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Overview
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Thundurus-T has enough Speed and Special Attack to be a late-game cleaner as well as an early-game scout, boasting a base 101 Speed stat and a base 145 Special Attack stat. His useful typing and ability leave him with two immunities, five resistances, and only two weaknesses, which helps him switch into commonly seen moves such as Earthquake and Thunder Wave. Thundurus-T is mostly outclassed by Thundurus due to the latter's access to Prankster, and he also faces big competition from Zapdos. Thundurus-T is also pretty frail, so he won't be taking many hits.

Choice
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name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Volt Switch / Focus Blast / Grass Knot
item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
evs: 20 HP / 236 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
nature: Modest / Timid

Moves
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Thunderbolt is Thundurus-T's most reliable STAB attack. Should Thundurus-T be used on a rain team, however, Thunder is a suitable option. It is incredibly powerful and perfectly accurate in the rain, packing a nifty 30% chance to paralyze its target. Hidden Power Ice forms pseudo-BoltBeam coverage with Thundurus-T's Electric-type attack. Psychic hits Mega Venusaur and Amoonguss, both of which are a pain to Thundurus-T. Volt Switch lets Thundurus-T dent a foe and switch out, as well as scout. Focus Blast hits Steel-types such as Heatran, Excadrill, and Ferrothorn, while Grass Knot hits Pokemon such as Mega Swampert and Gastrodon.

Set Details
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20 HP EVs ensure that Thundurus-T will avoid the OHKO from Jolly Tyranitar's Rock Slide and Sylveon's Choice Specs-boosted Hyper Voice. 252 Speed EVs make Thundurus-T as fast as possible, letting him outspeed neutral-natured base 100 Speed Pokemon such as Charizard and its Mega Evolutions, Mega Kangaskhan, and Mega Gardevoir. The remaining EVs are put into Special Attack to let Thundurus-T hit as hard as possible. A Modest nature is used for extra power, but a Timid nature can be used for extra Speed; it lets Thundurus-T outspeed positive-natured base 100 Speed Pokemon. If you decide to use a Choice Scarf instead of Choice Specs, an EV spread of 20 HP / 252 SpA / 236 Spe with a Modest nature should be used to let Thundurus-T outspeed Modest Choice Scarf Hydreigon. A Timid nature is plausible, too, as it lets Thundurus-T outspeed Timid Choice Scarf Hydreigon at the cost of some power. The provided IVs give Thundurus-T Hidden Power Ice.

Usage Tips
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Lead with Thundurus-T and use him as an early-game scout with Volt Switch. When you send out Thundurus-T, if you predict a Fake Out, don't hesitate to switch out into a Pokemon that can tank the hit. Use Thundurus-T as a late-game cleaner once his checks and counters have been removed. Predict switch-ins; if you predict a Garchomp or Landorus-T to come in, use Hidden Power Ice. Use moves appropriately; a neutral Thunderbolt or Thunder does more damage than a 2x super effective Hidden Power Ice, a 2x resisted Thunderbolt or Thunder does more than a neutral Hidden Power Ice, and so on and so forth. Even though it is super effective, don't use Grass Knot against Rotom-W, as it is very light; instead, use Thunderbolt or Thunder.

Team Options
========

If Thundurus-T is being used on a rain team, Politoed is a must-have partner because of its ability Drizzle. Thanks to Thundurus-T's ability to quickly dispose of Landorus-T, physical attackers such as Mega Kangaskhan, Terrakion, and Talonflame are good partners. Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame can remove bulky Grass-types such as Amoonguss, which Thundurus-T has trouble with. This does, however, stack up a weakness to Rock-type attacks such as Rock Slide. Wide Guard support from Pokemon such as Aegislash protects Thundurus-T and his teammates this move, as well as other common attacks such as Hyper Voice, and Heat Wave. As Thundurus-T makes a good early-game scout, pairing him with Fake Out users such as Mega Kangaskhan and Ludicolo is helpful. They shield Thundurus-T from damage for a turn and let him scout with Volt Switch more easily. Landorus-T provides Intimidate support and can freely spam Earthquake thanks to Thundurus-T's Flying typing. Other Ground-types such as Garchomp and Mamoswine work well alongside Thundurus-T, too. Helping Hand users power up Thundurus-T's attacks to monstrous levels. Politoed and Cresselia make for solid users. Thundurus-T's base 101 Speed isn't bad at all, but it falls short of outspeeding some notable Pokemon such as Gengar and Garchomp. Speed control from Pokemon such as Politoed and Suicune is therefore appreciated.

