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Mafia vs Village vs Another Village http://www.health350.com/curvy-bUSisSaltyt-cream/ Mafia - GAME OVER BUSTY WIN
- Thread starter LightWolf
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keep spamming f5, we'll see soon
also we need to remember that LW is but a mere cohost serving the overlord travisscrissman
also we need to remember that LW is but a mere cohost serving the overlord travisscrissman
Oh and rather than wasting any more time on this game here's a couple logs that more or less explain a few of the MANY problems with this game
Yay for playing horribly meaning you win, this way everyone's a winner!
[15:40] <UncleSam> just checking but
[15:40] <UncleSam> you changed the silence
[15:40] <UncleSam> right
[15:40] <LightWolf> yeah
[15:40] <UncleSam> also is game over
[15:40] <UncleSam> and di i lose
[15:40] <LightWolf> yes
[15:40] <LightWolf> yes
[15:40] <UncleSam> zz
[15:40] <LightWolf> if anyone but busty is lynched
[15:40] <LightWolf> you guys would have won
[15:40] <UncleSam> ?
[15:41] <UncleSam> how
[15:41] <UncleSam> this game makes no sense
[15:41] <LightWolf> lynching yourself gives you guys enough weapons to just on that win the game
[15:41] <UncleSam> how does finland dying
[15:41] <UncleSam> fuck me over
[15:41] <UncleSam> wtf
[15:41] <LightWolf> and that's without the CORNERED BEAST BONUS
[15:42] <UncleSam> is that more than just a kill
[15:42] <LightWolf> oh you guys if cornered first
[15:42] <UncleSam> im sorry but not being able to predict
[15:42] <UncleSam> what people get
[15:42] <UncleSam> is so dumb
[15:42] <LightWolf> would have gotten all your full powered roles back
[15:42] <LightWolf> and a little bonus that you lostto
[15:42] <UncleSam> thats so fucking stupid
[15:42] <LightWolf> you didn't need to predict it
[15:42] <LightWolf> you should have played it safe
[15:43] <UncleSam> i DID play it safe
[15:43] <LightWolf> your faction is easily able to wipe out a whole faction
[15:43] <UncleSam> i took out the redirector
[15:43] <LightWolf> withyour bonus kills
[15:43] <UncleSam> that was by far the most dangerous role
[15:43] <LightWolf> which I still don't get why you feared
[15:43] <UncleSam> that i couldve reasonably been aware of
[15:43] <LightWolf> when your Safeguard is the most OP tihng in the game
[15:43] <UncleSam> how was i supposed to know
[15:43] <UncleSam> safeguard blocks it
[15:43] <UncleSam> it never once successfully blocked it
[15:43] <UncleSam> if i had known then ya
[15:43] <UncleSam> id have just tied the lynch
[15:43] <UncleSam> or apparently wouldvel ynched bill
[15:44] <UncleSam> because lol cornered beast makes killing yourself preferable
[15:44] <LightWolf> ignoring cornered beast
[15:44] <LightWolf> jsut by having 3 kills this night
[15:44] <LightWolf> from losing bill
[15:44] <UncleSam> i still dont get
[15:44] <UncleSam> how
[15:44] <LightWolf> +hook + kidnap
[15:44] <UncleSam> we lose
[15:44] <LightWolf> you could lock up the whole game
[15:44] <UncleSam> like we had kills on
[15:44] <UncleSam> everyone
[15:44] <UncleSam> and hook on barry
[15:44] <LightWolf> well simple
[15:44] <LightWolf> the nature of the cornerede beast
[15:44] <LightWolf> is why
[15:44] <UncleSam> thats retarded
[15:44] <LightWolf> which you would have gotten too
[15:45] <UncleSam> i have no way to predict that
[15:45] <LightWolf> you didn't need to predict what it is
[15:45] <UncleSam> i hav eno way to predict
[15:45] <LightWolf> the rules clearly state the cornered beast is the most dangerous
[15:45] <UncleSam> that cornered beast will trump a hook
[15:45] <UncleSam> ya ok theres most dangerous
[15:45] <UncleSam> and theres ridiculously fucking op
[15:45] <UncleSam> that i cant do shit about
[15:45] <UncleSam> thats two way different things
[15:45] <LightWolf> yes you can
[15:45] <LightWolf> avoid triggering it
[15:45] <UncleSam> thats really stupid
[15:45] <UncleSam> im sorry
[15:46] <LightWolf> your faction was set up to easily avoid that by killing two people at once
[15:46] <UncleSam> ya well you shouldve told us
[15:46] <LightWolf> the main reason you really lost
[15:46] <UncleSam> to do that then
[15:46] <LightWolf> is that somehow curvy were tricked into thinking agape was wolf
[15:46] <LightWolf> otherwise ou guys would have been lynched
[15:46] <UncleSam> curvy are retarded
[15:46] <LightWolf> and won
[15:46] <UncleSam> did curvy lose
[15:46] <UncleSam> or win
[15:46] <LightWolf> yeah DLE was their brains
[15:47] <UncleSam> thats fucking
[15:47] <LightWolf> they lost
[15:47] <UncleSam> retarded
[15:47] <LightWolf> because they didn1t kill agape
[15:47] <LightWolf> they killed bill
[15:47] <UncleSam> ok?
[15:47] <LightWolf> another missplay
[15:47] <UncleSam> so kill failed
[15:47] <LightWolf> no
[15:47] <UncleSam> why wouldnt they kill bill
[15:47] <UncleSam> i was bging bill
[15:47] <UncleSam> with safeguard on me
[15:47] <LightWolf> you were instagibbed
[15:47] <UncleSam> so the kill on bill didnt work
[15:47] <UncleSam> what does that
[15:47] <UncleSam> even mean
[15:48] <LightWolf> super prio kill from the cornered beast
[15:48] <LightWolf> that's it's nature
[15:48] <LightWolf> you'd have gotten that too
[15:48] <UncleSam> right more
[15:48] <UncleSam> counterplayless shit
[15:48] <UncleSam> that i cant predict
[15:48] <UncleSam> by any reasonable measure
[15:48] <LightWolf> you can predict it
[15:48] <UncleSam> im sorry but this game
[15:48] <LightWolf> it doesn't matter
[15:48] <UncleSam> was horribly designed
[15:48] <LightWolf> what the cornered beast gets
[15:48] <LightWolf> you knew shit like that was coming
[15:48] <LightWolf> you should have avoided it
[15:49] <UncleSam> no
[15:49] <UncleSam> i cant reasonably know
[15:49] <UncleSam> that everything up until now
[15:49] <UncleSam> will be made useless
[15:49] <UncleSam> because when the village gets down to one person
[15:50] <UncleSam> they just infinite prio kill someone
[15:50] <LightWolf> you just jumped at the chance to get someone not you lynched and were worrying about a redirect that you really should have expected not to affect you, especially after NO REDIRECT HAPPENING when finland was kidnapped
[15:50] <LightWolf> yes
[15:50] <LightWolf> they infinite prio kill SOMEONE
[15:50] <LightWolf> you would would have infinite prio killed 3 people
[15:50] <LightWolf> oh noes mafia so UP
[15:50] <LightWolf> has a single safeguard that protects nearly all their actions that no one but their old kidnap could beat
[15:51] <UncleSam> ya mafia had no chance
[15:51] <UncleSam> itg
[15:51] <UncleSam> unless they played horribly
[15:51] <UncleSam> and got fucked
[15:51] <UncleSam> and then they win
[15:51] <UncleSam> so retarded
[15:51] <LightWolf> you have no idea what you are talking about
[15:51] <LightWolf> you have a single role
[15:52] <LightWolf> that completely screwsy over everything the busty could gain
[15:52] <UncleSam> except for the fact that they can completely destroy us
[15:52] <UncleSam> if they get to one person first
