OU Rotom-W

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the spread should either be slashed with 88 speed evs or u can just tell it in the set details that "88 speed evs allowes rotom-w to outspeed and counter jolly swords dance crawdaunt" this is mainly for teams that are weak to crawdaunt, but should be implemented as crawdaunt is a huge threath to more bulky playstyles.
 
No, 248 HP is better. Leftovers numbers are not really important when you consider the potential for Rotom-W to be hit with Knock Off, and that 304 is a terrible HP number for residual damage, as it is divisible by 8 and 16. Max HP Rotom-W takes 1 more HP of damage from sand, Stealth Rock, burn, Toxic, and Leech Seed, all of which are undesirable.
In that case, I think it at least needs to be briefly explained why running 252 HP might be better and worse. It could be summed up pretty quickly, something like, "Running max HP will give Rotom-W an additional point of Leftovers recovery every turn, which is helpful if you can keep Rotom-W healthy, but the extra HP lost to various forms of passive damage will add up if Rotom-W is burned/poisoned, suffers Sandstorm damage, or has its Leftovers removed via Knock Off." Ultimately up to you, though.
 
Should I mention 56 Speed EVs as a benchmark for max speed Adamant Tyranitar, which has become a more viable option due to the increased usage in Banded Tyranitar? This benchmark literally only takes away three points of defense and allows Rotom-W from getting outsped and 2HKOd by Adamant BandTar. Should I make mention of it, or even make the main spread since the loss in defense from the current is literally only a negligible amount of 3 points of defense?
 

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Should I mention 56 Speed EVs as a benchmark for max speed Adamant Tyranitar, which has become a more viable option due to the increased usage in Banded Tyranitar? This benchmark literally only takes away three points of defense and allows Rotom-W from getting outsped and 2HKOd by Adamant BandTar. Should I make mention of it, or even make the main spread since the loss in defense from the current is literally only a negligible amount of 3 points of defense?
I wouldn't make it the main spread for now since that extra bit of bulk really helps and banded max speed ttar isn't /that/ common but it can't hurt to mention it in set details.
 
I wouldn't make it the main spread for now since that extra bit of bulk really helps and banded max speed ttar isn't /that/ common but it can't hurt to mention it in set details.
Jolly Azumarill is not common either, yet Rotom-W runs enough speed for that. I doubt that the loss of 3 points of defense is significant either. Speed investment in Rotom-W is meant to be a benchmark, and a small increase in speed by like 3 points is not going to hurt Rotom-W's longetivity by that much.
 

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Don't put speed on main spread bar the 44 for min lando but mention that you can run speed in oo that you mentioned. Honestly i don't see the need for 44 speed as jolly azu is long gone and defensive lando should always run 8 speed atleast for 44 rotom. At this point i don't feel the creeping is needed
 

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agreed with aim that there is no point in investing 44 speed as jolly azumarill is not a thing and more landorus-t do run speed. Just put the speed back in defence and mention somewhere that you could run speed for azumarill Alfalfa
 
Alfalfa said:
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 44 Spe
I guess you made a mistake here since it's impossible to have 248 hp/252 def + 44 ev speed so you should edit.
Also it might be cool to mention Bulky offensive Rotom with hp fire in other option, which is not bad since it can lure thing such as spe def gliscor (will do a lot of damage with hpump + outspeed), and it can also lure ferrothorn/breloom/chesnaught.
128+ SpA Rotom-W Hydro Pump vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 282-332 (80.1 - 94.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 220 HP / 128 SpA / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Pain Split


Otherwise well done man, it's solid af.
 
Hey you should add the suggestion of Toupip in the other options and Chesto berry should be mentioned under the set details of the phys def pivot set. You should mention the Choice Specs set as well, it works pretty well against balanced builds, because you can easily trick the ferro for example. Otherwise well done! If you edit your post with that things you will be fine and The DragonKnight will give you the last QC n_n
 

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hey there, could you mention signal beam and hp fire in oo, it lures in celebi and ferrothorn respectively, who are normally counters to rotom-w.
 
Hey you should add the suggestion of Toupip in the other options and Chesto berry should be mentioned under the set details of the phys def pivot set. You should mention the Choice Specs set as well, it works pretty well against balanced builds, because you can easily trick the ferro for example. Otherwise well done! If you edit your post with that things you will be fine and The DragonKnight will give you the last QC n_n
I already have a small mention of Chesto Berry under Set Details, but I will make more mention of more offensive variants of Rotom-W.
 

