Hydreigon (Taunt Attacker)

[Tokyo Tom]

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[SET]
name: Taunt Attacker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Dark Pulse / Dragon Pulse
move 3: Focus Blast / Flamethrower
move 4: Roost
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Taunt allows Hydreigon to stallbreak, limiting the recovery of its common switch-ins such as Chansey, Blissey, bulky Water-types, and more, while also allowing Hydreigon to beat various Pokemon that rely on status to wear down foes, such as Gliscor. Dark Pulse is Hydreigon's main attack, letting it threaten bulky Ghost- and Psychic-types, such as Jellicent, Celebi, Mew, and Reuniclus. Dragon Pulse is another option, as it offers superior neutral coverage and has a higher Base Power, but Hydreigon usually prefers Dark Pulse to threaten the aforementioned Pokemon. Hydreigon's next move allows it to threaten Steel-types. Focus Blast allows Hydreigon to beat Heatran and also nets coverage on opposing Dark-types, while Flamethrower allows it to KO Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Scizor. Finally, Roost offers Hydreigon increased longevity and helps it make use of its good typing and decent bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Leftovers is a viable option on Hydreigon, as it increases Hydreigon's longevity while sacrificing some of its offensive presence. In a similar vein, you can opt to use a bulkier spread with more emphasis on HP; however, since Hydreigon primarily fulfills an offensive role with stallbreaking being secondary, it usually appreciates the extra damage output provided by a Life Orb as well as maximum investment in Special Attack and Speed. This investment allows Hydreigon to hit as hard as possible while outspeeding key threats such as Kyurem-B, Nasty Plot Celebi, and Timid Heatran.</p>

<p>Earth Power is usable as Hydreigon's coverage move, and it retains most of the coverage of Focus Blast. However, Focus Blast is preferred due to its ability to hit a wider variety of Steel- and Dark-types for heavier damage, especially Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Tyranitar.</p>

<p>Heatran is a good partner to Hydreigon because it can check Latios and Latias and provide Toxic and Stealth Rock, helping Hydreigon stall Pokemon out with Taunt. In return, Hydreigon can beat bulky Water-types, Chansey, Blissey, and Gliscor, all of which give Heatran trouble. Like most Hydreigon sets, bulky Starmie is a great partner, handling Keldeo and switching into Fighting- and Ice-type moves aimed at Hydreigon. In return, Hydreigon can remove the Pokemon that prevent Starmie from keeping its side of the field free from hazards, namely, Jellicent and Ferrothorn. Hydreigon can also remove other threats to Starmie such as Tyranitar and Celebi.</p>

 

[FNH]

Hey Tom, I'll spit an opinion to you. As you stated this is on stall breaking so it would be along the lines of taunting then move spamming, which is why i think Focus Blast needs be secondary and Flamethrower put first in its stead, but cause of the major PP difference. Dragon pulse and Dark Pulse is all based on preference, but dark pulse is rightfully preferred because of it's side-effect 20% flinch rate which can grant you basically a free turn. Also Leftovers needs to be put over Life Orb so you can spam moves, instead of giving away more free turns when you have to roost. Also since they aren't recovering much HP, I feel like Toxic could be also used with a bulkier spread. That's my initial opinion on the set, cool set and good luck with it!

 

[Jirachee]

focus blast is placed over flamethrower because it hits heatran and tyranitar, two pokemon that are extremely common on defensive teams and that hydreigon is walled by if it doesn't use it. since this hydreigon only uses two attacking moves you need to maximize your coverage within them, and a walled hydreigon is a useless one.

also I'd say dark pulse isn't first because of its flinch rate, but because it can hit the many psychic types that populate bw ou for huge damage, allowing hydreigon to threaten out bulkier walls, which is important in doing a great job as a stallbreaker.

what does toxic even hit on hydreigon :( I'd much rather use additional coverage instead

 

