Guys, I was discussing a few things on IRC and we feel something needs to be done about our current way of treating past Gym Leaders.
The concern mainly is that past Gym leaders who have been Gym Leaders for a considerable amount of time, and / or have been exceptionally good as Gym Leaders, but had to step down due to irl requirements or issues, should retain their Gym Badges at the very least.
I mean, they deserve it folks (Especially the ones who have contributed to the community extensively). It is a mark of respect that they were a successful Gym Leader once and we should remember them by it.
So I am proposing three things:
P.s: Please consider this for a whole minute before shooting it down :/ (That is, if you are going to do it anyway.)
[15:06] <Gale> I was thinking we need an Old Gym Leaders Hall of fame or something to keep the records
[15:06] <Gale> Like just a post in Gym League Thread
[15:06] <Gale> May be when we make a new one
[15:07] <Gale> Like not the small one or two battle records
[15:07] <Gale> But those Gym Leaders who have been around for a while, like an year or so
[15:08] <Gale> Kind of like a tribute to past Gym Leaders
[15:08] * Texas (~Texas@Texas.Smogon) Quit (Ping timeout: 183 seconds)
[15:08] <Gale> Pwnemon and Texas fall into that category I think
[15:09] <Gale> Will probably post about it when we are planning a new thread for the Gym League
[15:10] <Gale> Or may be have a separate ASB History thread
[15:10] <Frosty> you should probably bring it up now. Decision about previous gym leaders should probably be made, especially regarding if they get to keep their badges. Previous gym leaders removed from their positions lost the respective badges and I personally find that to be too restrictive.
[15:10] <Frosty> being forced to be forever a leader is iffy
[15:11] <Rainman_Legends> Wait really? .-.
[15:11] <Gale> That is sad man :/
[15:11] <Frosty> that is precedent yeah
[15:11] <Gale> Cool let me put up a post in the Gym Feedback
[15:11] <Rainman_Legends> So if I theoretically got flying gym, then take a hiatus, and have to leave, I don't get flying badge anymore?
[15:11] <Gale> Although, my record for getting shot down is pretty high
[15:12] <Frosty> atheno, jas, comp, kaxtar and many others lost their badges
[15:12] <Rainman_Legends> And I have to give up whatever reward I get for that badge level?
[15:12] <Gale> If you retire as a Gym Leader then you may not retain them I think
[15:12] <Rainman_Legends> Wtf, that's some new levels of bullshit
[15:12] <Frosty> the prize isn't affected. You just lose the badge
[15:12] <Frosty> I had to challenge and win vs pwnemon or I was risking losing the grass badge I got from winning qualifiers
[15:13] <Frosty> vs pwne
[15:13] <Frosty> -_-
[15:13] <Frosty> the issue is that qualifiers bypass the regular gym queue, so maybe not winning a badge forever if you beat them is justifiable
[15:13] <Rainman_Legends> Can we like change this seriously
[15:13] <Frosty> but I don't feel that is logical if you defend your badge for a long time
[15:14] <Rainman_Legends> I think winning quals good enough to keep your badge
[15:14] <Frosty> leet lost his badge too
[15:14] <Rainman_Legends> Well leet went mia for like 9 months
[12:14] <Frosty> the ones I listed above left for good .-.
[15:16] <Frosty> Full list is: Korski, Lou, Kaxtar, Orcinus duo, Jas, Leethoof, C$FP, Complications, Athenodoros
[15:17] <Frosty> All bar leet left
[15:17] <Rainman_Legends> I still feel they should've kept their badges :/
[15:17] <Frosty> I agree <_<
[15:18] <Frosty> just saying that if going on hiatus is an argument, it applies to all
[15:18] <Frosty> Pwne, Objection and Tex now will probably join those ranks.
[15:18] <Rainman_Legends> Objection won quals then went mia right?
[15:19] <Frosty> I feel some ruling needs to be done about them (and the previous ones). Specially since I feel at least Tex may not leave entirely forever.
[15:19] <Frosty> he didn't "win" per se. More like "was the one contestant"
[15:19] <Rainman_Legends> Tex vs aops for dragon iirc?
[15:20] <Frosty> I meant obj
[15:20] <Rainman_Legends> Oh lol
[15:20] <Rainman_Legends> Wait there was seriously no other competition?