[15:53] <LightWolf> for every member you lose you kill a villager nearly guaranteed minus the busty mass hook that actually only saved curvy
[15:53] <UncleSam> like why is getting to one person first the win condition
[15:53] <LightWolf> no they can''t completely destroy you
[15:53] <UncleSam> why did the busty get that back
[15:53] <LightWolf> unless their last person blocks every kill in the game
[15:53] <LightWolf> Busty last man can get easily killed
[15:53] <LightWolf> and by all accounts Pblade should have killed him
[15:54] <LightWolf> also getting 1 person first
[15:54] <LightWolf> is not the wincondition
[15:54] <UncleSam> yes
[15:54] <UncleSam> it is
[15:54] <LightWolf> people should have been based on the theme of getting stronger upon loses
[15:54] <UncleSam> because apparently the last person
[15:54] <LightWolf> adapted two strats
[15:54] <UncleSam> can counter
[15:54] <LightWolf> gib a single team as quick as possible
[15:54] <UncleSam> every thing the mafia has
[15:54] <UncleSam> period
[15:55] <LightWolf> or eliminate a faction instantly leaving no one to get sstronger
[15:55] <LightWolf> and doing that they were STILL at the mercy of the other team
[15:55] <LightWolf> it coulld have been done either way
[15:56] <LightWolf> your actions speak for themselves in showing you completely forgot about the central rule of the game stated to have been the most important
[15:58] <UncleSam> i did not
[15:58] <UncleSam> forget about it
[15:58] <UncleSam> I HOOKED BARRY
[15:58] <UncleSam> I DID THE ONLY THING I COULD REASONABLY DO
[15:58] <UncleSam> TO STOP HIM
[15:58] <UncleSam> AT EVERY POINT THIS GAME I DID EXACTLY WHAT I HAD TO DO
[15:58] <UncleSam> except that
[15:58] <UncleSam> losing meant winning
[15:58] <UncleSam> which is horrible design
[16:00] <LightWolf> if you had done what you had to this game, then you would have won, it should have become apparent pretty quickly just have much your faction benefited from losing members
[16:00] <LightWolf> if you didn't play to tke advantage of the system then it's not the system's fault
[16:01] <UncleSam> youre sayin
[16:01] <UncleSam> that i played badly
[16:01] <UncleSam> by killing more of the enemy
[16:01] <UncleSam> than of my own guys
[16:01] <UncleSam> ok
[16:01] <LightWolf> no
[16:01] <UncleSam> maybe i shouldve just
[16:01] <UncleSam> killed all my own guys
[16:01] <UncleSam> to start
[16:01] <UncleSam> that wouldve been good
[16:01] <LightWolf> I'm saying you took self presevation too far
[16:01] <LightWolf> you constantly spammed lynchguard
[16:02] <LightWolf> just for the low chance of you picking the right guy and one of you actually get lynched
[16:02] <LightWolf> giving up copy
[16:02] <LightWolf> then when you finally decided to use copy you gambled on no one else targetting him and used one of your own stuff on it
[16:03] <LightWolf> frankly it didn't help that the villages were more caught up fighting each other rather than you
[16:03] <LightWolf> which has been the case for the last few cycles
[16:04] <UncleSam> ;caught up'???
[16:04] <UncleSam> i played them off each other
[16:04] <UncleSam> fucking perfectly
[16:04] <UncleSam> i collabbed with each one every cycle to make sure i was always in a good position
[16:05] <UncleSam> in order to take over the lynch
[16:05] <UncleSam> at some point
[16:05] <UncleSam> but that cant happen unless i guess right
[16:05] <UncleSam> on who the villages are killing
[16:05] <UncleSam> and i guessed wrong
[16:05] <UncleSam> and then
[16:05] <UncleSam> agape is given a free win
[16:05] <UncleSam> for being a complete fucking retard
[16:05] <UncleSam> the entire game
[16:06] <UncleSam> our copy
[16:06] <UncleSam> is completely fucking worthless
[16:06] <UncleSam> anyway
[16:06] <UncleSam> we cant reliably get anything with it
[16:06] <UncleSam> so why wouldnt we lynchguard
[16:06] <UncleSam> like its just a crapshoot just like EVERYTHING ELSE
[16:07] <LightWolf> yeah it's so worthless to be able to know when you are inspected
[16:07] <UncleSam> yes it is
[16:07] <LightWolf> or hooked, or just getting a second BG if you guys use it on him
[16:07] <UncleSam> because i cant do anything
[16:07] <UncleSam> about it
[16:08] <LightWolf> all your complaints don't change the fact that you are only angry because you lost
[16:08] <UncleSam> no
[16:08] <LightWolf> anyone from an outsider view can see
[16:08] <UncleSam> id still be angry
[16:08] <LightWolf> the fucking mafia
[16:08] <UncleSam> about this game
[16:08] <LightWolf> is broken
[16:09] <UncleSam> rofl
[16:09] <UncleSam> anyone who thinks that
[16:09] <UncleSam> is completely retared
[16:09] <LightWolf> I'm sorry
[16:09] <LightWolf> but you have to be extremely Silly
[16:09] <LightWolf> to think that the factyou guys can have one person do all your actions
[16:09] <LightWolf> and have that guy safeguarded
[16:10] <LightWolf> with a safeguard that nothing but onetimers and the latest game role ever
[16:10] <LightWolf> can beat
[16:10] <LightWolf> the fact that combo invalidates the existance of every single busty role
[16:10] <UncleSam> and i used it
[16:10] <UncleSam> every single time
[16:10] <LightWolf> while having the tools to take curvy on in a voting war due to silence and kidnap
[16:10] <LightWolf> yeah and busty got so little done
[16:10] <UncleSam> except that i cant fucking deal with
[16:10] <UncleSam> their upgrades
[16:10] <LightWolf> it's laughable
[16:11] <UncleSam> yes
[16:11] <LightWolf> what upgades
[16:11] <UncleSam> correct
[16:11] <UncleSam> they played likef fucking shit
[16:11] <UncleSam> and won ebcause ofit
[16:11] <LightWolf> no
[16:11] <LightWolf> busty couldn1tdo shit
[16:11] <UncleSam> because once you hit one person
[16:11] <UncleSam> you just win
[16:11] <UncleSam> in this game
[16:11] <LightWolf> all the roles they could hook
[16:11] <LightWolf> redirect
[16:11] <LightWolf> kidnap
[16:11] <LightWolf> hook again
[16:11] <LightWolf> and kidnap again
[16:11] <LightWolf> were all hidden behind
[16:11] <LightWolf> your SG
[16:11] <LightWolf> of course they couldn't do shit
[16:11] <LightWolf> but you know what only Agape actually tried to game the system
[16:12] <LightWolf> and constantly considered suiciding his silenced or kidnapped aliases
[16:13] <UncleSam> are you certain
[16:13] <UncleSam> you didnt fuckup
[16:13] <UncleSam> the ralph the wolf
[16:13] <UncleSam> mayor thing
[16:13] <UncleSam> because he was hooked
[16:13] <UncleSam> every single night
[16:13] <LightWolf> nope
[16:13] <LightWolf> backup operates at the highest natural priority so that villages are assured to get power from it
[16:14] <LightWolf> this decision was made so they could access this when needed rather than being stuck as a vanilla forever
[16:14] <UncleSam> lol
[15:40] <UncleSam> you changed the silence
[15:40] <UncleSam> right
[15:40] <LightWolf> yeah
[15:40] <UncleSam> also is game over
[15:40] <UncleSam> and di i lose
[15:40] <LightWolf> yes
[15:40] <LightWolf> yes
[15:40] <UncleSam> zz
[15:40] <LightWolf> if anyone but busty is lynched
[15:40] <LightWolf> you guys would have won
[15:40] <UncleSam> ?