Other Options
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Discharge can be used for a multi-target STAB attack, but it is significantly weaker than Thunderbolt and Thunder. If you are using it, however, pair up Thundurus-T with a Ground-type Pokemon or a Pokemon with Lightningrod, Motor Drive, or Volt Absorb. Hidden Power Flying was a decent choice in previous years, but the change to the way Thundurus-T can be legally obtained with it forces him to use a Speed IV of 30, making it a really poor option compared to Hidden Power Ice or some other coverage move such as Psychic. A Life Orb increases Thundurus-T's damage output by 30% and doesn't lock him into one move. However, Thundurus-T gets quickly worn down by its recoil. Thundurus-T has a few useful physical attacks such as Knock Off and Superpower, but it's best to keep him firing off special attacks. Nasty Plot can be used to boost Thundurus-T's Special Attack to outstanding levels.

Checks & Counters
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**Typing Advantage**: As Thundurus-T is Choice-locked, Pokemon that can take advantage of the move that he is locked into are troublesome. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Excadrill, and Landorus-T are immune to Thundurus-T's Electric-type attacks. Though he's not allergic to Rock Slide like Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame are, Thundurus-T cannot stomach repeated Rock Slides. The most common Rock Slide users, namely Tyranitar, Garchomp, and Landorus-T, are to be feared, but they have to be wary of Thundurus-T's coverage moves.

**Double Targeting**: Because Thundurus-T is usually using a Choice item, it is usually safe for the opponent to double target Thundurus-T and quickly KO him.

**Speed Control**: Thundurus-T is much easier to deal with once the opponent's team is faster than him. Trick Room, Tailwind, and Icy Wind will all get the job done.
 
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The listed IV combination for the specs set isn't obtainable with a pentagon because of the forced three perfect IVs, the best possible HP Flying spread for an ORAS Thundurus is 31/31/31/30/30/30 (which is really ironic of course)
 

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The listed IV combination for the specs set isn't obtainable with a pentagon because of the forced three perfect IVs, the best possible HP Flying spread for an ORAS Thundurus is 31/31/31/30/30/30 (which is really ironic of course)
Oh wow that just makes me want to all-out remove the Specs set. I'll put your spread in, and when this is QC ready I'll see what they say about it :) (maybe I'll slash HP Ice) :o
 
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go ahead and combine the choice sets, with specs being the first option.

Choice
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name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Volt Switch / Focus Blast / Grass Knot
item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
evs: 20 HP / 236 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
nature: Modest / Timid

psychic is preferred because it's just as strong as HP flying after STAB and still hits mega venusaur and stuff.

you can add in a life orb set too, with protect over volt switch of course. it's more flexible than choice sets and has comparable power to specs.

be sure to give specific pokemon in checks and counters.
 

SM979

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go ahead and combine the choice sets, with specs being the first option.

Choice
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name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Volt Switch / Focus Blast / Grass Knot
item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
evs: 20 HP / 236 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
nature: Modest / Timid

psychic is preferred because it's just as strong as HP flying after STAB and still hits mega venusaur and stuff.

you can add in a life orb set too, with protect over volt switch of course. it's more flexible than choice sets and has comparable power to specs.

be sure to give specific pokemon in checks and counters.
Did you want me to add a LO set or was that optional? and how's it look now
 

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1/2, nicely written :)
Overview
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Thundurus-T has enough Speed and Special Attack to be a late-game cleaner as well as an early-game scout, boasting a base 101 Speed stat and a base 145 Special Attack stat. (Would you be opposed to With his base 101 Speed stat and base 145 Special Attack stat, Thundurus-T can be a late-game cleaner as well as an early-game scout. ?) His useful typing and ability leave him with two immunities, five resistances, and only two weaknesses. This helps him counter commonly seen moves such as Earthquake and Thunder Wave. However, Thundurus-T lacks good coverage, as his only good options are in Hidden Power Ice and Focus Blast. (is Psychic worth a mention here? I know it's not considered a good coverage type...thing...but it is on the set. idk just checking) Due to Prankster, Thundurus-T is mostly outclassed by Thundurus, and he also faces big competition from Zapdos. Thundurus-T is also pretty frail, so he won't be taking much many hits.