[15:20] <Rainman_Legends> Man I should've joined earlier lmfao
[15:06] <Gale> Like just a post in Gym League Thread
[15:06] <Gale> May be when we make a new one
[15:07] <Gale> Like not the small one or two battle records
[15:07] <Gale> But those Gym Leaders who have been around for a while, like an year or so
[15:08] <Gale> Kind of like a tribute to past Gym Leaders
[15:08] * Texas (~Texas@Texas.Smogon) Quit (Ping timeout: 183 seconds)
[15:08] <Gale> Pwnemon and Texas fall into that category I think
[15:09] <Gale> Will probably post about it when we are planning a new thread for the Gym League
[15:10] <Gale> Or may be have a separate ASB History thread
[15:10] <Frosty> you should probably bring it up now. Decision about previous gym leaders should probably be made, especially regarding if they get to keep their badges. Previous gym leaders removed from their positions lost the respective badges and I personally find that to be too restrictive.
[15:10] <Frosty> being forced to be forever a leader is iffy
[15:11] <Rainman_Legends> Wait really? .-.
[15:11] <Gale> That is sad man :/
[15:11] <Frosty> that is precedent yeah
[15:11] <Gale> Cool let me put up a post in the Gym Feedback
[15:11] <Rainman_Legends> So if I theoretically got flying gym, then take a hiatus, and have to leave, I don't get flying badge anymore?
[15:11] <Gale> Although, my record for getting shot down is pretty high
[15:12] <Frosty> atheno, jas, comp, kaxtar and many others lost their badges
[15:12] <Rainman_Legends> And I have to give up whatever reward I get for that badge level?
[15:12] <Gale> If you retire as a Gym Leader then you may not retain them I think
[15:12] <Rainman_Legends> Wtf, that's some new levels of bullshit
[15:12] <Frosty> the prize isn't affected. You just lose the badge
[15:12] <Frosty> I had to challenge and win vs pwnemon or I was risking losing the grass badge I got from winning qualifiers
[15:13] <Frosty> vs pwne
[15:13] <Frosty> -_-
[15:13] <Frosty> the issue is that qualifiers bypass the regular gym queue, so maybe not winning a badge forever if you beat them is justifiable
[15:13] <Rainman_Legends> Can we like change this seriously
[15:13] <Frosty> but I don't feel that is logical if you defend your badge for a long time
[15:14] <Rainman_Legends> I think winning quals good enough to keep your badge
[15:14] <Frosty> leet lost his badge too
[15:14] <Rainman_Legends> Well leet went mia for like 9 months
[12:14] <Frosty> the ones I listed above left for good .-.
[15:16] <Frosty> Full list is: Korski, Lou, Kaxtar, Orcinus duo, Jas, Leethoof, C$FP, Complications, Athenodoros
[15:17] <Frosty> All bar leet left
[15:17] <Rainman_Legends> I still feel they should've kept their badges :/
[15:17] <Frosty> I agree <_<
[15:18] <Frosty> just saying that if going on hiatus is an argument, it applies to all
[15:18] <Frosty> Pwne, Objection and Tex now will probably join those ranks.
[15:18] <Rainman_Legends> Objection won quals then went mia right?
[15:19] <Frosty> I feel some ruling needs to be done about them (and the previous ones). Specially since I feel at least Tex may not leave entirely forever.
[15:19] <Frosty> he didn't "win" per se. More like "was the one contestant"
[15:19] <Rainman_Legends> Tex vs aops for dragon iirc?
[15:20] <Frosty> I meant obj
[15:20] <Rainman_Legends> Oh lol
[15:20] <Rainman_Legends> Wait there was seriously no other competition?
[15:20] <Rainman_Legends> Man I should've joined earlier lmfao
I mean, they deserve it folks (Especially the ones who have contributed to the community extensively). It is a mark of respect that they were a successful Gym Leader once and we should remember them by it.
So I am proposing three things:
- We allow past Gym Leaders to retain their badges. [We need this please]
- We maintain a record of their W/L Ratio, Arena details and Sprites as a legacy of past Gym Leaders. (Probably a post in the Gym League thread).
- We could put (2) on a new thread along with rest of ASB's history like Past Council Members, Past Moderators and stuff like that. [This one is optional and least priority]
P.s: Please consider this for a whole minute before shooting it down :/ (That is, if you are going to do it anyway.)