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[SET]
name: Taunt Attacker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Dark Pulse / Dragon Pulse
move 3: Focus Blast / Flamethrower
move 4: Roost
item: Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Taunt allows Hydreigon to stall-break, limiting the recovery of its common switch-(add hyphen)ins such as Chansey, Blissey, bulky Waters-types, and more. It also allows, (AC) while also allowing Hydreigon to beat various Pokemon who that rely on status to wear down opponents foes, such as Subsitute + Toxic Gliscor. Dark Pulse is Hydreigon's main attack, and which lets it threaten bulky Ghost- and Psychic-(remove space)types, such as Jellicent, Celebi, Mew, and Reuniclus. Another option, Dragon Pulse is another option, as it offers superior neutral coverage and has a higher base power, but Hydreigon would usually rather be using uses Dark Pulse to threaten the aformentioned aforementioned Pokemon. Hydreigon's coverage move, Focus Blast, is used to threaten Steel-types. Focus Blast beats Heatran and also nets coverage on opposing Dark-types, while Flamethrower allows Hydreigon to KO Ferrothorn, Skarmory, (Skarmory has Sturdy, so you might want to mention that it KO's after Stealth Rocks.) and Scizor. Finally, Roost offers Hydreigon increased longevity and helps it make use of its good typing and decent bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Leftovers is a viable option on Hydreigon, as it increases its Hydreigon's longevity while sacrificing some of its offensive presence. In a similar vein, you can opt to use a bulkier spread with more emphasis on HP,(comma -> semicolon); however, since Hydreigon primarily fulfills an offensive role, (RC) with Sstallbreaking being secondary, it usually appreciates the extra damage output provided by a Life Orb as well as maximum investment in Special Attack and Speed. This investment allows Hydreigon to hit as hard as possible while also outspeeding key threats such as Kyurem-B, Nasty Plot Celebi, and Timid Heatran, and more.</p>

<p>Earth Power is useable usable as Hydreigon's coverage move, and it retains most of the coverage of Focus Blast. However, Focus Blast is preferred due to the higher damage output, especially against Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Tyranitar. (I would also mention about how Focus Blast is super effective against Ferrothorn whereas Earth Power is neutral, and how Focus Blast is neutral against Skarmory whereas Earth Power is ineffective.)</p>

<p>Heatran is a good partner to this Hydreigon set, (RC) since because (since implies time) Hydreigon can wear down bulky Water-types,(comma -> period). Chansey and Blissey, and also beat SubToxic Gliscor, all of which give Heatran trouble. (None of this relates to Hydreigon) In return, Heatran can check Latios and Latias and provide Toxic and/or Stealth Rock, helping Hydreigon stall Pokemon out with Taunt. As with most Hydreigon sets, Bbulky Starmie is a great partner, handling Keldeo and switching into Fighting- and Ice-type moves aimed at Hydreigon. In return, Hydreigon can remove the Pokemon that hamper Starmie from keeping its side of the field free from hazards;(semicolon -> comma), namely, Jellicent and Ferrothorn. It Hydreigon can also remove other threats to Starmie such as Tyranitar and Celebi.</p>

 

[Goddess Briyella]

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[SET]
name: Taunt Attacker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Dark Pulse / Dragon Pulse
move 3: Focus Blast / Flamethrower
move 4: Roost
item: Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Taunt allows Hydreigon to stall-break, limiting the recovery of its common switch-(add hyphen)ins such as Chansey, Blissey, bulky Waters-types, and more. It also allows, (AC) while also allowing Hydreigon to beat various Pokemon who that rely on status to wear down opponents foes, such as Subsitute + Toxic Gliscor. Dark Pulse is Hydreigon's main attack, and which lets it threaten bulky Ghost- and Psychic-(remove space)types, such as Jellicent, Celebi, Mew, and Reuniclus. Another option, Dragon Pulse is another option, as it offers superior neutral coverage and has a higher base power, but Hydreigon would usually rather be using uses Dark Pulse to threaten the aformentioned aforementioned Pokemon. Hydreigon's coverage move, Focus Blast, is used to threaten Steel-types. Focus Blast beats Heatran and also nets coverage on opposing Dark-types, while Flamethrower allows Hydreigon to KO Ferrothorn, Skarmory, (Skarmory has Sturdy, so you might want to mention that it KO's after Stealth Rocks.) and Scizor. Finally, Roost offers Hydreigon increased longevity and helps it make use of its good typing and decent bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Leftovers is a viable option on Hydreigon, as it increases its Hydreigon's longevity while sacrificing some of its offensive presence. In a similar vein, you can opt to use a bulkier spread with more emphasis on HP,(comma -> semicolon); however, since Hydreigon primarily fulfills an offensive role, (RC) with Sstallbreaking being secondary, it usually appreciates the extra damage output provided by a Life Orb as well as maximum investment in Special Attack and Speed. This investment allows Hydreigon to hit as hard as possible while also outspeeding key threats such as Kyurem-B, Nasty Plot Celebi, and Timid Heatran, and more.</p>