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Overview
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Rotom-W is a premier pivot in the OU metagame, being able to switch into a number of common Pokemon, such as Azumarill, Talonflame, and Landorus-T. Due to its access to Will-O-Wisp and sufficient defenses enabling it to pivot into a number of offensive threats, its capabilities make it is very easy to fit into a balanced or a slower-paced offensive team. With these in mind, Rotom-W can prove to be a useful Pokemon; however, it has some flaws holding it back. However, Rotom-W has a low HP stat, and its lack of reliable recovery makes it easy for the opponent to wear it down. In addition, there are a slew of Pokemon in OU that are capable of getting past Rotom-W through sheer power, specific coverage, or other aspects the like. Regardless, do not overlook Rotom-W, for its pivoting capabilities earns it a spot on several teams.

Physically Defensive Pivot
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name: Physically Defensive Pivot
move 1: Volt Switch
move 2: Hydro Pump
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Pain Split / Rest
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers / Chesto Berry
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
nature: Bold

Moves
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Volt Switch is Rotom-W's Electric STAB move that allows it to regain momentum after pivoting into a threat. Hydro Pump is Rotom-W's secondary STAB move that allows it to beat some of the Pokemon it checks, most notably Ground-types like such as Landorus-T and Mamoswine that are immune to Volt Switch. Will-O-Wisp allows Rotom-W to inflict burns on the opponent and deter physical attackers. Pain Split can be used when Rotom-W's HP is low to regain some HP, but it tends to be very inconsistent overall due to being dependent on the opponent's HP. Rest in tandem with Chesto Berry can be used instead, but the Chesto Berry only works once, whereas Pain Split can be used multiple times; however, it can be is best used if Rotom-W's team is weak to status.

Set Details
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248 HP EVs and 252 Defense EVs give Rotom-W close to maximum HP while allowing it to take less passive damage from Stealth Rock, status, etc. Leftovers is appreciated for its passive recovery, as Rotom-W gets worn down rather easily. However, if Rotom-W is running Rest, then Chesto Berry should be used instead to complement Rest. If outrunning particular threats is important, then 44 Speed EVs can be taken from Defense and put into Speed to outrun Jolly Azumarill so Rotom-W will be able to burn it after a Belly Drum, but such Jolly Azumarill is not particularly common or 'this scenario'. Alternatively, 88 Speed EVs can be used to outspeed Jolly Crawdaunt, or 128 Speed EVs to outrun Adamant Bisharp, both at the cost of some bulk. 44 Speed EVs can also be used to A Bold Nature allows Rotom-W to take physical attacks from Pokemon like such as Azumarill and Mega Pinsir better. If some more special bulk is desired, Rotom-W can run a mixed defensive spread of 248 HP / 152 Def / 108 SpD to enable it to take hits from Mega Manectric, Landorus, Latios, and Latias much easier.

Usage Tips
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Rotom-W should be used to pivot into common Pokemon that it can check, such as Talonflame, Azumarill, Landorus-T, and Sand Rush Excadrill, and the like. However, do not let Rotom-W get worn down too much, as it needs to be healthy to handle many of the Pokemon whose attacks it does not resist. Use Volt Switch for scouting and gaining momentum, especially off against threats that do not want to stay in on Rotom-W, such as Azumarill, Landorus-T, and Talonflame. Be careful when using Will-O-Wisp if a Conkeldurr or Guts Heracross is on the opponent's team. Otherwise, feel free to use it to cripple opposing Pokemon.

Team Options
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Landorus-T forms a solid VoltTurn core with Rotom-W, being able to check most physical attackers in OU in tandem with each other. Scizor also can form a VoltTurn core, and has good defensive synergy with Rotom-W as well. Rotom-W appreciates teammates that can beat of Grass-types that would want to take advantage of Rotom-W. Celebi can beat Breloom, (RC) and Chesnaught, set up on Ferrothorn, and can check Mega Sceptile, thus making a good teammate. On the same token, Rotom-W is a team supporter, so Pokemon that are troubled by threats that Rotom-W checks, such as Mega Gallade and Mega Lopunny, are good teammates. Setup sweepers appreciate Rotom-W's ability to spread burns and bring them in safely with Volt Switch because it to makes securing setup opportunities easier. Pokemon that have issues finding safe setup opportunities, such as Examples include Swords Dance Talonflame and Swords Dance Diggersby, appreciate Rotom-W's capabilities.