[15:41] <UncleSam> how
[15:41] <UncleSam> this game makes no sense
[15:41] <LightWolf> lynching yourself gives you guys enough weapons to just on that win the game
[15:41] <UncleSam> how does finland dying
[15:41] <UncleSam> fuck me over
[15:41] <UncleSam> wtf
[15:41] <LightWolf> and that's without the CORNERED BEAST BONUS
[15:42] <UncleSam> is that more than just a kill
[15:42] <LightWolf> oh you guys if cornered first
[15:42] <UncleSam> im sorry but not being able to predict
[15:42] <UncleSam> what people get
[15:42] <UncleSam> is so dumb
[15:42] <LightWolf> would have gotten all your full powered roles back
[15:42] <LightWolf> and a little bonus that you lostto
[15:42] <UncleSam> thats so fucking stupid
[15:42] <LightWolf> you didn't need to predict it
[15:42] <LightWolf> you should have played it safe
[15:43] <UncleSam> i DID play it safe
[15:43] <LightWolf> your faction is easily able to wipe out a whole faction
[15:43] <UncleSam> i took out the redirector
[15:43] <LightWolf> withyour bonus kills
[15:43] <UncleSam> that was by far the most dangerous role
[15:43] <LightWolf> which I still don't get why you feared
[15:43] <UncleSam> that i couldve reasonably been aware of
[15:43] <LightWolf> when your Safeguard is the most OP tihng in the game
[15:43] <UncleSam> how was i supposed to know
[15:43] <UncleSam> safeguard blocks it
[15:43] <UncleSam> it never once successfully blocked it
[15:43] <UncleSam> if i had known then ya
[15:43] <UncleSam> id have just tied the lynch
[15:43] <UncleSam> or apparently wouldvel ynched bill
[15:44] <UncleSam> because lol cornered beast makes killing yourself preferable
[15:44] <LightWolf> ignoring cornered beast
[15:44] <LightWolf> jsut by having 3 kills this night
[15:44] <LightWolf> from losing bill
[15:44] <UncleSam> i still dont get
[15:44] <UncleSam> how
[15:44] <LightWolf> +hook + kidnap
[15:44] <UncleSam> we lose
[15:44] <LightWolf> you could lock up the whole game
[15:44] <UncleSam> like we had kills on
[15:44] <UncleSam> everyone
[15:44] <UncleSam> and hook on barry
[15:44] <LightWolf> well simple
[15:44] <LightWolf> the nature of the cornerede beast
[15:44] <LightWolf> is why
[15:44] <UncleSam> thats retarded
[15:44] <LightWolf> which you would have gotten too
[15:45] <UncleSam> i have no way to predict that
[15:45] <LightWolf> you didn't need to predict what it is
[15:45] <UncleSam> i hav eno way to predict
[15:45] <LightWolf> the rules clearly state the cornered beast is the most dangerous
[15:45] <UncleSam> that cornered beast will trump a hook
[15:45] <UncleSam> ya ok theres most dangerous
[15:45] <UncleSam> and theres ridiculously fucking op
[15:45] <UncleSam> that i cant do shit about
[15:45] <UncleSam> thats two way different things
[15:45] <LightWolf> yes you can
[15:45] <LightWolf> avoid triggering it
[15:45] <UncleSam> thats really stupid
[15:45] <UncleSam> im sorry
[15:46] <LightWolf> your faction was set up to easily avoid that by killing two people at once
[15:46] <UncleSam> ya well you shouldve told us
[15:46] <LightWolf> the main reason you really lost
[15:46] <UncleSam> to do that then
[15:46] <LightWolf> is that somehow curvy were tricked into thinking agape was wolf
[15:46] <LightWolf> otherwise ou guys would have been lynched
[15:46] <UncleSam> curvy are retarded
[15:46] <LightWolf> and won
[15:46] <UncleSam> did curvy lose
[15:46] <UncleSam> or win
[15:46] <LightWolf> yeah DLE was their brains
[15:47] <UncleSam> thats fucking
[15:47] <LightWolf> they lost
[15:47] <UncleSam> retarded
[15:47] <LightWolf> because they didn1t kill agape
[15:47] <LightWolf> they killed bill
[15:47] <UncleSam> ok?
[15:47] <LightWolf> another missplay
[15:47] <UncleSam> so kill failed
[15:47] <LightWolf> no
[15:47] <UncleSam> why wouldnt they kill bill
[15:47] <UncleSam> i was bging bill
[15:47] <UncleSam> with safeguard on me
[15:47] <LightWolf> you were instagibbed
[15:47] <UncleSam> so the kill on bill didnt work
[15:47] <UncleSam> what does that
[15:47] <UncleSam> even mean
[15:48] <LightWolf> super prio kill from the cornered beast
[15:48] <LightWolf> that's it's nature
[15:48] <LightWolf> you'd have gotten that too
[15:48] <UncleSam> right more
[15:48] <UncleSam> counterplayless shit
[15:48] <UncleSam> that i cant predict
[15:48] <UncleSam> by any reasonable measure
[15:48] <LightWolf> you can predict it
[15:48] <UncleSam> im sorry but this game
[15:48] <LightWolf> it doesn't matter
[15:48] <UncleSam> was horribly designed
[15:48] <LightWolf> what the cornered beast gets
[15:48] <LightWolf> you knew shit like that was coming
[15:48] <LightWolf> you should have avoided it
[15:49] <UncleSam> no
[15:49] <UncleSam> i cant reasonably know
[15:49] <UncleSam> that everything up until now
[15:49] <UncleSam> will be made useless
[15:49] <UncleSam> because when the village gets down to one person
[15:50] <UncleSam> they just infinite prio kill someone
[15:50] <LightWolf> you just jumped at the chance to get someone not you lynched and were worrying about a redirect that you really should have expected not to affect you, especially after NO REDIRECT HAPPENING when finland was kidnapped
[15:50] <LightWolf> yes
[15:50] <LightWolf> they infinite prio kill SOMEONE
[15:50] <LightWolf> you would would have infinite prio killed 3 people
[15:50] <LightWolf> oh noes mafia so UP
[15:50] <LightWolf> has a single safeguard that protects nearly all their actions that no one but their old kidnap could beat
[15:51] <UncleSam> ya mafia had no chance
[15:51] <UncleSam> itg
[15:51] <UncleSam> unless they played horribly
[15:51] <UncleSam> and got fucked
[15:51] <UncleSam> and then they win
[15:51] <UncleSam> so retarded
[15:51] <LightWolf> you have no idea what you are talking about
[15:51] <LightWolf> you have a single role
[15:52] <LightWolf> that completely screwsy over everything the busty could gain
[15:52] <UncleSam> except for the fact that they can completely destroy us
[15:52] <UncleSam> if they get to one person first
[15:53] <LightWolf> for every member you lose you kill a villager nearly guaranteed minus the busty mass hook that actually only saved curvy
[15:53] <UncleSam> like why is getting to one person first the win condition
[15:53] <LightWolf> no they can''t completely destroy you
[15:53] <UncleSam> why did the busty get that back
[15:53] <LightWolf> unless their last person blocks every kill in the game
[15:53] <LightWolf> Busty last man can get easily killed
[15:53] <LightWolf> and by all accounts Pblade should have killed him
[15:54] <LightWolf> also getting 1 person first
[15:54] <LightWolf> is not the wincondition
[15:54] <UncleSam> yes
[15:54] <UncleSam> it is
