my dreams of mega sal in OU. welp. :/ the shit is broken af with that kind of defense. smh
Also, Mega Gross only got 10 extra attack but 40 points in speed.



40 FRIGGIN POINTS?!
tough claws kinda makes up for the minor atk boost
 
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