Choice
########
name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Volt Switch / Focus Blast / Grass Knot
item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
evs: 20 HP / 236 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
nature: Modest / Timid

Moves
========

Thunderbolt is Thundurus-T's most reliable STAB attack. Should Thundurus-T be used on a rain team, however, Thunder is a suitable option. It is incredibly powerful and is perfectly accurate in the rain, packing a nifty 30% chance to paralyze its target. Hidden Power Ice forms pseudo-BoltBeam coverage with Thundurus-T's Electric-type attack. Psychic hits Mega Venusaur and Amoonguss, both of which are a pain to Thundurus-T. Volt Switch lets Thundurus-T dent a foe something and switch out, as well as scout. Focus Blast hits Steel-types such as Heatran, Excadrill, and Ferrothorn, while Grass Knot hits Pokemon such as Mega Swampert and Gastrodon.

Set Details
========

20 HP EVs ensure that Thundurus-T will avoid the OHKO from Jolly Tyranitar's Rock Slide and Sylveon's Choice Specs-boosted Hyper Voice. 252 Speed EVs make Thundurus-T as fast as possible, letting him outspeed neutral-natured base 100s such as Charizard and its Mega Evolutions, Mega Kangaskhan, and Mega Gardevoir. The remaining EVs are put into Special Attack to let Thundurus-T hit as hard as possible. A Modest nature is used for extra power, but a Timid nature can be used for extra Speed; it lets Thundurus-T outspeed positive-natured base 100s. If you decide to use a Choice Scarf instead of Choice Specs, then an EV spread of 20 HP / 252 SpA / 236 Spe with a Modest nature should be used; it lets to let Thundurus-T outspeed Modest Choice Scarf Hydreigon. A Timid nature is plausible, too, as it lets Thundurus-T outspeed Timid Choice Scarf Hydreigon at the cost of some power. The provided IVs give Thundurus-T Hidden Power Ice and reduce the amount of damage taken from Foul Play and self-inflicted confusion (yeah I see what you mean with self-inflicted, but the damage is self-inflicted, not the confusion).

Usage Tips
========

Lead with Thundurus-T and use him as an early-game scout with Volt Switch. When you send out Thundurus-T, if you predict a Fake Out, don't hesitate to switch out into a Pokemon that can tank the hit. Use Thundurus-T as a late-game cleaner once his checks and counters have been removed. Predict switch-ins; if you predict a Garchomp or Landorus-T to come in, use Hidden Power Ice. A neutral Thunderbolt or Thunder does more damage than a 2x super effective Hidden Power Ice, and so on and so forth (elaborate?). Due to its weight, Even though it is super effective, don't use Grass Knot against Rotom-W, as it is very light despite its super effective status; instead, use Thunderbolt or Thunder.

Team Options
========

If Thundurus-T is being used on a rain team, then Politoed us is a must-have partner because it sets up rain. Thanks to Thundurus-T's ability to quickly dispose of Landorus-T, physical attackers such as Mega Kangaskhan, Terrakion, and Talonflame are good partners. Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame can remove bulky Grass-types such as Amoonguss, which Thundurus-T has trouble with. This does, however, stack up a weakness to Rock-type attacks such as Rock Slide. Wide Guard support from Pokemon such as Aegislash protects Thundurus-T and his teammates from common attacks such as Rock Slide, Hyper Voice, and Heat Wave. As Thundurus-T makes a good early-game scout, pairing him with Fake Out users such as Mega Kangaskhan and Ludicolo is helpful. They shield Thundurus-T from damage for a turn and let him scout with Volt Switch more easily. Landorus-T provides Intimidate support and can freely spam Earthquake thanks to Thundurus-T's Flying typing. Other Ground-types such as Garchomp and Mamoswine work well alongside Thundurus-T, too. Helping Hand users power up Thundurus-T's attacks to monstrous levels. Politoed and Cresselia make for solid users. Thundurus-T's base 101 Speed isn't bad at all, but it falls short of outspeeding some notable Pokemon such as Gengar and Garchomp. Speed control from Pokemon such as Politoed and Suicune is appreciated.

