ORAS UU Teambuilding Compendium [WIP]

[Christo]

Heliolisk as Water check and Volt Switch

 

[DKFirelord]

I. surprise Snorlax isn't in the Fire Check Section I recommend he be added

 

[slated]

recommending slowking under fire, fighting and water checks, as well as PhysDef walls

 

[Patrick1088]

Can we add Pangoro to Choice Band user and Dark Type Switch in? It's Knock Off is one of the strongest in the UU meta, with only Mega Absol being more powerful. It can 2HKO almost every wall in the UU meta.

252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Pangoro Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 204-241 (50.4 - 59.6%) -- 84% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Pangoro Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 190-225 (55.2 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Pangoro Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 320-380 (72 - 85.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Pangoro Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 232 Def Florges: 284-336 (78.8 - 93.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Pangoro Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 232 Def Florges: 428-504 (118.8 - 140%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Pangoro Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Granbull: 240-284 (62.5 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Pangoro Hammer Arm vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Heracross: 196-231 (65.1 - 76.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (not a wall, but a usual switch in for Dark/Fighting moves)

It hits a really interesting speed tier, as well. Base 58 and 252 Speed EVs let's it outspeed uninvested base 80 mons. Most fairies and walls don't invest in speed (Florges is a great example) and can be caught off guard by the Gunk Shot/Poison Jab thinking that you are running a bulky set with no speed.

Edit: Pangoro is the real heavyweight champ...

252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Pangoro Hammer Arm vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 375-442 (103 - 121.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Pangoro Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 375-442 (97.6 - 115.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

 

[Hogg]

Can we add Pangoro to Choice Band user and Dark Type Switch in? It's Knock Off is one of the strongest in the UU meta, with only Mega Absol being more powerful.

With items taken into account, Panda's Knock Off is quite a bit more powerful:

252 Atk Mega Absol Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 8 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 249-294 (77 - 91%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Pangoro Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 8 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 357-420 (110.5 - 130%) -- guaranteed OHKO

In fact, even just with Dread Plate instead of Choice Band, Panda's Knock Off hits harder. It's pretty boss.

(Of course, Panda does face serious competition from Heracross right now, who can also switch into Dark attacks fairly well and completely dismantles walls and stall cores with its CB and Guts SD sets... but Panda definitely has its uses.)

 

[Alfalfa]

Is there something that is preventing Salamence from being added to the list of Dragon Dance users? It is one of the more threatening Dragons in the tier, and its ability to set up and sweep late-game is not that difficult, considering Intimidate gives Salamence a number of set-up opportunities.

Also, can we remove Trevenant from physically defensive walls? It is really mediocre, and if Scrafty is not being mentioned due to how unviable it is, then so should Trevenant. We should really avoid encouraging the use of these Pokemon.

EDIT: Add Heracross to Choice Band and Scarf users

 

[Nightingales]

Maybe you should add a Tailwind section? It can be used for some usefulness, I guess.

 

[North]

With the release of custap berry, Forretress could be put under designated leads.

 

[Schpoonman]

Requesting we add Tyrantrum to Wallbreakers, Choice Band users, and Agility (Rock Polish) set-up sweepers. Tentatively in Stealth Rock users as well, that needs more testing.

 

[Godsend]

Tyrantrum also to fire checks.

 

[DKFirelord]

Is it worth adding a StallBreaker Section ?

 

[YABO]

Tyrantrum also to fire checks.

also burd check. He's one of my favorite switch ins to Crobat.

 

[ShatteredSummers]

Accelgor under dedicated leads. It accomplishes its role as well as (and I would even say a bit better) than Froslass.

 

[Nightingales]

Dragalge might go under Special Wall/Wallbreakers (missed it there whoops). I played a game with a Specially Defensive variant, and it pulled weight.
Also might work as a fighting check.

 

[DaSpoofy]

Can we get some grass checks since serp, shaymin, and roserade are around

 

[North]

Raikou is still under cm users btw

 

[LilOu]

Salamence should definitely be listed under Hazard Control. The fat set does a really good job at it and is also the only viable hazard remover on the tier that can come on both Ground and Water-type moves. Fk Pelipper.

 

[Saria]

Key is busy. LilOuOn is taking over this.

New thread here.