Voted yes. Although a somewhat conditional yes. IMO the inability to RNG legendaries in ORAS is causing a big waste of time in the breeding community. Simply put, I'd rather be working on some projects than SRing legendaries, which I am made to battle. I say this in regards only to legendaries, events etc which via a lack of RNG have become a drain on time. However, imo, if it's breedable then people are just being lazy if they only obtain those pokes from giveaways. Nothing wrong with a give away, but people who don't make an effort to learn the trade don't deserve them.
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Not interested in the giveaway, but I'd like to throw my two cents into this.
I don't think many people voting here actually understand what non-redis means. Non-redis only means that if you are traded a Pokemon, you are only allowed to keep it in your personal collection, and cannot spread it around.
Many posters here (especially new members) have interpreted this as Not For Trade, a different policy that means the user is not giving it away to everyone. You're getting a lot of yes votes simply because the new members who are participating don't understand.
I voted no. I used to be like you, and had all my legends and shinies full-redis. I thought I was helping the community by making my stuff more widely available, but actually I was spitting in the face of other members who worked hard for the stuff they have in their threads, and ruining the trade value of their Pokemon. By doing this giveaway, you're essentially saying "hey, I'm going to make sure no one ever wants to trade with someone who takes the time to soft reset a pokemon like mine."
I get that you think you're being noble by doing this. To many newer members, I'm sure this is a blessing. That's great. But I hope that you don't think that by making everything fully redistributable, you'll make this a better community.
I'm not saying this because I'm sour because I have a Rayquaza similar to yours. I don't really trade here much anymore, so I'm not looking to make a bunch of trades with it. I'm saying this because you're now taking away the incentive for people to do actual work to obtain their Pokemon.
I don't think many people voting here actually understand what non-redis means. Non-redis only means that if you are traded a Pokemon, you are only allowed to keep it in your personal collection, and cannot spread it around.
Many posters here (especially new members) have interpreted this as Not For Trade, a different policy that means the user is not giving it away to everyone. You're getting a lot of yes votes simply because the new members who are participating don't understand.
I voted no. I used to be like you, and had all my legends and shinies full-redis. I thought I was helping the community by making my stuff more widely available, but actually I was spitting in the face of other members who worked hard for the stuff they have in their threads, and ruining the trade value of their Pokemon. By doing this giveaway, you're essentially saying "hey, I'm going to make sure no one ever wants to trade with someone who takes the time to soft reset a pokemon like mine."
I get that you think you're being noble by doing this. To many newer members, I'm sure this is a blessing. That's great. But I hope that you don't think that by making everything fully redistributable, you'll make this a better community.
I'm not saying this because I'm sour because I have a Rayquaza similar to yours. I don't really trade here much anymore, so I'm not looking to make a bunch of trades with it. I'm saying this because you're now taking away the incentive for people to do actual work to obtain their Pokemon.
I said yes because even with you saying you cant trade this with mentioning me or someone elts is just silly IMO
Friend code:0061-0809-4165 trainer name:Palkia
Friend code:0061-0809-4165 trainer name:Palkia
Reposting this on request
My stance on this is a resounding yes
We should really be moving past the era where people keep certain competitive things to themselves and make most use of WiFi's power to make as many resources available as possible. People have told me that they stray away from the likes of Battle Spot and VGC due to the difficulty of breeding and resetting, and thus slowing down the learning process because they don't get to test as many things. This should not be the case - everyone should feel empowered to take on the official ladders and competition in the best form possible to accelerate understanding and the level of competition.
Back when RNGing was discovered and when I brought a glimpse of it to Smogon, I was hesitant to reveal more than just the stuff I got from doing it. The implications were similar to the question posed in this thread - does the mechanic simply curbstomp everyone who worked to reset or breed for their Pokemon? Turns out that didn't even become an issue - with the help of many others who researched deep into the mechanic and into things I have very little understanding of, everybody got their shot at getting their perfect Pokemon, and honestly nobody's really bothered by it (except gamefreak I guess but they did make breeding/resetting so much easier this gen as a result of the increased standards brought upon by RNGing).
So what if certain trade threads are getting stomped by the increase in redistribution? Honestly I don't really care - the #1 goal of Pokemon is to win battles and I want as many resources available to accommodate for it. I don't want to have to look for hours for a perfect thundurus and significantly delay my testing/building process only because this some x guy puts it in his trophy case and demands a bajillion things to get it (version exclusivity sucks). And believe it or not there are some formats that are better played ingame than on sims.
It also just really helps newer players to get into the game.
(There could be long term downsides to this but I'd rather not get into that and it probably wont happen anyways. One potential issue is that if everyone's handing out everything then eventually nobody will have the incentive to do so because they won't really get anything in return. But I'm sure we'll either just get new generations of people or people who are just nice enough. There are so many Pokemon in this game and not everyone will actually have everything).
tl;dr: maximize battling competition and reduce the hurdles to get there.
My stance on this is a resounding yes
We should really be moving past the era where people keep certain competitive things to themselves and make most use of WiFi's power to make as many resources available as possible. People have told me that they stray away from the likes of Battle Spot and VGC due to the difficulty of breeding and resetting, and thus slowing down the learning process because they don't get to test as many things. This should not be the case - everyone should feel empowered to take on the official ladders and competition in the best form possible to accelerate understanding and the level of competition.