<p>Earth Power is useable usable as Hydreigon's coverage move, and it retains most of the coverage of Focus Blast. However, Focus Blast is preferred due to the higher damage output, especially against Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Tyranitar. (I would also mention about how Focus Blast is super effective against Ferrothorn whereas Earth Power is neutral, and how Focus Blast is neutral against Skarmory whereas Earth Power is ineffective.)</p>

<p>Heatran is a good partner to this Hydreigon set, (RC) since because (since implies time) Hydreigon can wear down bulky Water-types,(comma -> period). Chansey and Blissey, and also beat SubToxic Gliscor, all of which give Heatran trouble. (None of this relates to Hydreigon) In return, Heatran can check Latios and Latias and provide Toxic and/or Stealth Rock, helping Hydreigon stall Pokemon out with Taunt. As with Like most Hydreigon sets, Bbulky Starmie is a great partner, handling Keldeo and switching into Fighting- and Ice-type moves aimed at Hydreigon. In return, Hydreigon can remove the Pokemon that hamper Starmie from keeping its side of the field free from hazards;(semicolon -> comma), namely, Jellicent and Ferrothorn. It Hydreigon can also remove other threats to Starmie such as Tyranitar and Celebi.</p>

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hydreigon

[SET]
name: Taunt Attacker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Dark Pulse / Dragon Pulse
move 3: Focus Blast / Flamethrower
move 4: Roost
item: Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Modest
EVs evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Modest


[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Taunt allows Hydreigon to stall-break stallbreak, limiting the recovery of its common switch-ins such as Chansey, Blissey, bulky Water-types, and more, while also allowing Hydreigon to beat various Pokemon that rely on status to wear down foes, such as Gliscor. Dark Pulse is Hydreigon's main attack, which lets letting it threaten bulky Ghost- and Psychic-types, such as Jellicent, Celebi, Mew, and Reuniclus. Dragon Pulse is another option, as it offers superior neutral coverage and has a higher Base Power, but Hydreigon usually uses prefers Dark Pulse to threaten the aforementioned Pokemon. Hydreigon's next move allows it to threaten Steel-types. Focus Blast beats allows Hydreigon to beat Heatran and also nets coverage on opposing Dark-types, while Flamethrower allows Hydreigon it to KO Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Scizor. Finally, Roost offers Hydreigon increased longevity and helps it make use of its good typing and decent bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Leftovers is a viable option on Hydreigon, as it increases Hydreigon's longevity while sacrificing some of its offensive presence. In a similar vein, you can opt to use a bulkier spread with more emphasis on HP; however, since Hydreigon primarily fulfills an offensive role with stallbreaking being secondary, it usually appreciates the extra damage output provided by a Life Orb as well as maximum investment in Special Attack and Speed. This investment allows Hydreigon to hit as hard as possible while outspeeding key threats such as Kyurem-B, Nasty Plot Celebi, and Timid Heatran.</p>

<p>Earth Power is usable as Hydreigon's coverage move, and it retains most of the coverage of Focus Blast. However, Focus Blast is preferred due to its ability to hit a wider variety of Steel- and Dark-types for super effective considerable (or w/e but super effective is kinda sorta wrong since Earth Power hits Tyranitar super effectively as well while neither hits Skarm super effectively) damage, especially Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Tyranitar.</p>

<p>Heatran is a good partner to Hydreigon because it can check Latios and Latias and provide Toxic and/or (looks fugly so should be avoided if reasonably possible, which is the case here because Heatran can a) check Latios/Latias, b) provide Toxic, and c) provide SR, the 'and' doesn't necessarily imply that it offers both at the same time) Stealth Rock, helping Hydreigon stall Pokemon out with Taunt. In return, Hydreigon can beat bulky Water-types, Chansey and Blissey, and Gliscor, all of which give Heatran trouble. Like most Hydreigon sets, bulky Starmie is a great partner, handling Keldeo and switching into Fighting- and Ice-type moves aimed at Hydreigon. In return, Hydreigon can remove the Pokemon that hamper prevent Starmie from keeping its side of the field free from hazards, namely, Jellicent and Ferrothorn. Hydreigon can also remove other threats to Starmie such as Tyranitar and Celebi.</p>

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