Other Options
########

Discharge can be used for a multi-target STAB attack, but it is significantly weaker than Thunderbolt and Thunder. If you are using it, however, pair up Thundurus-T with a Ground-type Pokemon or a Pokemon with Lightningrod or Volt Absorb. Hidden Power Flying was a decent choice in previous years, but the nerf (idk if you can nerf a way, so maybe use "change" instead) to the way Thundurus-T can be legally obtained with it forces him to use a Speed IV of 30, making it a really poor option compared to Hidden Power Ice or some other coverage move such as Psychic. A Life Orb increases Thundurus-T's damage output by 30% and doesn't lock him into one move. However, Thundurus-T gets quickly worn down by its recoil. Thundurus-T has a few useful physical attacks such as Knock Off and Superpower, but it's best to keep in (on? him? I think you meant a different word here) firing off special attacks. Nasty Plot can be used to boost Thundurus-T's Special Attack to outstanding levels.

Checks & Counters
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**Typing Advantage**: As Thundurus-T is Choice-locked, Pokemon that can take advantage of the move that it he is locked into are troublesome. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Excadrill, and Landorus-T are immune to Thundurus-T's Electric-type attacks. Though he's not allergic (lol) to Rock Slide like Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame are, Thundurus-T cannot stomach repeated Rock Slides. The most common Rock Slide users, namely Tyranitar, Garchomp, and Landorus-T, are to be feared, but they have to be wary of Thundurus-T's coverage moves.

**Double Targeting**: Since Because (typically we will only use since to refer to time, like "I haven't eaten since breakfast") Thundurus-T is usually using a Choiced set of some kind item, it is usually (you use usually twice here, so maybe change one) safe for the opponent to double target Thundurus-T and quickly KO him.

**Speed Control**: Thundurus-T is much easier to deal with once the opponent's team is faster than him. Trick Room, Tailwind, and Icy Wind will all get the job done.
 

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Overview
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Thundurus-T has enough Speed and Special Attack to be a late-game cleaner as well as an early-game scout, boasting a base 101 Speed stat and a base 145 Special Attack stat. His useful typing and ability leave him with two immunities, five resistances, and only two weaknesses. This, (comma) which helps him counter switch into (or 'helps him counter users of', whichever corresponds more to what you meant, but you don't 'counter' moves) commonly seen moves such as Earthquake and Thunder Wave. However, Thundurus-T lacks good coverage, as his only good options are Hidden Power Ice, Psychic, and Focus Blast. (and Grass Knot, which is a slashed move, and Dark Pulse if you're being just a bit generous... is that coverage honestly that bad? It's far from Greninja/Starmie/Octillery of course, but Zapdos and quite a lot of other Electric-types wish they had a movepool like that) Due to Prankster, Thundurus-T is mostly outclassed by Thundurus due to the latter's access to Prankster, and faces he also faces big competition from Zapdos. Thundurus-T is also pretty frail, so he won't be taking many hits.

Choice
########
name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Volt Switch / Focus Blast / Grass Knot
item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
evs: 20 HP / 236 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
nature: Modest / Timid

Moves
========

Thunderbolt is Thundurus-T's most reliable STAB attack. Should Thundurus-T be used on a rain team, however, Thunder is a suitable option. It is incredibly powerful and perfectly accurate in the rain, packing a nifty 30% chance to paralyze its target. Hidden Power Ice forms pseudo-BoltBeam coverage with Thundurus-T's Electric-type attack. Psychic hits Mega Venusaur and Amoonguss, both of which are a pain to Thundurus-T. Volt Switch lets Thundurus-T dent a foe and switch out, as well as scout. Focus Blast hits Steel-types such as Heatran, Excadrill, and Ferrothorn, while Grass Knot hits Pokemon such as Mega Swampert and Gastrodon.

Set Details
========

20 HP EVs ensure that Thundurus-T will avoid the OHKO from Jolly Tyranitar's Rock Slide and Sylveon's Choice Specs-boosted Hyper Voice. 252 Speed EVs make Thundurus-T as fast as possible, letting him outspeed neutral-natured base 100s Speed Pokemon such as Charizard and its Mega Evolutions, Mega Kangaskhan, and Mega Gardevoir. The remaining EVs are put into Special Attack to let Thundurus-T hit as hard as possible. A Modest nature is used for extra power, but a Timid nature can be used for extra Speed; it lets Thundurus-T outspeed positive-natured base 100s Speed Pokemon. If you decide to use a Choice Scarf instead of Choice Specs, then (no 'then' coordinating an 'if' in written text please, comes from spoken text but serves literally no purpose here whatsoever. Same goes for 'still' coordinating an 'even' and the like.) an EV spread of 20 HP / 252 SpA / 236 Spe with a Modest nature should be used to let Thundurus-T outspeed Modest Choice Scarf Hydreigon. A Timid nature is plausible, too, as it lets Thundurus-T outspeed Timid Choice Scarf Hydreigon at the cost of some power. The provided IVs give Thundurus-T Hidden Power Ice and reduce the amount of damage taken from Foul Play and confusion. (too many words for something that's assumed familiar, you obviously would prefer 0 Atk IVs on any special attacker but you don't explicitly mention it there either simply because we assume the reader knows it. Not too sure either if it's all that necessary to mention explicitly that those are the IVs for HP Ice but whatever)

