But you need Leppa Berry to restore your own PP. You'd have to get the opponent to co-operate by repeatedly Flinging Leppa Berries.
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At first i was kinda skeptical about encore, but after testing i have to say encore is friggin amazing on Groudon, thanks a bunch for the suggestion motherlove it has been winning me lots of battles.
Here's a funny replay a saved using encore Pdon:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/balancedhackmons-206045935
Does anyone have a good mega gyarados set with gyaradosite? I was hoping for a moveset that benefits from both ablities. Note, moveset must have pursuit for sheddy.
Ocean Rage (Gyarados-Mega) @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Pursuit
- Sacred Fire
- King's Shield
- Whirlwind
Sometimes I use Prankster with Recover / Destiny Bond / Pursuit / Sucker Punch or filler, which I stole from Kl4ng. It works pretty well.
Also tagging CactusCacti if he wants to post that really cool Unaware one
So now that Hacking is openly available I decided to try a couple things out. You can't mega evolve mega pokes.
That's annoying... what about our previous proof though?
You are probably reffering to something i am unaware of, but in BH you can certainly mega evolve mega pokes.
Here's a battle i had a couple of minutes ago:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/balancedhackmons-206287451
Edit: iudshoer is my alt, if you wanted to know.
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Do you have proof? Like, a video or something?
Meant on cartridge.
If that proves to be true, there's a lot of explaining that needs to be done, unless that previous video wasn't taken outside the wild.
Just felt like posting this battle to show how easy it is to beat assistdon cancer without dedicated teams and checks:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/balancedhackmons-206330537
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/balancedhackmons-206330537
What's better than imposter luring? An imposter lure that can also punch holes in everything else, while also crippling Shedinja.
Groudon-Primal @ Choice Band
Ability: Tinted Lens
Adamant Nature
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
- Switcheroo
- V-Create
- Thousand Arrows
- Crabhammer
As all Offensive Pokemon lure Imposters, you can net yourself a KO with Banded Crabhammer. Tinted Lens Band V-Create hits insanely hard, KOing Kyogre-Primal (And 2HKOing Imposter Chansey). The Speed EVs are to outrun Kyogre-Primal in specfic.
Switcheroo cripples Shedinja or any other sole Status users. But always be sure to run a Sturdinja alongside so you don't get revenge-sweeped.
As for pure Imposter Proof mons, the standard PH Kyogre or Adrian's variant are very good.
Groudon-Primal @ Choice Band
Ability: Tinted Lens
Adamant Nature
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
- Switcheroo
- V-Create
- Thousand Arrows
- Crabhammer
As all Offensive Pokemon lure Imposters, you can net yourself a KO with Banded Crabhammer. Tinted Lens Band V-Create hits insanely hard, KOing Kyogre-Primal (And 2HKOing Imposter Chansey). The Speed EVs are to outrun Kyogre-Primal in specfic.
Switcheroo cripples Shedinja or any other sole Status users. But always be sure to run a Sturdinja alongside so you don't get revenge-sweeped.
As for pure Imposter Proof mons, the standard PH Kyogre or Adrian's variant are very good.
Pikachuun
the entire waruda machine
You're still weak to banded assistdon, which has a large chance to 2HKO Fur Coat Chansey. All of those weren't banded. Mold Breaker Assistdon, while rare, is also something that eats Fur Coat Chansey alive. Plus, not everyone will be running Fur Coat Chansey.
This set doesnt really cripple shedinja too badly as all it usuall does is baton pass out anyway. And Pdon doesnt like losing its choice band since wallbreaking is significantly harder. This set is ok. 6/10.What's better than imposter luring? An imposter lure that can also punch holes in everything else, while also crippling Shedinja.
Groudon-Primal @ Choice Band
Ability: Tinted Lens
Adamant Nature
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
- Switcheroo
- V-Create
- Thousand Arrows
- Crabhammer
As all Offensive Pokemon lure Imposters, you can net yourself a KO with Banded Crabhammer. Tinted Lens Band V-Create hits insanely hard, KOing Kyogre-Primal (And 2HKOing Imposter Chansey). The Speed EVs are to outrun Kyogre-Primal in specfic.
Switcheroo cripples Shedinja or any other sole Status users. But always be sure to run a Sturdinja alongside so you don't get revenge-sweeped.
As for pure Imposter Proof mons, the standard PH Kyogre or Adrian's variant are very good.
Also, it might only be me, but i would never switch imposter chansey into Pdon because TA from any set is bound to do serious damage, especially banded sets which are quite common. The threat of TA is too great to switch in.
Anyway guys, I have an imposter Chansey set, but with a twist:
Chansey @ Lucky Punch
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / nothing else matters, really
Nature: who cares
-filler
-fillet
-filler
-filler
When Chansey holds lucky punch, her crit rate is increased to a whopping 50% allowing Chansey to easily defeat Quiver Dance PH primal Kyogre, break past things like fur coat (and eviolite i think, could be wrong) and generally make Chansey more powerful.
What do you guys think? This imposter Chansey sacrifices bulk for offensive prowess.
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252+ Atk Choice Band Primal Groudon Thousand Arrows vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Fur Coat Chansey: 205-242 (31.9 - 37.6%) -- 92.4% chance to 3HKO
The fuck are you on about?
It's possible it might have changed in ORAS. The previous video was X/Y.
Also, how is hacking openly available? Like I mean, what method? I wanna test some things if I can.
This is a good set, but in order to do either of the things you mentioned (beating Chansey and beating Shedinja) you have to predict a switch, which should be easy with Shedinja but not necessarily with Chansey. People don't switch Imposters into Primal Groudon unless they don't have another wall for it, like Fur Coat Giratina. Also, since this set is Banded, you run the risk of losing a speed tie to Chansey if it gets a free switch.
(I also feel the need to mention, as we have before in this thread, that it's not usually a good idea to have something on your team only walled by Shedinja.)
Pikachuun
the entire waruda machine
Welp this is what happens when you assume they aren't banded
My point being is that not everyone will carry a Fur Coat Chansey. Besides, what would happen if they tricked you their Choice Band, or if they're Mold Breaker? That pretty much eliminates the usefulness of said Fur Coat chansey, as it needs Eviolite in order to reliably tank banded hits, and without Fur Coat, well... This is discounting the possibility that Groudon-P runs V-create over Arrows (although Arrows are far more common due to no immunities)
What is your previous proof?
Sorry for double posting but I just tried it on my game with mega gyarados yesterday and it didn't even give me the option to mega.
I don't know, something where we saw Mega Charizard Y mega evolve into Mega Charizard Y iirc.
edit: nvm, I just remember Rumors talking about it, it was someone else
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Here is the video I was referring to: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/balanced-hackmons.3489849/page-68#post-5633681
Just in case y'all think I might have mega'd him already here's a pic of him as a mega in the pc with my other hackmons
http://m.imgur.com/q6XmNRZ
Point is I don't think you can mega mega Pokemon any more I've seen MMY become MMX but I think they patched that.
Which sucks cause sneaky mega gyrados was a big part of my team.
TheTraininator still frequents the site, so I'd prefer that he respond to your post/someone try to rectify the two viewpoints before anything on PS gets changed.