[15:54] <LightWolf> people should have been based on the theme of getting stronger upon loses
[15:54] <UncleSam> because apparently the last person
[15:54] <LightWolf> adapted two strats
[15:54] <UncleSam> can counter
[15:54] <LightWolf> gib a single team as quick as possible
[15:54] <UncleSam> every thing the mafia has
[15:54] <UncleSam> period
[15:55] <LightWolf> or eliminate a faction instantly leaving no one to get sstronger
[15:55] <LightWolf> and doing that they were STILL at the mercy of the other team
[15:55] <LightWolf> it coulld have been done either way
[15:56] <LightWolf> your actions speak for themselves in showing you completely forgot about the central rule of the game stated to have been the most important
[15:58] <UncleSam> i did not
[15:58] <UncleSam> forget about it
[15:58] <UncleSam> I HOOKED BARRY
[15:58] <UncleSam> I DID THE ONLY THING I COULD REASONABLY DO
[15:58] <UncleSam> TO STOP HIM
[15:58] <UncleSam> AT EVERY POINT THIS GAME I DID EXACTLY WHAT I HAD TO DO
[15:58] <UncleSam> except that
[15:58] <UncleSam> losing meant winning
[15:58] <UncleSam> which is horrible design
[16:00] <LightWolf> if you had done what you had to this game, then you would have won, it should have become apparent pretty quickly just have much your faction benefited from losing members
[16:00] <LightWolf> if you didn't play to tke advantage of the system then it's not the system's fault
[16:01] <UncleSam> youre sayin
[16:01] <UncleSam> that i played badly
[16:01] <UncleSam> by killing more of the enemy
[16:01] <UncleSam> than of my own guys
[16:01] <UncleSam> ok
[16:01] <LightWolf> no
[16:01] <UncleSam> maybe i shouldve just
[16:01] <UncleSam> killed all my own guys
[16:01] <UncleSam> to start
[16:01] <UncleSam> that wouldve been good
[16:01] <LightWolf> I'm saying you took self presevation too far
[16:01] <LightWolf> you constantly spammed lynchguard
[16:02] <LightWolf> just for the low chance of you picking the right guy and one of you actually get lynched
[16:02] <LightWolf> giving up copy
[16:02] <LightWolf> then when you finally decided to use copy you gambled on no one else targetting him and used one of your own stuff on it
[16:03] <LightWolf> frankly it didn't help that the villages were more caught up fighting each other rather than you
[16:03] <LightWolf> which has been the case for the last few cycles
[16:04] <UncleSam> ;caught up'???
[16:04] <UncleSam> i played them off each other
[16:04] <UncleSam> fucking perfectly
[16:04] <UncleSam> i collabbed with each one every cycle to make sure i was always in a good position
[16:05] <UncleSam> in order to take over the lynch
[16:05] <UncleSam> at some point
[16:05] <UncleSam> but that cant happen unless i guess right
[16:05] <UncleSam> on who the villages are killing
[16:05] <UncleSam> and i guessed wrong
[16:05] <UncleSam> and then
[16:05] <UncleSam> agape is given a free win
[16:05] <UncleSam> for being a complete fucking retard
[16:05] <UncleSam> the entire game
[16:06] <UncleSam> our copy
[16:06] <UncleSam> is completely fucking worthless
[16:06] <UncleSam> anyway
[16:06] <UncleSam> we cant reliably get anything with it
[16:06] <UncleSam> so why wouldnt we lynchguard
[16:06] <UncleSam> like its just a crapshoot just like EVERYTHING ELSE
[16:07] <LightWolf> yeah it's so worthless to be able to know when you are inspected
[16:07] <UncleSam> yes it is
[16:07] <LightWolf> or hooked, or just getting a second BG if you guys use it on him
[16:07] <UncleSam> because i cant do anything
[16:07] <UncleSam> about it
[16:08] <LightWolf> all your complaints don't change the fact that you are only angry because you lost
[16:08] <UncleSam> no
[16:08] <LightWolf> anyone from an outsider view can see
[16:08] <UncleSam> id still be angry
[16:08] <LightWolf> the fucking mafia
[16:08] <UncleSam> about this game
[16:08] <LightWolf> is broken
[16:09] <UncleSam> rofl
[16:09] <UncleSam> anyone who thinks that
[16:09] <UncleSam> is completely retared
[16:09] <LightWolf> I'm sorry
[16:09] <LightWolf> but you have to be extremely Silly
[16:09] <LightWolf> to think that the factyou guys can have one person do all your actions
[16:09] <LightWolf> and have that guy safeguarded
[16:10] <LightWolf> with a safeguard that nothing but onetimers and the latest game role ever
[16:10] <LightWolf> can beat
[16:10] <LightWolf> the fact that combo invalidates the existance of every single busty role
[16:10] <UncleSam> and i used it
[16:10] <UncleSam> every single time
[16:10] <LightWolf> while having the tools to take curvy on in a voting war due to silence and kidnap
[16:10] <LightWolf> yeah and busty got so little done
[16:10] <UncleSam> except that i cant fucking deal with
[16:10] <UncleSam> their upgrades
[16:10] <LightWolf> it's laughable
[16:11] <UncleSam> yes
[16:11] <LightWolf> what upgades
[16:11] <UncleSam> correct
[16:11] <UncleSam> they played likef fucking shit
[16:11] <UncleSam> and won ebcause ofit
[16:11] <LightWolf> no
[16:11] <LightWolf> busty couldn1tdo shit
[16:11] <UncleSam> because once you hit one person
[16:11] <UncleSam> you just win
[16:11] <UncleSam> in this game
[16:11] <LightWolf> all the roles they could hook
[16:11] <LightWolf> redirect
[16:11] <LightWolf> kidnap
[16:11] <LightWolf> hook again
[16:11] <LightWolf> and kidnap again
[16:11] <LightWolf> were all hidden behind
[16:11] <LightWolf> your SG
[16:11] <LightWolf> of course they couldn't do shit
[16:11] <LightWolf> but you know what only Agape actually tried to game the system
[16:12] <LightWolf> and constantly considered suiciding his silenced or kidnapped aliases
[16:13] <UncleSam> are you certain
[16:13] <UncleSam> you didnt fuckup
[16:13] <UncleSam> the ralph the wolf
[16:13] <UncleSam> mayor thing
[16:13] <UncleSam> because he was hooked
[16:13] <UncleSam> every single night
[16:13] <LightWolf> nope
[16:13] <LightWolf> backup operates at the highest natural priority so that villages are assured to get power from it
[16:14] <LightWolf> this decision was made so they could access this when needed rather than being stuck as a vanilla forever
[16:14] <UncleSam> lol
[15:49] <UncleSam> well
[15:49] <UncleSam> it looks like we both lose
[15:49] <UncleSam> because lightwolf is the worst game designer
[15:49] <UncleSam> in the history of mafia
[15:49] <daletterel> lol
[15:49] <UncleSam> like
[15:49] <UncleSam> what
[15:49] <UncleSam> the actual
[15:49] <UncleSam> fuck
[15:49] <UncleSam> he made it so that lynching yourself
[15:49] <UncleSam> is preferable
[15:49] <UncleSam> to lynching the enemy redirector
[15:50] <daletterel> it was obvious that getting to 1 was bad news bears; your faction was the only one well equipped to deal with it and you chose not to
[15:50] <UncleSam> ?