Other Options
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Thunderbolt is stronger than Volt Switch if Rotom-W wants more power, but it Rotom-W does not have the space for it. However, the advantage of not forcing a switch allows Rotom-W to stay in against Water-types. Thunder Wave can help Rotom-W spread paralysis, but Will-O-Wisp is better overall, as it Will-O-Wisp allows it Rotom-W to cripple many of the Pokemon it switches into. A Choice Scarf set with Trick has a surprise factor to it, but it wastes Rotom-W's defensive capabilities, one of its key selling points behind its use. Alternatively, Rotom-W can run a specially defensive set that allows it to switch into Landorus, but it forgoes the physical bulk that it needs to stomach attacks from many of the Pokemon it is supposed to pivot into. At the cost of some bulk, Rotom-W can run a more offensive set with 220 HP / 128 SpA / 160 Spe EVs and Hidden Power Fire or Signal Beam that allows it to provide some offensive pressure and lure in Ferrothorn or Celebi, respectively. In a similar vein, a Choice Specs set can be used instead, which gives Rotom-W a chance to provide more pressure against balanced teams builds.

Checks and Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types can switch into Rotom-W and not take without taking much from its attacks, though some of them, such as Breloom and Mega Venusaur, dislike Will-O-Wisp. Celebi counters Rotom-W, not fearing Will-O-Wisp due to Natural Cure, and being is able to set up on it or force it out. Serperior can use Rotom-W as setup fodder, whereas Mega Sceptile gets a free Special Attack boost from Volt Switch due to Lightning Rod.
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**Fairy-types**: A number of Fairy-types, such as Magic Guard Clefable, Mega Gardevoir, and mixed or specially offensive Mega Altaria can prove to be troublesome for Rotom-W, as Rotom-W struggles to break through most of these Pokemon, whereas they possess the potential to break Rotom-W back.
**Dragon-types**: Rotom-W lacks the ability to pressure Latios and Latias outside of Will-O-Wisp, whereas they can wall it back. Mega Altaria can heal off Will-O-Wisp with Heal Bell or Refresh and proceed to set up on Rotom-W.
**Guts AbUsers**: Guts users, such as Heracross and Conkeldurr, can gain an Attack boost from Rotom-W's Will-O-Wisp. However, Heracross will get worn down very easily by Rotom-W's attacks. Conkeldurr, on the other hand, has the bulk to be able to stomach these attacks, (RC) and hit hard back.
**Specially Defensive Walls**: Specially bulky Pokemon like Chansey and Cresselia can wall Rotom-W and proceed it to cripple it with Toxic, which is crippling for Rotom-W due to wearing down its longetivity.

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Overview
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Rotom-W is a premier pivot in the OU metagame that is able to switch into a number of common Pokemon, such as Azumarill, Talonflame, and Landorus-T. Due to its access to Will-O-Wisp and sufficient defenses enabling it to pivot into a number of offensive threats, it is very easy to fit into a balanced or a slower-paced offensive team. However, Rotom-W has a low HP stat, and its lack of reliable recovery makes it easy for the opponent foe (opponent = opposing player, foe = their Pokémon; in this case it's the opposing Pokémon wearing Rotom-W down as opposed to the opposing player) to wear it down. In addition, there are a slew of Pokemon in OU that are capable of getting past Rotom-W through sheer power, specific coverage, or through other aspects.

Physically Defensive Pivot
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name: Physically Defensive Pivot
move 1: Volt Switch
move 2: Hydro Pump
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Pain Split / Rest
ability: Levitate
item: Leftovers / Chesto Berry
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
nature: Bold

Moves
========
Volt Switch is Rotom-W's Electric STAB move that allows it to regain momentum after pivoting into a threat. Hydro Pump is Rotom-W's secondary STAB that allows it to beat some of the Pokemon it checks, most notably Ground-types such as Landorus-T and Mamoswine, (AC) that which are immune to Volt Switch. Will-O-Wisp allows Rotom-W to inflict burns on the opponent foe and deter physical attackers. Pain Split can be used when Rotom-W's HP is low to regain some HP, but it tends to be very inconsistent overall due to being dependent on the opponent's foe's HP. Rest in tandem with Chesto Berry can be used instead, but the Chesto Berry only works once, whereas Pain Split can be used multiple times; it is best used if Rotom-W's team is weak to status.

Set Details
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248 HP EVs and 252 Defense EVs give Rotom-W close to maximum HP while allowing it to take less passive damage from Stealth Rock, status, etc. Leftovers is appreciated for its passive recovery, as Rotom-W gets worn down rather easily. However, if Rotom-W is running Rest, then Chesto Berry should be used instead. If outrunning particular threats is important, then 44 Speed EVs can be taken from Defense and put into Speed to outrun Jolly Azumarill so Rotom-W will be able to burn it after a Belly Drum, but Jolly Azumarill is not particularly common. Alternatively, 88 Speed EVs can be used to outspeed Jolly Crawdaunt, or 128 Speed EVs to outrun Adamant Bisharp, both at the cost of some bulk. A Bold nature allows Rotom-W to take physical attacks from Pokemon such as Azumarill and Mega Pinsir better. If some more special bulk is desired, Rotom-W can run a mixed defensive spread of 248 HP / 152 Def / 108 SpD to enable it to take hits from Mega Manectric, Landorus, Latios, and Latias much easier more easily.

