I mean, if you want to, I guess. You can always build the team yourself, and still battle the other three
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The UnderUsed Teambuilding Workshop V2 (VOTING)
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Ok, so just quoting this to makes sure people do their battles, as none have appeared to be done yet. My apologies for the shaky and weird scheduling, I'm still working things out and seeing how I want to run this. Apologies if my continuous reminders is annoying and uncalled for, but I want to make sure this version of the project lifts off and stays unlike the last version. Again, my apologies for continuous tagging, I'm not trying to be obnoxious, really.
LilOu
PO poopyhead
It's cool, man. Cnorth and me will contact the other teams tomorrow morning.
Reminder that battles must be done at the end of the day. At this point, if you do one battle, you may get the activity win for the tourney anyway -_-. After this, voting also will start on Wednesday, and go to Friday, so teambuilders, be prepared to post your teams and a short description of the team.
Won vs Skankovich, gg
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-223513492
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-223513492
LilOu
PO poopyhead
Won vs. teal6, gg
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-223517724
Damn Moltres, best death fodder ever.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-223517724
Damn Moltres, best death fodder ever.
Ok, battling is over, with LilOuOn and Cnorth26 being the winners. Every person/group will have 1 vote, with the exception of the winners, which will have 2 together. Once the builders post their teams, and a short description, players may vote, with the winning team being put in the archive. Voting ends Friday.
Teal6 team really weak to hydra!
Ok ill just put the teams up now, and extend voting till Saturday
Vote for the team by bolding the teams name and posting it here. Any explanations wouldn't hurt too
Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance
Moltres @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Fire Blast
- Roost
- Will-O-Wisp
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Punch
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Dark Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
Florges (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Moonblast
- Protect
- Aromatherapy
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Roar
- Ice Beam
- Defog
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance
Moltres @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Fire Blast
- Roost
- Will-O-Wisp
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Punch
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Dark Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
Florges (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Moonblast
- Protect
- Aromatherapy
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Roar
- Ice Beam
- Defog
Doublade @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Taunt
- Roost
Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Rock Blast
- Roar
Rotom-Mow @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Leaf Storm
- Trick
Sharpedo @ Sharpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Protect
- Ice Fang
Mienshao @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge
- U-turn
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Taunt
- Roost
Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Rock Blast
- Roar
Rotom-Mow @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Leaf Storm
- Trick
Sharpedo @ Sharpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Protect
- Ice Fang
Mienshao @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge
- U-turn
Slowking @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Trick Room
- Nasty Plot
- Psyshock
- Scald
Pangoro @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Hammer Arm
- Knock Off
- Gunk Shot
Whimsicott @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Tailwind
- Giga Drain
- Moonblast
- U-turn
Nidoqueen (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 128 HP / 252 SpA / 128 Spe
Modest Nature
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
Tyrantrum @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Smash
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Crunch
Aerodactyl-Mega @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Roost
- Defog
- Aqua Tail!
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Trick Room
- Nasty Plot
- Psyshock
- Scald
Pangoro @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Hammer Arm
- Knock Off
- Gunk Shot
Whimsicott @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Tailwind
- Giga Drain
- Moonblast
- U-turn
Nidoqueen (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 128 HP / 252 SpA / 128 Spe
Modest Nature
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
Tyrantrum @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Smash
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Crunch
Aerodactyl-Mega @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Roost
- Defog
- Aqua Tail!
Vote for the team by bolding the teams name and posting it here. Any explanations wouldn't hurt too
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Christo The Gr8, Not Chris to :]
Fixed, sorry :(
I'm not sure if I can vote but if I can I would go with Skankovich and Lord of Bays. Teams based on speed control strike a special place in my heart and it's really cool to see a team that utilizes both Tailwind and Trick Room in a way that doesn't seem detrimental. Awesome idea which I'll probably be playing around with in the future. All the teams seem solid on paper as well so it was a tough choice. On the bright side, I have 3 new teams to add my to collection hehe.
I'm also going to second Lord of Bays and Skankovich. Tailwind+Trick Room is a really innovative method of getting your wincons to the places they need to get, and overall the team looks really threatening, especially with that monstrous Tyrantrum (btw idk if i can vote but js)
LilOu
PO poopyhead
Wow, Yabo betraying his own core and robin winner smh.
Stone RG
Megas are broke
Going for LilOu and Cnorth's Toxicroak + Moltres. The team itself is really solid and does very well vs. the current metagame, which is a huge boost when choosing one of the three teams. The only problem I see with the team is the awful weakness vs. Nidoqueen lmfao, but nothing that can't be solved with good predictions, as Cnorth showed in his battle vs. the Pangoro+Slowking Tailwind Trickroom team that everyone is hyping so much, which is also why I have been hesitant about voting for Skankovich and Lord of Bays team. Sure, it looks like a cool squad, but TR isn't really good in this metagame, and it actually played against its own team when Cnorth's Florges ended up sweeping thanks to it. (I'm not even taking into account the fact that Moltres would have eaten alive Skankovich's entire team if Hurricane wouldn't have missed)
So yeah, good job Lil and Cnorth, I like the team a lot and probably stealing it even though I don't ladder so much anymore.
