This is nice stuff. That Hydreigon set can help CLC players because people don't really know how to use Hydreigon in Inh. Though can you explain the EV spread in Hydreigon?
The evs are to outspeed positive max base 145, guaranteed 2HKO Blissey with Superpower, and do a good chunk of damage to Chansey.
I completely understand what you're saying here. You can basically slap Protean on anything with decent stats and you can deal a lot of damage. You don't need to worry about typing because everything is STAB. It doesn't really have any major drawbacks. But I can't help but wonder. So what?
I'm going to have to disagree here as well. As you yourself said, most donors don't announce themselves. But basically the only donors that do are Xerneas, Kyogre-Primal, Groudon-Primal, Mega Rayquaza, Genesect and Yellowmetal(Or however you spell it. The Xerneas counterpart). I find it hard to believe that any of those are more dangerous than something carrying Adaptability, Tough Claws, Mega Launcher, Unburden, Refrigerate, Gale Wings, Aerilate, Pixilate or any of the various other abilities in the meta.
Note though that while scizor can inherit from gene, it is probably better off using metagross instead since tough claws boost and the lack of technician boosted stabs. Tough claws Megagross Iron Head hits harder than Scizor Metal Claw (idk if gene gets metal claw but w/e). Using hasty is a huge downfall as well meaning lant easily revenges you if you don't run espeed, and megagross has tough claws espeed to work with as well.
Actually a nice set, since sucker punch gives it powerful priority, and +2 stabs hurt like crazy while sucker punch still hits quite hard. Intimidate has great utility as well and magic bounce makes it harder for stall to handle (although they don't have too hard a time with this in general). Neat set.
The rotom-w set looks pretty good, since although it may be a bit niche at first, volt switch can give valuable momentum meaning this can fit on more offensive teams. Eliminating/countering cune is huge in this meta for offensive/balanced teams and this is a good example of a reliable way to handle it.
Genesect does get Download, so if you get lucky and nab the boost, it hits harder than Tough Claws. It can amount to nothing, but you can usually tell whether something is a physical or special wall through experience or doing /dt if it is an offensive Pokemon (and thus likely not def invested).
Genesect does get a move called Metal bomb, 60 base power with -- accuracy
*Magnet Bomb :>
Looks nice i didn't even know eel could get d.pulse i know it got d.claw but not pulse
Part of my point, that I was maybe not explicit enough on, is that Protean completely kills the idea of a counter and seriously impacts the idea of a check to the specific Pokemon. There are sets that will hard-stop and kill literally any remotely viable Landorus-Therian set -except a Protean one. While you can say this about individual sets for individual Pokemon countering individual Pokemon, as far as I'm aware Protean is the only Ability/Protean donors are the only donors that do this nearly universally, for any Pokemon against any check or counter you care to name.
It's Yveltal.
Like I said, I'm on the fence myself, because it's definitely very good but very good is not necessarily broken. My concern is that Protean does a surprising number of things, all at the same time, that no other Ability does -it extends your Pokemon's life, it makes their damage more consistently high, it provides spontaneous immunity to problematic conditions, and it allows you to maneuver your Pokemon like with a switch, with none of the costs of a switch.
Less predictable whereas hax can really only do one thing.
Protean Lando-T is primarily a lure vs its answers. That and it has higher Special Attack, which can matter if you need to smack something with a special move or something.
basically this, landorus T can reliably beat its would be counter water absorb diancie without relying on...iron tail of all things(hp steel). lmao. hax only has 6 more speed, and 3 more attack, meanwhile landorus has a entire list of false counters itching to be sent in on it to die. ive tried protean haxorus, but then i switched to landorus for those two reasons.
I tried it, the problem with it is that a(Landot doesn't care about ignoring its Water weakness, and Glalie probably kills anyway, and b(if you use it you can't use other Landos. Gale Landot does as much damage.
As per gen 6 mechanics, it becomes Normal-type. Interesting set overall, I'd complain about Hurricane's shaky accuracy, but I suppose having Hurricane as your STAB is better than having no STAB at all.
lets also not forget its the strongest espeeder factoring in life orb+adapt while not taking up a valuable mega slot. which is huge considering the best espeeder competition it has are all megas which means they can invest in a non espeeder mega if they desire. or they can run pinsir with it, to create a powerful espeed core that many teams have difficulty with.I'd like to nominate Ursaring to B-/B rank with Mega Lucario and Linoone as donors.
Ursaring @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Close Combat
- Crunch / Agility
- Swords Dance
Ursaring @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pickup
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Belly Drum
- ExtremeSpeed
- Substitute / Shadow Claw
- Seed Bomb
Ursaring has the highest attack of any Normal type that isn't banned or a mega, hitting a whooping 394 attack stat. In this meta, having strong priority is a must, and the power Ursaring can dish out with a 80 BP move is pretty nice.
252+ Atk Pixilate Mega Altaria Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 166-196 (48.6 - 57.4%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Refrigerate Mega Glalie Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 177-208 (51.9 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Ursaring Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 187-222 (54.8 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 213-252 (62.4 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That's insane. It outdamages Mega Glalie and Mega Altaria, and is pretty close to Mega Pinsir's damage output. Though if you want to factor in Adaptability with the SD set, you have this a damage output very close to LO Refrigerate Weavile's Return.
