Mamoswine shouldn't impact M-Snow IMO. The fact that Obamasnow gets SD + Grass STAB to slay Waters is something Mamo can only dream of having. Also, Obama gets EQ so all Mamo has over it is STAB EQ, neutral to rocks, and isn't a Mega (which is why M-Snow shouldn't impact Mamoswine either)
I can see it Sitting around B+/B rank. It's not stupidly powerful and it's move pool is somewhat limited, but it's going to be a very bendable defogger and STAB Knock off user. Honchkrow's got it beat on aggression, but Mandi'z totally got Krow beat in a defensive support role.
Well I wouldnt say those are the only things but yeah sd is a great advantage. Mamo can run an item. Mamo's lo ice shard hits harder than Abomasnow. Endever is great. Mamo can live a fire attack and isnt walled by rotom heat or brongzong. You can also run SR.
I didn't include the item aspect since I prefer SD over being able to hold a Life Orb, but you're right that the immediate power is better in many cases. However, I wouldn't consider Endeavor to be an advantage since Endeavor is typically seen on suicide leads, which means Mamo is not fulfilling the same offensive role as Abomasnow would.
Agreed. Still want to see if people will be running snow cloak at all. Im going to try it out soon.
It was suggested that we discuss how we think the likes of mamo and mandibuzz will do in uu on the previous page so its fine that we are speculating.
Gallade has niches so dont count it out just yet
Gallade was available to UU all of XY and no one really used it as it was just a poor choice of a fighting type in all honesty it will be even less used now that it has to compete with medicham for a fighting psychic type. Hell AV Machamp is now a much more popular set making gallade's AV set outclassed overall I can't see this mon getting above C hell I would be surprised if it was C.
Yes, AV is awful, but Gallade has a sets of niches:
With options like this I could see Gallade being C+ or B at best.
None of these sets would even be good though lol Medicham does the same shit with the exception of sub bulk up and that set sounds really bad when I can't fathom a reason to run that over SD hera. The fact is Gallade isn't like mandibuzz or mamo it is not new to the tier we had it before we know what it wants to do here if it is used at all and it is just so outclassed in the UU metagame to the point where there is no real reason to use him over other fighting types. If you want support moves I promise UU has a lot more to offer than Gallade, having mediocre support moves does not mean Gallade can use them well enough to have a solid niche in the tier.
Gallade only has one set that's worth using: Sub + BU. Any other set is completely outclassed by every other fighting-type. Want a scarf user? Use Heracross or Mienshao. Want a band user? Use Heracross or Machamp. I don't see why you would run Trick on Gallade anyway, it has relatively good coverage moves. Trick just seems like a waste. If you want to use a fighting-type mon with a psychic STAB (although I don't see why you would, because you could just run EQ Hera and be done with it) you should just use Medicham, which hits the same speed tier and hits way harder than Gallade does- Gallade only hits 383 attack with 252+ EVs, while Medicham hits 480 attack with the same EVs. The only niche IMO gallade has over Medicham is the fact that it gets a lot more bulk and has access to a relatively unique Sub + BU set.
Medicham is lacking the good versatility, and by that i mean, it has other sets & possible coverage, but they kinda sucks, so you always know it's pretty choiced or maybe LO, but nothing else, it also lacks any kind of, did i mention Medicham doesn't even have Knock Off .
how does Medicham lack coverage ?_? shit gets access to the elemental punches and fighting psycic stab has generally good coverage in itself that part of your response literally made 0 sense. The sub bulk up set is going to be extremely niche as offense is an extremely powerful playstyle right now and with sub bulk up gallade is going to have to run bulk making it extremely slow and with the god aweful hp and defense it has I honestly don't see it doing anything. No way it should make it past C.
With dat base 68 HP :], creative, but not very practical.
I have used plenty of Gallade in the past and it only really works in a bulky meta however this tier is so offensive right now it is ridiculous, Gallade will rarely find a place on any team because it just folds to offense. Also I was comparing the two because they both are meant to setup and break stall/walls however hera is much better since it has immediate power and can handle bulky psychic types which are finding their way onto more and more teams. Gallade is just so bad like the sub bulk up set is meant to setup on walls but it is way too easy to switch into and/or revenge kill that the set is useless. Bulky psychics beat it, Granbull beats it, florges/aromatisse, crobat, etc. all of which are very common on balance or stall meaning Gallade usually fails against those teams as well.