[15:50] <UncleSam> i hooked barry
[15:50] <UncleSam> how am i possibly supposed to know
[15:50] <UncleSam> that he will be
[15:50] <UncleSam> unhookable
[15:50] <UncleSam> like i inspected him LAST NIGHT
[15:50] <UncleSam> i have no way of knowing
[15:50] <UncleSam> wtf people get
[15:50] <UncleSam> i figured he just got
[15:51] <UncleSam> a kill+something random
[15:51] <UncleSam> which would be expected
[15:51] <daletterel> the what he got is irrelevant to the fact that you know he will get something really really good
[15:51] <daletterel> so putting that to the test
[15:51] <daletterel> is stupid
[15:51] <daletterel> you could easily have nled, or lynched yourself and won off the current knowledge you had of roles
[15:51] <UncleSam> thats not even remotely sensible
[15:52] <UncleSam> and you know it
[15:52] <daletterel> it was similarly obvious that while deaths buffed, there wouldnt be a significant one until 1 left
[15:52] <UncleSam> it is not reasonable to think
[15:52] <UncleSam> that someone will get something BETTEr
[15:52] <UncleSam> than a redirect
[15:52] <daletterel> you could also have lynched curvy
[15:52] <UncleSam> that as far as i know
[15:52] <UncleSam> goes through everything
[15:52] <UncleSam> no i couldnt
[15:52] <UncleSam> me and agaape voted nonput
[15:52] <UncleSam> that was my first attempt
[15:52] <UncleSam> but we didnt have majority
[15:52] <UncleSam> which is another bullshit thin
[15:52] <UncleSam> because ralph shouldnt have been mayor
[15:53] <UncleSam> like
[15:53] <UncleSam> literally
[15:53] <UncleSam> busty played fucking awfully
[15:53] <UncleSam> and that won them the game
[15:54] <UncleSam> a mafia game where your goal is to get fucked
[15:54] <UncleSam> is not well designed
[15:54] <UncleSam> in any sense
[15:55] <UncleSam> literally
[15:55] <UncleSam> the worst game design
[15:55] <daletterel> i have counterpoints to this
[15:55] <UncleSam> ive ever seen
[15:55] <daletterel> but ill save them for postgame
[15:55] <UncleSam> there were problems in the setup which is that
[15:55] <UncleSam> mafia cant mole
[15:55] <UncleSam> which makes it just
[15:55] <UncleSam> theres no trust issues
[15:55] <UncleSam> just two people gathering claims
[15:56] <UncleSam> and mafia hoping not to get fucked
[15:56] <UncleSam> which makes it not fun at all
[15:56] <UncleSam> because theres no trust issues
[15:56] <UncleSam> in the village
[15:56] <UncleSam> then theres the fact that you win by losing
[15:56] <UncleSam> which is completely retarded
[15:56] <daletterel> mafia could have moled but not with the quickly added in "everyone has 2 roles" thing, which threw things off, but also gave you the added advantage of not letting us know with any certainty if we were lynching mafia or not
[15:57] <UncleSam> no that wasnt
[15:57] <daletterel> and moling would consist of surviving rather than gathering info, which considering von's info role is pretty decent
[15:57] <UncleSam> an advantage
[15:57] <daletterel> you also have
[15:57] <UncleSam> or much of one
[15:57] <UncleSam> because we couldnt see who we killed
[15:57] <daletterel> an inherent advantage of literally every time one of your players dies
[15:57] <daletterel> you get a free kill
[15:57] <UncleSam> which we cant fucking use
[15:57] <UncleSam> because masshook infinite prio
[15:57] <UncleSam> village shit
[15:57] <UncleSam> or redirector
[15:57] <UncleSam> ten million ways
[15:57] <UncleSam> to block our shit
[15:57] <UncleSam> not to mention bgs
[15:57] <UncleSam> on both villages
[15:57] <UncleSam> and the inherent protections
[15:57] <UncleSam> on the only people we want to kill except not really
[15:58] <UncleSam> because apparently the mayor candidates dont get shit
[15:58] <UncleSam> such a stupid fucking game
[15:58] <daletterel> it was pretty obvious that was just quickly added in plot and not a gameplay mechanic
[15:58] <daletterel> lol
[15:59] <daletterel> a quick question to lightwolf about that would have clarified that for you easily
[15:59] <daletterel> and its one he wouldnt have cncnd'd
[15:59] <daletterel> and as i said, probably wasnt necessary anyway
[15:59] <UncleSam> literally
[15:59] <UncleSam> the fact that
[15:59] <UncleSam> the two factions which played decently
[15:59] <UncleSam> lost
[15:59] <UncleSam> because they played decently
[15:59] <UncleSam> should give you a hint
[15:59] <UncleSam> as to how well designed this game was
[16:00] <UncleSam> im not saying it was imbalanced
[16:00] <UncleSam> everyone had the same opportunity to get stupid shit by being retarded
[16:00] <UncleSam> im saying it was horribly designed
[16:00] <UncleSam> to make moling a nonfactor, to make info gathering impossible/boring
[16:00] <UncleSam> to make night actions impossible to predict
[16:00] <UncleSam> because people get random shit
[16:01] <UncleSam> like literally
[16:01] <daletterel> i want to say i played without making any major mistakes besides in making things as clear as possible to pblade before i died, and i did say everything i wanted to so that's far from a big one
[16:01] <daletterel> i just didnt make any good plays
[16:01] <UncleSam> you did well
[16:01] <UncleSam> honestly on the whole i think i played well
[16:01] <UncleSam> busty played like total shit
[16:01] <UncleSam> and won because of it
[16:02] <UncleSam> like literally precisely because they played fucking awfully
[16:02] <UncleSam> they got the overpowered bonus first
[16:02] <UncleSam> and won because of it
[16:02] <UncleSam> that should clue you in
[16:02] <daletterel> you played well; your outburst about sg not working set off alarm bells for me
[16:02] <UncleSam> i was
[16:02] <daletterel> which was really the first time i really was like "ok sam is probably the mole"
[16:02] <UncleSam> so fucking pissed
[16:02] <UncleSam> that safeguard didnt work
[16:02] <UncleSam> but ya i shouldnt have
[16:02] <UncleSam> said that
[16:02] <UncleSam> i shouldve just said
[16:02] <UncleSam> it didnt work
[16:02] <UncleSam> but i was way too tired
[16:02] <daletterel> yeah you being so invested in it not working
[16:02] <UncleSam> from school shit
[16:03] <UncleSam> i cant even explain
[16:03] <UncleSam> how mad i was
[16:03] <daletterel> would make no sense from being a villager
[16:03] <daletterel> but ya i get it lol
[16:03] <UncleSam> that a hook went through my safeguard
[16:03] <UncleSam> to stop two kills
[16:03] <UncleSam> that makes literally
[16:03] <UncleSam> zero sense
[16:03] <UncleSam> safeguard is a role
[16:03] <UncleSam> that ONLY
[16:03] <UncleSam> blocks hook
[16:03] <UncleSam> in mafia games
[16:03] <UncleSam> reliably
[16:03] <UncleSam> that is its practical sole purpose
[16:03] <daletterel> i want to spoil something for you
[16:03] <daletterel> so badly
[16:03] <UncleSam> bg too i guess in non-von games
[16:03] <daletterel> but wont
[16:03] <UncleSam> game is over