So it hits super hard, next lets get to the sets. The first one being an SD set inheriting from Mega Lucario, gives it Adaptability, which ups its priority's power even more. Close Combat is to hit the plenty of Steel and Rock types in the tier, as well as slow bulky Normals. SD is SD, increasing Ursaring's sweeping potential. Finally, Crunch can be used to hit Ghost types, which would otherwise wall you, while Agility, which seems like a weird option on a set when you have Extreme Speed as your main move, but this allows you to out prioritize the other E-Speeders, mainly Pinsir and Glalie.
Secondly the Belly Drum set is mainly what comes to mind when you see Ursaring in Inheritance. Everything you see is what you would expect, with Substitute being an option to dodge status and/or get up a safe Belly Drum, but Shadow Claw can be used if you have trouble with Ghosts.
But Ursaring isn't without faults, it has pretty bad bulk, so whatever can live a boosted Extreme Speed can probably revenge it(though that isn't a lot). Plus with its low speed, it is often out prioritized by the other E-Speeders in the tier without Agility, which can be hard to pull off with its low bulk. It has a hard time setting up vs. Offense, and status can cripple it if it doesn't have Sub, and tbh it's kinda ugly.
But I'm not advocating for the new S rank, just B- or B, as while Ursaring has flaws, it still can be a nightmare to unprepared teams, and can be hard to build for, so I feel it should be in the upper rankings.
One of the main reasons to run Shadow Claw is to hit most Steels neutrally, as well as the main defensive wall (Doublade) for SE damage. It is a really powerful Extremespeeder that both doesn't take up your Mega slot and actually hits harder than the Megas due to LO+Adapt or after a Belly Drum. I agree with B Rank for it.I'd like to nominate Ursaring to B-/B rank with Mega Lucario and Linoone as donors.
Ursaring @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Close Combat
- Crunch / Agility
- Swords Dance
Ursaring @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pickup
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Belly Drum
- ExtremeSpeed
- Substitute / Shadow Claw
- Seed Bomb
Ursaring has the highest attack of any Normal type that isn't banned or a mega, hitting a whooping 394 attack stat. In this meta, having strong priority is a must, and the power Ursaring can dish out with a 80 BP move is pretty nice.
252+ Atk Pixilate Mega Altaria Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 166-196 (48.6 - 57.4%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Refrigerate Mega Glalie Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 177-208 (51.9 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Ursaring Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 187-222 (54.8 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 213-252 (62.4 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That's insane. It outdamages Mega Glalie and Mega Altaria, and is pretty close to Mega Pinsir's damage output. Though if you want to factor in Adaptability with the SD set, you have this a damage output very close to LO Refrigerate Weavile's Return.
So it hits super hard, next lets get to the sets. The first one being an SD set inheriting from Mega Lucario, gives it Adaptability, which ups its priority's power even more. Close Combat is to hit the plenty of Steel and Rock types in the tier, as well as slow bulky Normals. SD is SD, increasing Ursaring's sweeping potential. Finally, Crunch can be used to hit Ghost types, which would otherwise wall you, while Agility, which seems like a weird option on a set when you have Extreme Speed as your main move, but this allows you to out prioritize the other E-Speeders, mainly Pinsir and Glalie.
Secondly the Belly Drum set is mainly what comes to mind when you see Ursaring in Inheritance. Everything you see is what you would expect, with Substitute being an option to dodge status and/or get up a safe Belly Drum, but Shadow Claw can be used if you have trouble with Ghosts.
But Ursaring isn't without faults, it has pretty bad bulk, so whatever can live a boosted Extreme Speed can probably revenge it(though that isn't a lot). Plus with its low speed, it is often out prioritized by the other E-Speeders in the tier without Agility, which can be hard to pull off with its low bulk. It has a hard time setting up vs. Offense, and status can cripple it if it doesn't have Sub, and tbh it's kinda ugly.
But I'm not advocating for the new S rank, just B- or B, as while Ursaring has flaws, it still can be a nightmare to unprepared teams, and can be hard to build for, so I feel it should be in the upper rankings.
to be honest, i question why you don't use something with a bit more offensive capability like...terrakion/raikou,or heck, even jolteon. they are able to threaten defensive pokemon considerably even with the vest being tricked away via high jump kick/boltbeam. and can lure plenty of pokemon that your team could potentially want crippled like doublade/aegislash/chansey, and its not a sitting duck vs offense. ninjask might be fast...but what do you intend to outspeed? well, i guess encorepass is a reason, but otherwise, id imagine using something more offensive could be helpful or just flat out better. doesn't help that the most common setup sweepers have a way around encore with STAB priority lmao, but hey, if it works, it works.
That's probably a better idea, honestly - I just used Ninjask since it's got the highest base speed in the metagame. My set's more of a theorymon - i haven't played too many games with it, just enough to see if it could actually do its job decently. Which it sort of did, albeit without much longevity.