Back when RNGing was discovered and when I brought a glimpse of it to Smogon, I was hesitant to reveal more than just the stuff I got from doing it. The implications were similar to the question posed in this thread - does the mechanic simply curbstomp everyone who worked to reset or breed for their Pokemon? Turns out that didn't even become an issue - with the help of many others who researched deep into the mechanic and into things I have very little understanding of, everybody got their shot at getting their perfect Pokemon, and honestly nobody's really bothered by it (except gamefreak I guess but they did make breeding/resetting so much easier this gen as a result of the increased standards brought upon by RNGing).
So what if certain trade threads are getting stomped by the increase in redistribution? Honestly I don't really care - the #1 goal of Pokemon is to win battles and I want as many resources available to accommodate for it. I don't want to have to look for hours for a perfect thundurus and significantly delay my testing/building process only because this some x guy puts it in his trophy case and demands a bajillion things to get it (version exclusivity sucks). And believe it or not there are some formats that are better played ingame than on sims.
It also just really helps newer players to get into the game.
(There could be long term downsides to this but I'd rather not get into that and it probably wont happen anyways. One potential issue is that if everyone's handing out everything then eventually nobody will have the incentive to do so because they won't really get anything in return. But I'm sure we'll either just get new generations of people or people who are just nice enough. There are so many Pokemon in this game and not everyone will actually have everything).
tl;dr: maximize battling competition and reduce the hurdles to get there.
I am adding everyone now!
Adding you now.
Fair enough, adding you.
Thanks, adding you.
I can respect that, adding you too.
Adding you.
Adding you.
Adding you.
I'm sorry, I'll be leaving for Christmas. This giveaway is making a few people angry, so I'm just trading the first 40 people that come online and get one. When stock runs out, I probably wont be doing this again for a while.
Adding you.
Adding you.
Adding you.
A very convincing argument, but I really never meant to spit in the faces of other users. I just wanted to share my Pokémon with everyone, so they can diversify a saturated market with new innovative resets, instead of having everyone reset the first legend they see (Rayquaza). Also, I usually miss events and re-distributables have been there to fill a lot of gaps in my collection, so I thought Smogon could use a good Re-distributable Diancie. Mega Diancie is a whole new Pokémon and it's kind of my Christmas gift to Smogon. Really didn't think it would anger so many people. Sorry.
Adding you.
Thanks Buckert, hope you're enjoying Diancie. You can have a Rayquaza too if you want.
Adding you.. but wait, what did you just say?
Nice. Adding you too.
Seems as though you missed me, good sir?
I also wasn't among the list of replies, but my FC was added. I'll be online for the next hour or so, but it seems you just went offline. err nevermind
Sorry I missed your post, that was the biggest multi-quote in a long time.
Sorry I missed your post; that was the biggest multi-quote in a long time.
Double checked and I have you added, just must have missed the post; I read all of them, but multi-quoting more than one page is nuts; lol.
Online now. Invite when ready.
Invite when ready.
Just went offline to make sure I had everyone's codes, but I do, so just invite when ready. There are only 40 of these in total, so you all are actually racing each other to them. I probably should have mentioned that earlier. Hehe.
Enjoy your prizes. Nice essay. :P
Yeah, I'm probably late on this (probably have missed any kind of cut-off) but 5129-1372-8989. Currently on Omega Ruby.
Voted yes on the poll purely because it gets very frustrating when you've joined the party late and miss out on Pokémon just because you weren't in the exact place at the right time to be there. Really irritating.
Voted yes on the poll purely because it gets very frustrating when you've joined the party late and miss out on Pokémon just because you weren't in the exact place at the right time to be there. Really irritating.
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Apologies for being a bugger, but my invites either seem not to go through or the ones that do end up disconnected. I'm wondering if this is a problem on my end or I'm doing something incorrectly.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Like I said it's first come first serve, those who follow all the rules and come online get served first, while those who delay might miss out all together. I'll add you now. ;)
Fair enough sir, I'd like to apologize if you miss out on some dough because of this giveaway. Let me know if there's anything I can ever get you old friend.
You're welcome.
You must be Princess. Sorry, if you read the rules of the giveaway, you must have omega ruby or alpha sapphire to participate in the giveaway. Rayquaza knows Dragon Ascent and it's PP Maxed, and I don't want copies floating around with out it. Also, this helps sponsor Nintendo. I bet a video game store near you isn't closed yet, you could probably get a copy and come back.
Oh, shoot! I have Alpha; this is all my fault. I'll load the cartidge and return in a few >n<;
EEEEEEKKKK! Thank you!!
However, I sorely regret not being able to trade from Y, which is my main file. I entered panic mode just now and rushed to catch some junk, but I was actually planning to give you some 6IV critters I didn't need. I know you're busy, but if you're interested in that at all, I'm more than willing to hop back onto Y so you can return my useless things.
Happy holidays, and massive, massive apologies for all of my silliness today.
However, I sorely regret not being able to trade from Y, which is my main file. I entered panic mode just now and rushed to catch some junk, but I was actually planning to give you some 6IV critters I didn't need. I know you're busy, but if you're interested in that at all, I'm more than willing to hop back onto Y so you can return my useless things.
Happy holidays, and massive, massive apologies for all of my silliness today.
Merry Christmas.
No worries, I have everything I need to enjoy this game. Enjoy the legends.EEEEEEKKKK! Thank you!!
However, I sorely regret not being able to trade from Y, which is my main file. I entered panic mode just now and rushed to catch some junk, but I was actually planning to give you some 6IV critters I didn't need. I know you're busy, but if you're interested in that at all, I'm more than willing to hop back onto Y so you can return my useless things.
Happy holidays, and massive, massive apologies for all of my silliness today.
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