Coil will lower all its stats because of Contrary.I'd give a mixed Coil set a mention at the bottom of OO. The accuracy boost to Leaf Storm is nice and Serp has access to Outrage (move tutor), Aqua Tail (which also benefits from accuracy boost, hits Heatran) and Knock Off to take advantage of the attack boost, but it suffers the same problems as Mixed Hone Claws Ludicolo (reliant on a boost to have offensive presence on the physical side).
Also small knitpick, if a Pokemon has the same Def/SpD stats its best to put the 4 EVs into SpD as opposed to def to give offensive P2 (and PZ I guess except not really cause its bad) to get an attack boost instead of an SpA boost.
Yes I will add Dugtrio to the list of teammates. Thanks for pointing that out.Could Dugtrio be mentioned as a partner for the first set? You pack HP Fire to deal with Ferrothorn anyways, so even though Magnezone is a better overall pokemon, some teams might prefer Dugtrio for its ability to consistently trap + KO Heatran (revenge kill, slow U-Turn from Scizor, etc). :)
Done, thanks!Hp Grounds should get a mention under set details for its ability to easily get past Heatran. AV should be removed, Serperior isn't a pivot. Dual Screens is better suited to a support teammates such as Klefki or Azelf. Elaborate a bit more on checks and counters in regards to the hows such as Ferrothorn beats HP Ground variants and Heatran beats HP Fire variants. Specify which flying types cause not all of them are sure fire checks and counters, such as Zapdos. There's a lot more team options such as Landorus-T, Gengar, Azumarill, general SD and DDance sweepers such as Char-X and SD Gliscor so beef up team options. The movepool might be limited but it doesn't change the fact that it's still effective with those limited options so I don't see how this is a flaw that should be displayed in the overview section. Put Glare under OO and implement any QC's suggestions and changes such as Ben Gay's 1/3. Implement all of this along with some thorough detail and you can consider it QC 2/3 on my end.
Isn't that the exact same set Halcyon. has? Also its been mentioned that Glare is bad.Serperior
Abitily:Contrary
Nature:Timid
252 SpA/4 SpD/252 Spe
"Contrary"
-Leaf Storm
-Giga Drain/Hidden Power Fire
-Dragon Pulse/Hidden Power Fire
-Substitute/Glare/Knock Off
Note: Combined all the opinions of people
Yea but I just added Leftovers XD and Glare is not that bad since it paralyes the opponent and paralyes cuts the opponents speed unless the opponent has a Talonflame with Gale Wings or something elseIsn't that the exact same set Halcyon. has? Also its been mentioned that Glare is bad.
LO is needed, glare is pretty bad regardless.ben gay said:unfortunately, serperior really does need the extra power granted by life orb otherwise it won't be able to clean efficiently :( . and why is glare slashed as filler lol. seems pretty useless to me, i'd replace it with taunt so that it can stallbreak better. mention knock off getting rid of chansey's eviolite too and get rid of the bit with hp ground zone, there are better ways to lure tran like eq lati and it isn't in our best interest to pair gimmicks with it :x . you have 29 atk ivs instead of hp so fix that too. on another note, i would suggest you make a secondary set for a subseed variant of serperior. something like substitute/leaf storm/leech seed/hp fire looks like it would have merit. avoids status, revenge killing, sucker punches, can stall mons out like chansey, tran, and unaware clef via seed, good recovery and lets it safely boost up by spamming leaf storm. go a bit more in-depth on team options and narrow down checks and counters so that it fits together and is nice and compact. once you do all these 1/3 n_n
Yea I guess ur right but the physical set can be for Servine in the NU tierGlare is alright. I'll be giving it a mention in either the OO section or the moves section. However, Swords Dance/Coil is really bad and I will absolutely not add that under any circumstances. Unless Game Freak descides to magically give Serperior Superpower, no one should ever use a physical set (actually even then its movepool is terribad for physical attacking lol).
Serperior has been banned from all the lower tiers and a Physical set would probably be bad anyway.Yea I guess ur right but the physical set can be for Servine in the NU tier
They are not good teammates at all though, i mean thats pretty situationnal because metagross can also have check like victini/heatran scarf/Skarmory/Scizor or revenge killer like Bisharp/Scarf Ttar that can make it hard for Serperior, i don't think it will be a good idea to mention them.Could you mention that Mega Metagross and Tyranitar are good teammates? Mega Metagross destroys many things that give Serperior trouble, like Mega Altaria, and Serperior kills many Metagross checks/counters, like Mega Slowbro. Tyranitar handles Birdspam and can trap Gengar while serperior kills hippowdon
Sorry buddy, my computer has been on the fritz the last week so I haven't been on at all, but I'll try to write it up on my phone either tonight or tomorrow.Halcyon. do you mind finishing writing this up so someone can give the final check? if not an update when would be much obliged.