Usage Tips
========
Rotom-W should be used to pivot into common Pokemon that it can check, such as Talonflame, Azumarill, Landorus-T, and Sand Rush Excadrill. However, do not let Rotom-W get worn down too much, as it needs to be healthy to handle many of the Pokemon whose attacks it does not resist. Use Volt Switch for scouting and gaining momentum, especially against threats that do not want to stay in on Rotom-W, such as Azumarill, Landorus-T, and Talonflame. Be careful when using Will-O-Wisp if a Conkeldurr or Guts Heracross is on the opponent's team. Otherwise, feel free to use it to cripple opposing Pokemon.

Team Options
========
Landorus-T forms a solid VoltTurn core with Rotom-W that is able to check most physical attackers in OU in tandem with each other. Scizor also can form a VoltTurn core, (RC) and has good defensive synergy with Rotom-W as well. Rotom-W appreciates teammates that can beat of Grass-types that would want to take advantage of Rotom-W. Celebi can beat Breloom and Chesnaught, set up on Ferrothorn, and can check Mega Sceptile, thus making a good teammate. On the same token, Rotom-W is a team supporter, so Pokemon that are troubled by threats that Rotom-W checks, such as Mega Gallade and Mega Lopunny, are good teammates. Setup sweepers appreciate Rotom-W's ability to spread burns and bring them in safely with Volt Switch to make securing set-(remove hyphen)up opportunities easier. Examples include Swords Dance Talonflame and Swords Dance Diggersby.

Other Options
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Thunderbolt is stronger than Volt Switch if Rotom-W wants more power, but Rotom-W does not have the space for it. However, the advantage of not forcing a switch allows Rotom-W to stay in against Water-types. Thunder Wave can help Rotom-W spread paralysis, but Will-O-Wisp is better overall, as Will-O-Wisp allows Rotom-W to cripple many of the Pokemon it switches into. A Choice Scarf set with Trick has a surprise factor, but wastes Rotom-W's defensive capabilities, one of its key selling points behind its use. Alternatively, Rotom-W can run a specially defensive set that allows it to switch into Landorus, but it forgoes the physical bulk that it needs to stomach attacks from many of the Pokemon it is supposed to pivot into. At the cost of some bulk, Rotom-W can run a more offensive set with 220 HP / 128 SpA / 160 Spe EVs and Hidden Power Fire or Signal Beam that allows it to provide some offensive pressure and lure in Ferrothorn or Celebi, respectively. In a similar vein, a Choice Specs set can be used instead, which gives Rotom-W a chance to provide more pressure against balanced teams.

Checks and Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types can switch into Rotom-W without taking much from its attack, though some of them, such as Breloom and Mega Venusaur, dislike Will-O-Wisp. Celebi counters Rotom-W, not fearing Will-O-Wisp due to Natural Cure, and being is able to set up on it or force it out. Serperior can use Rotom-W as setup fodder, whereas Mega Sceptile gets a free Special Attack boost from Volt Switch due to Lightning Rod.
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**Fairy-types**: A number of Fairy-(hyphen)types, such as Magic Guard Clefable, Mega Gardevoir, and mixed or specially offensive Mega Altaria can prove to be troublesome for Rotom-W, as Rotom-W struggles to break through most of these Pokemon, whereas they possess the potential to break Rotom-W back.
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**Dragon-types**: Rotom-W lacks the ability to pressure Latios and Latias outside of Will-O-Wisp, whereas they can wall it back. Mega Altaria can heal off Will-O-Wisp with Heal Bell or Refresh and proceed to set up on Rotom-W.
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**Guts Users**: Guts users, such as Heracross and Conkeldurr, can gain an Attack boost from Rotom-W's Will-O-Wisp. However, Heracross will get worn down very easily by Rotom-W's attacks. Conkeldurr, on the other hand, has the bulk to be able to stomach these attacks and hit hard back.
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**Specially Defensive Walls**: Specially bulky Pokemon like such as Chansey and Cresselia can wall Rotom-W and proceed it to cripple it with Toxic, which is crippling for Rotom-W.


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