So yeah, good job Lil and Cnorth, I like the team a lot and probably stealing it even though I don't ladder so much anymore.
Nice Lightning Rod Rhyperior, teal6 and Christo The Gr8 :P
I like all three teams. The Moltres/Toxicroak team seems like the most solid, but would need some rejiggering to deal with the Nido weakness. The Doublade/Hydreigon team is solid af with the VoltTurn core of Mowtom and Shao to back it up, but struggles against any strong Special Attackers - in addition to the issue with Drei, I feel like the team will have trouble with Shadow Ball Alakazam and, again, Nidoqueen. Even Pidgeot will wear down Rhyperior quickly with no Wish support, and both Pidgeot and Zam outspeed everything but Shao. The TW/TR team shows the most innovative team building, but seems pretty matchup based.
I guess I'll go on the strength of the replays and vote for LilOuOn and Cnorth, although all three teams look really solid and with a bit of fiddling could find their way into my cache of teams.
I like all three teams. The Moltres/Toxicroak team seems like the most solid, but would need some rejiggering to deal with the Nido weakness. The Doublade/Hydreigon team is solid af with the VoltTurn core of Mowtom and Shao to back it up, but struggles against any strong Special Attackers - in addition to the issue with Drei, I feel like the team will have trouble with Shadow Ball Alakazam and, again, Nidoqueen. Even Pidgeot will wear down Rhyperior quickly with no Wish support, and both Pidgeot and Zam outspeed everything but Shao. The TW/TR team shows the most innovative team building, but seems pretty matchup based.
I guess I'll go on the strength of the replays and vote for LilOuOn and Cnorth, although all three teams look really solid and with a bit of fiddling could find their way into my cache of teams.
Thanks for the votes all! I'm sorry my poor actual-playing skills let us down when it came to the match itself, but I'll explain the teambuilding process me and Lord of Bays went through.
Starting with Slowking and Pangoro, we first went with Whimsicott noting both the synergy defensively with slowking and also its access to tailwind, which allowed multiple ways for pangoro to get the upper-hand on other teams and also provided a clutch answer to out-of-hand sweepers in lieu with Whim's prankster. From there, we added what was initially a Rock Polish Tyrantrum, who could take advantage of flying types like crobat that force out panda and clean up, although we later went with Band because balky mons caused issues.
The rest kind of flowed from there, we had a big fairy weakness and needed rocks, so Nidoqueen was as splashable as ever while also being able to really tear shit up under tailwind, and trick room if facing speedy offence. We then needed a fast mon to check stuff and possibly defog support, so Mega Aero was an easy mon to add, although considering the team doesn't really care that much about rocks and has queen to absorb tspikes, defog might not have been 100% necessary.
I think the team could definitely still use a little tweaking here and there (moltres like, singlehandedly destroyed our team lol) but the core tailwind+trick room combo is difficult for a lot of teams to handle, and prankster tailwind in general is just so so useful and underused on the mons that have access to it (Tailwind Tornadus is a monster).
Starting with Slowking and Pangoro, we first went with Whimsicott noting both the synergy defensively with slowking and also its access to tailwind, which allowed multiple ways for pangoro to get the upper-hand on other teams and also provided a clutch answer to out-of-hand sweepers in lieu with Whim's prankster. From there, we added what was initially a Rock Polish Tyrantrum, who could take advantage of flying types like crobat that force out panda and clean up, although we later went with Band because balky mons caused issues.
The rest kind of flowed from there, we had a big fairy weakness and needed rocks, so Nidoqueen was as splashable as ever while also being able to really tear shit up under tailwind, and trick room if facing speedy offence. We then needed a fast mon to check stuff and possibly defog support, so Mega Aero was an easy mon to add, although considering the team doesn't really care that much about rocks and has queen to absorb tspikes, defog might not have been 100% necessary.
I think the team could definitely still use a little tweaking here and there (moltres like, singlehandedly destroyed our team lol) but the core tailwind+trick room combo is difficult for a lot of teams to handle, and prankster tailwind in general is just so so useful and underused on the mons that have access to it (Tailwind Tornadus is a monster).
Sorry for the delay, I was really tired yesterday :P
Anyways, LilOuOn and Cnorth26 win this round!
Cnorth26 and LilOuOn Moltres + Toxicroak team
Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance
Moltres @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Fire Blast
- Roost
- Will-O-Wisp
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Punch
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Dark Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
Florges (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Moonblast
- Protect
- Aromatherapy
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Roar
- Ice Beam
- Defog
Anyways, LilOuOn and Cnorth26 win this round!
Cnorth26 and LilOuOn Moltres + Toxicroak team
Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance
Moltres @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Fire Blast
- Roost
- Will-O-Wisp
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Punch
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Dark Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
Florges (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Moonblast
- Protect
- Aromatherapy
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Roar
- Ice Beam
- Defog
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