Usage Tips
========

Lead with Thundurus-T and use him as an early-game scout with Volt Switch. When you send out Thundurus-T, if you predict a Fake Out, don't hesitate to switch out into a Pokemon that can tank the hit. Use Thundurus-T as a late-game cleaner once his checks and counters have been removed. Predict switch-ins; if you predict a Garchomp or Landorus-T to come in, use Hidden Power Ice. Use moves appropriately; a neutral Thunderbolt or Thunder does more damage than a 2x super effective Hidden Power Ice, a 2x resisted Thunderbolt or Thunder does more than a neutral Hidden Power Ice, and so on and so forth. Even though its is super effective, don't use Grass Knot against Rotom-W, as it is very light; instead, use Thunderbolt or Thunder.

Team Options
========

If Thundurus-T is being used on a rain team, then Politoed is a must-have partner because it sets up rain of its ability Drizzle. Thanks to Thundurus-T's ability to quickly dispose of Landorus-T, physical attackers such as Mega Kangaskhan, Terrakion, and Talonflame are good partners. Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame can remove bulky Grass-types such as Amoonguss, which Thundurus-T has trouble with. This does, however, stack up a weakness to Rock-type attacks such as Rock Slide. Wide Guard support from Pokemon such as Aegislash protects Thundurus-T and his teammates from this move, as well as from other (less choppy) common attacks such as Rock Slide, Hyper Voice (RC) and Heat Wave. As Thundurus-T makes a good early-game scout, pairing him with Fake Out users such as Mega Kangaskhan and Ludicolo is helpful. They shield Thundurus-T from damage for a turn and let him scout with Volt Switch more easily. Landorus-T provides Intimidate support and can freely spam Earthquake thanks to Thundurus-T's Flying typing. Other Ground-types such as Garchomp and Mamoswine work well alongside Thundurus-T, too. Helping Hand users power up Thundurus-T's attacks to monstrous levels. Politoed and Cresselia make for solid users. Thundurus-T's base 101 Speed isn't bad at all, but it falls short of outspeeding some notable Pokemon such as Gengar and Garchomp. Speed control from Pokemon such as Politoed and Suicune is therefore appreciated.

Other Options
########

Discharge can be used for a multi-target STAB attack, but it is significantly weaker than Thunderbolt and Thunder. If you are using it, however, pair up Thundurus-T with a Ground-type Pokemon or a Pokemon with Lightningrod, Motor Drive, or Volt Absorb. Hidden Power Flying was a decent choice in previous years, but the change to the way Thundurus-T can be legally obtained with it forces him to use a Speed IV of 30, making it a really poor option compared to Hidden Power Ice or some other coverage move such as Psychic. A Life Orb increases Thundurus-T's damage output by 30% and doesn't lock him into one move. However, Thundurus-T gets quickly worn down by its recoil. Thundurus-T has a few useful physical attacks such as Knock Off and Superpower, but it's best to keep him firing off special attacks. Nasty Plot can be used to boost Thundurus-T's Special Attack to outstanding levels.

Checks & Counters
########

**Typing Advantage**: As Thundurus-T is Choice-locked, Pokemon that can take advantage of the move that he is locked into are troublesome. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Excadrill, and Landorus-T are immune to Thundurus-T's Electric-type attacks. Though he's not allergic to Rock Slide like Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame are, Thundurus-T cannot stomach repeated Rock Slides. The most common Rock Slide users, namely Tyranitar, Garchomp, and Landorus-T, are to be feared, but they have to be wary of Thundurus-T's coverage moves.

**Double Targeting**: Because Thundurus-T is usually using a Choice item, it is usually safe for the opponent to double target Thundurus-T and quickly KO him.

**Speed Control**: Thundurus-T is much easier to deal with once the opponent's team is faster than him. Trick Room, Tailwind, and Icy Wind will all get the job done.



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