[16:03] <UncleSam> so
[16:03] <daletterel> because it actually could matter
[16:03] <UncleSam> why not
[16:03] <daletterel> is he calling it
[16:03] <UncleSam> yes
[16:04] <UncleSam> busty win
[16:04] <UncleSam> hes calling it
[16:06] <daletterel> fuuuuuuuuck paper had this
[16:06] <daletterel> if he didnt fuck up
[16:06] <UncleSam> how
[16:06] <UncleSam> oh right
[16:06] <UncleSam> hed have gotten CORNERED BEAST too
[16:06] <daletterel> he needed to shoot agape tonight
[16:07] <UncleSam> rofl
[16:07] <daletterel> and fucking didnt
[16:07] <UncleSam> so retarded
[16:07] <daletterel> nope
[16:07] <daletterel> only one gets it
[16:07] <UncleSam> i told him to
[16:07] <UncleSam> thats
[16:07] <UncleSam> just
[16:07] <UncleSam> wow
[16:07] <UncleSam> nvm
[16:07] <UncleSam> anything i said
[16:07] <UncleSam> about this game being balacned
[16:07] <UncleSam> throw that out the window too
[16:07] <UncleSam> because ONLY THE TEAM THAT FUCKS UP MOST
[16:07] <UncleSam> GETS THE BONUS
[16:07] <daletterel> it's meant (and accomplishes) getting rid of kingmaker in the vast majority of scenarios
[16:08] <daletterel> by incentivizing a 1v1
[16:08] <daletterel> why would you buff the weakest team in a 1v1
[16:08] <daletterel> THAT is unfair
[16:08] <daletterel> because there's little control to be had there
[16:08] <UncleSam> the team which gets fucked
[16:08] <UncleSam> wins
[16:08] <UncleSam> so fucking stupid
[16:08] <UncleSam> busty got played every single cycle
[16:08] <UncleSam> and won ebcause of it
[16:09] <daletterel> no; the game forces you to avoid a 1 alias kingmaker because of knowledge something fucking bad will happen if you do
[16:09] <daletterel> pblade just didnt listen to when i said
[16:09] <daletterel> dont let a team
[16:09] <daletterel> keep 1
[16:09] <daletterel> ugh
[16:09] <UncleSam> rofl
[16:09] <UncleSam> such a stupid
[16:09] <UncleSam> thing to base a game around
[16:09] <UncleSam> theres upgrades that help to rebalance things
[16:09] <UncleSam> but then theres
[16:10] <UncleSam> losing men makes you fucking STRONGEr
[16:10] <UncleSam> and thats not ok
[16:11] <daletterel> sam you literally just needed to teamwipe and then abuse kidnap + silence
[16:11] <daletterel> you had
[16:11] <daletterel> by far
[16:11] <daletterel> the easiest tools to use to win
[16:11] <daletterel> also
[16:11] <daletterel> your safeguard
[16:11] <daletterel> was higher prio
[16:11] <daletterel> than redirect
[16:11] <UncleSam> which we had no reason
[16:11] <UncleSam> to suspect
[16:11] <daletterel> your kills were literally
[16:11] <daletterel> untouchage
[16:11] <UncleSam> ok?
[16:11] <daletterel> untouchable*
[16:12] <UncleSam> except
[16:12] <daletterel> sure but it should do little to effect your play
[16:12] <UncleSam> mass hook
[16:12] <UncleSam> and of course
[16:12] <UncleSam> the one man kill
[16:12] <UncleSam> which blocked
[16:12] <UncleSam> four of our kills
[16:12] <UncleSam> and will every single time
[16:12] <UncleSam> you run through this game
[16:12] <daletterel> mass hook and 1 time lynch redirect were literally the only tools the villages had to swing the game besides our stealth back up mayor that i had to come up with on the fly
[16:12] <UncleSam> how did that even work
[16:12] <UncleSam> we HOOKED RALPH
[16:13] <UncleSam> id have lynched nonputrescence otherwise
[16:13] <daletterel> that's on lw making back up high prio
[16:13] <daletterel> his reasoning for it makes sense but is understandably frustrating
[16:13] <daletterel> as it uses up a hook
[16:14] <UncleSam> just
[16:14] <UncleSam> so many things
[16:14] <UncleSam> wrong with this game
[15:49] <UncleSam> it looks like we both lose
[15:49] <UncleSam> because lightwolf is the worst game designer
[15:49] <UncleSam> in the history of mafia
[15:49] <daletterel> lol
[15:49] <UncleSam> like
[15:49] <UncleSam> what
[15:49] <UncleSam> the actual
[15:49] <UncleSam> fuck
[15:49] <UncleSam> he made it so that lynching yourself
[15:49] <UncleSam> is preferable
[15:49] <UncleSam> to lynching the enemy redirector
[15:50] <daletterel> it was obvious that getting to 1 was bad news bears; your faction was the only one well equipped to deal with it and you chose not to
[15:50] <UncleSam> ?
[15:50] <UncleSam> i hooked barry
[15:50] <UncleSam> how am i possibly supposed to know
[15:50] <UncleSam> that he will be
[15:50] <UncleSam> unhookable
[15:50] <UncleSam> like i inspected him LAST NIGHT
[15:50] <UncleSam> i have no way of knowing
[15:50] <UncleSam> wtf people get
[15:50] <UncleSam> i figured he just got
[15:51] <UncleSam> a kill+something random
[15:51] <UncleSam> which would be expected
[15:51] <daletterel> the what he got is irrelevant to the fact that you know he will get something really really good
[15:51] <daletterel> so putting that to the test
[15:51] <daletterel> is stupid
[15:51] <daletterel> you could easily have nled, or lynched yourself and won off the current knowledge you had of roles
[15:51] <UncleSam> thats not even remotely sensible
[15:52] <UncleSam> and you know it
[15:52] <daletterel> it was similarly obvious that while deaths buffed, there wouldnt be a significant one until 1 left
[15:52] <UncleSam> it is not reasonable to think
[15:52] <UncleSam> that someone will get something BETTEr
[15:52] <UncleSam> than a redirect
[15:52] <daletterel> you could also have lynched curvy
[15:52] <UncleSam> that as far as i know
[15:52] <UncleSam> goes through everything
[15:52] <UncleSam> no i couldnt
[15:52] <UncleSam> me and agaape voted nonput
[15:52] <UncleSam> that was my first attempt
[15:52] <UncleSam> but we didnt have majority
[15:52] <UncleSam> which is another bullshit thin
[15:52] <UncleSam> because ralph shouldnt have been mayor
[15:53] <UncleSam> like
[15:53] <UncleSam> literally
[15:53] <UncleSam> busty played fucking awfully
[15:53] <UncleSam> and that won them the game
[15:54] <UncleSam> a mafia game where your goal is to get fucked
[15:54] <UncleSam> is not well designed
[15:54] <UncleSam> in any sense
[15:55] <UncleSam> literally
[15:55] <UncleSam> the worst game design
[15:55] <daletterel> i have counterpoints to this
[15:55] <UncleSam> ive ever seen
[15:55] <daletterel> but ill save them for postgame
[15:55] <UncleSam> there were problems in the setup which is that
[15:55] <UncleSam> mafia cant mole
[15:55] <UncleSam> which makes it just
[15:55] <UncleSam> theres no trust issues
[15:55] <UncleSam> just two people gathering claims
[15:56] <UncleSam> and mafia hoping not to get fucked
[15:56] <UncleSam> which makes it not fun at all
[15:56] <UncleSam> because theres no trust issues
[15:56] <UncleSam> in the village
[15:56] <UncleSam> then theres the fact that you win by losing
[15:56] <UncleSam> which is completely retarded
[15:56] <daletterel> mafia could have moled but not with the quickly added in "everyone has 2 roles" thing, which threw things off, but also gave you the added advantage of not letting us know with any certainty if we were lynching mafia or not
[15:57] <UncleSam> no that wasnt
[15:57] <daletterel> and moling would consist of surviving rather than gathering info, which considering von's info role is pretty decent
[15:57] <UncleSam> an advantage
[15:57] <daletterel> you also have
[15:57] <UncleSam> or much of one
[15:57] <UncleSam> because we couldnt see who we killed
[15:57] <daletterel> an inherent advantage of literally every time one of your players dies
[15:57] <daletterel> you get a free kill
[15:57] <UncleSam> which we cant fucking use
[15:57] <UncleSam> because masshook infinite prio
[15:57] <UncleSam> village shit
[15:57] <UncleSam> or redirector
[15:57] <UncleSam> ten million ways
[15:57] <UncleSam> to block our shit
[15:57] <UncleSam> not to mention bgs
[15:57] <UncleSam> on both villages
[15:57] <UncleSam> and the inherent protections
[15:57] <UncleSam> on the only people we want to kill except not really
[15:58] <UncleSam> because apparently the mayor candidates dont get shit
[15:58] <UncleSam> such a stupid fucking game
[15:58] <daletterel> it was pretty obvious that was just quickly added in plot and not a gameplay mechanic
[15:58] <daletterel> lol
[15:59] <daletterel> a quick question to lightwolf about that would have clarified that for you easily
[15:59] <daletterel> and its one he wouldnt have cncnd'd
[15:59] <daletterel> and as i said, probably wasnt necessary anyway
[15:59] <UncleSam> literally
[15:59] <UncleSam> the fact that
[15:59] <UncleSam> the two factions which played decently
[15:59] <UncleSam> lost
[15:59] <UncleSam> because they played decently
[15:59] <UncleSam> should give you a hint
[15:59] <UncleSam> as to how well designed this game was
[16:00] <UncleSam> im not saying it was imbalanced
[16:00] <UncleSam> everyone had the same opportunity to get stupid shit by being retarded
[16:00] <UncleSam> im saying it was horribly designed
[16:00] <UncleSam> to make moling a nonfactor, to make info gathering impossible/boring
[16:00] <UncleSam> to make night actions impossible to predict
[16:00] <UncleSam> because people get random shit
[16:01] <UncleSam> like literally
[16:01] <daletterel> i want to say i played without making any major mistakes besides in making things as clear as possible to pblade before i died, and i did say everything i wanted to so that's far from a big one
[16:01] <daletterel> i just didnt make any good plays
[16:01] <UncleSam> you did well
[16:01] <UncleSam> honestly on the whole i think i played well
[16:01] <UncleSam> busty played like total shit
[16:01] <UncleSam> and won because of it
[16:02] <UncleSam> like literally precisely because they played fucking awfully
[16:02] <UncleSam> they got the overpowered bonus first
[16:02] <UncleSam> and won because of it
[16:02] <UncleSam> that should clue you in
[16:02] <daletterel> you played well; your outburst about sg not working set off alarm bells for me
[16:02] <UncleSam> i was
[16:02] <daletterel> which was really the first time i really was like "ok sam is probably the mole"
[16:02] <UncleSam> so fucking pissed
[16:02] <UncleSam> that safeguard didnt work
[16:02] <UncleSam> but ya i shouldnt have
[16:02] <UncleSam> said that
[16:02] <UncleSam> i shouldve just said
[16:02] <UncleSam> it didnt work
[16:02] <UncleSam> but i was way too tired
[16:02] <daletterel> yeah you being so invested in it not working
[16:02] <UncleSam> from school shit
[16:03] <UncleSam> i cant even explain
[16:03] <UncleSam> how mad i was
[16:03] <daletterel> would make no sense from being a villager
[16:03] <daletterel> but ya i get it lol
[16:03] <UncleSam> that a hook went through my safeguard
[16:03] <UncleSam> to stop two kills
[16:03] <UncleSam> that makes literally
[16:03] <UncleSam> zero sense
[16:03] <UncleSam> safeguard is a role
[16:03] <UncleSam> that ONLY
[16:03] <UncleSam> blocks hook
[16:03] <UncleSam> in mafia games
[16:03] <UncleSam> reliably
[16:03] <UncleSam> that is its practical sole purpose
[16:03] <daletterel> i want to spoil something for you
[16:03] <daletterel> so badly
[16:03] <UncleSam> bg too i guess in non-von games
[16:03] <daletterel> but wont
[16:03] <UncleSam> game is over
[16:03] <UncleSam> so
[16:03] <daletterel> because it actually could matter
[16:03] <UncleSam> why not
[16:03] <daletterel> is he calling it
[16:03] <UncleSam> yes
[16:04] <UncleSam> busty win
[16:04] <UncleSam> hes calling it
[16:06] <daletterel> fuuuuuuuuck paper had this
[16:06] <daletterel> if he didnt fuck up
[16:06] <UncleSam> how
[16:06] <UncleSam> oh right
[16:06] <UncleSam> hed have gotten CORNERED BEAST too
[16:06] <daletterel> he needed to shoot agape tonight
[16:07] <UncleSam> rofl
[16:07] <daletterel> and fucking didnt
[16:07] <UncleSam> so retarded
[16:07] <daletterel> nope
[16:07] <daletterel> only one gets it
[16:07] <UncleSam> i told him to
[16:07] <UncleSam> thats
[16:07] <UncleSam> just
[16:07] <UncleSam> wow
[16:07] <UncleSam> nvm
[16:07] <UncleSam> anything i said
[16:07] <UncleSam> about this game being balacned
[16:07] <UncleSam> throw that out the window too
[16:07] <UncleSam> because ONLY THE TEAM THAT FUCKS UP MOST
[16:07] <UncleSam> GETS THE BONUS
[16:07] <daletterel> it's meant (and accomplishes) getting rid of kingmaker in the vast majority of scenarios
[16:08] <daletterel> by incentivizing a 1v1
[16:08] <daletterel> why would you buff the weakest team in a 1v1
[16:08] <daletterel> THAT is unfair
[16:08] <daletterel> because there's little control to be had there
[16:08] <UncleSam> the team which gets fucked
[16:08] <UncleSam> wins
[16:08] <UncleSam> so fucking stupid
[16:08] <UncleSam> busty got played every single cycle
[16:08] <UncleSam> and won ebcause of it
[16:09] <daletterel> no; the game forces you to avoid a 1 alias kingmaker because of knowledge something fucking bad will happen if you do
[16:09] <daletterel> pblade just didnt listen to when i said
[16:09] <daletterel> dont let a team
[16:09] <daletterel> keep 1
[16:09] <daletterel> ugh
[16:09] <UncleSam> rofl
[16:09] <UncleSam> such a stupid
[16:09] <UncleSam> thing to base a game around
[16:09] <UncleSam> theres upgrades that help to rebalance things
[16:09] <UncleSam> but then theres
[16:10] <UncleSam> losing men makes you fucking STRONGEr
[16:10] <UncleSam> and thats not ok
[16:11] <daletterel> sam you literally just needed to teamwipe and then abuse kidnap + silence
[16:11] <daletterel> you had
[16:11] <daletterel> by far
[16:11] <daletterel> the easiest tools to use to win
[16:11] <daletterel> also
[16:11] <daletterel> your safeguard
[16:11] <daletterel> was higher prio
[16:11] <daletterel> than redirect
[16:11] <UncleSam> which we had no reason
[16:11] <UncleSam> to suspect
[16:11] <daletterel> your kills were literally
[16:11] <daletterel> untouchage
[16:11] <UncleSam> ok?
[16:11] <daletterel> untouchable*
[16:12] <UncleSam> except
[16:12] <daletterel> sure but it should do little to effect your play
[16:12] <UncleSam> mass hook
[16:12] <UncleSam> and of course
[16:12] <UncleSam> the one man kill
[16:12] <UncleSam> which blocked
[16:12] <UncleSam> four of our kills
[16:12] <UncleSam> and will every single time
[16:12] <UncleSam> you run through this game
[16:12] <daletterel> mass hook and 1 time lynch redirect were literally the only tools the villages had to swing the game besides our stealth back up mayor that i had to come up with on the fly
[16:12] <UncleSam> how did that even work
[16:12] <UncleSam> we HOOKED RALPH
[16:13] <UncleSam> id have lynched nonputrescence otherwise
[16:13] <daletterel> that's on lw making back up high prio
[16:13] <daletterel> his reasoning for it makes sense but is understandably frustrating
[16:13] <daletterel> as it uses up a hook
[16:14] <UncleSam> just
[16:14] <UncleSam> so many things
[16:14] <UncleSam> wrong with this game
Yay for playing horribly meaning you win, this way everyone's a winner!
Well that was quick! Oh not the night, the very first kill was EXTREMELY QUICK, I doubt Quasimodo even made it back to his house after the lynch when he was offed, and what a way to go I say, I never expected to roll a 3.14159...4 on a d20! I doubt UncleSam saw it coming either, considering with that he is eliminated.
With this THE CREAMY FACTION HAS BEEN ELIMINATED!
It also appears that Ralph the Wolf has been taken hostage!
With only two factions left, and two Curvy aliases standing against the sole Busty alias left, things are looking for Agape. As soon as it dawns all 3 of them are standing at the town square. Tensions are high but it clearly becomes apparent who's on the chopping block. As Paperblade and Haunted Diamond leap onto him, Agape just stands there, seemingly having accepted his fate. The torture lasted for hours, and badly beaten, having lost all his teeth and around 30% of his blood, Agape still stands tall. Finally the sun sets and both Curvy collapse on the street tired, knowing they have failed, as the freed Ralph the Wolf rushes to their, alas too late. Agape may be beaten and battered, but the power of all the Busty who died before him flows through his veins, as he lumbers on towards the remaining Curvy.
2 days later...
"People of Busty City, I thank you for electing me, and I can assure you that after my dentist finishes crafting me a new set of teeth out of the bones of my fallen enemies, I will resume kissing babies!"
Congratulations team Busty for winning Curvy Bust Mafia!
And for our glorious winner:
Barry had backed up Even Night Bodyguard. At the time of being the CORNERED BEAST his role was raplaced by the Essence of the Busty. He gained the highest priority in the game, a Hook, a Kidnap, a Nightly Kill and a single time LPV.
Thank you for playing and hope at least 3 out of 13 enjoyed this game at least or something, I will write up a postgame even if it kills me, because I care about this project a lot.
Also Yeti DOUBLE WON(second one being a SHAMEFUL WIN SHE DIDN'T DESERVE BOO). This is due to her being the first one to guess my alias theme and getting the secret alias LightWolf. Should anyone have tried to jokingly vote or target me, this alias would have perished.
Sadly this meant only problems for the likes of Bill, as no there was no one left to Bodyguard him, letting a simple roll of 15 finish him easily. Bill was vonFiedler.Dear ND UncleSamCabin,
You are Black Mage Evilwizardington, the Blue Mage!
You did it, you finally did it. Your ultimate goal has been accomplished! You managed to ditch Fighter! Congratulation! Now nothing stands in your way! Expect that town… Oh well time to HADOKEN it! No wait that would be far too easy, and you already did that to the last 3 towns. Yes you should definitely infiltrate it and slowly torture it from the inside. What do you mean you think I might be manipulating you into doing my dirty work, whatever gave you that idea! By the way my name is Bob nice to meet you.
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Goblin Punch <alias>” in this very conversation. You will proceed to focus your Blue Mage abilities into channeling one of the most powerful spells in your arsenal that will stop your target from doing anything that night but writhe in pain, a kick to the groin.
You are allied with the Creamy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
BM’s alias is: FMax
You are also Bob, or Napalm or Darth Volcanus but some call him Tim!
Okay, new try, no more robots, no more mad scientists and most importantly no more annoying sissy older brother. A new beginning in a new town, which means a brand new reputation that needs to be ruined. You already found a stupid easy to manipulate minion and joined a group trying to take the town for themselves. That suits your needs just fine.
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Fire Shield around <alias>” AND “Night X - Observe <alias2>” in this very conversation. You will firstly encase one of your targets in a fiery bubble you usually slowly shrink down for torture, but you will spare them this time and instead prevent any attempts on their life with it. Meanwhile you will keep a watch on your other target and deter anyone from visiting them by setting your blaster to one of it’s 499 "Blast the shit out of something" modes, alas killers are too sneaky and will avoid your gaze entirely.
You are allied with the Creamy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Bob’s alias is: Quasimodo
He never did get that lynchguard off successfully...Dear vonFiedler,
You are Cream the Rabbit, a flying anthropomorphic rabbit!
This town has many serious 'splainin to do! Being neither curvy nor busty, you were outraged by the discrimination by the town towards… well... you! Having decided to get revenge from the shadows, you gathered an elite strike team to take them all down. Sadly all you could get were some dogs and low res villains, but you will make due.
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Give <alias> a lift” in this very conversation. You will grab ahold of your target and keep her out of sight the whole day, causing any lynch attempts to fail on them. However the lynchmob will only be fooled once by this and be on the look out for anyone flying. After a single prevented lynch you will no longer be able to use this ability.
In addition, every night you don’t prepare to give someone a lift, you will be on high alert, causing you to wake up when the last fool tumbles his way into your home, allowing you to observe his actions to try to replicate next night.
You are allied with the Creamy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Cream’s alias is: Bill
You are also Milla Basset, NOT from the light novel series Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance!
You are a psychic rabb… basset hound. Having been rescued from the local dog pound you ended up in after an intense truck chase, you got fed up with this town that clearly can’t tell sentient beings apart from actual dogs. Biting the dog catchers may not have been the brightest idea you had. After getting to know some of your fellow inmates, you joined the Creamy to get justice.
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Track <alias>’s energy” in this very conversation. You will smell out all the dirty secrets of your target and even catch a hint of their potential if pushed far enough.
You are allied with the Creamy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Milla’s alias is: dak#
With this THE CREAMY FACTION HAS BEEN ELIMINATED!
It also appears that Ralph the Wolf has been taken hostage!
With only two factions left, and two Curvy aliases standing against the sole Busty alias left, things are looking for Agape. As soon as it dawns all 3 of them are standing at the town square. Tensions are high but it clearly becomes apparent who's on the chopping block. As Paperblade and Haunted Diamond leap onto him, Agape just stands there, seemingly having accepted his fate. The torture lasted for hours, and badly beaten, having lost all his teeth and around 30% of his blood, Agape still stands tall. Finally the sun sets and both Curvy collapse on the street tired, knowing they have failed, as the freed Ralph the Wolf rushes to their, alas too late. Agape may be beaten and battered, but the power of all the Busty who died before him flows through his veins, as he lumbers on towards the remaining Curvy.
2 days later...
"People of Busty City, I thank you for electing me, and I can assure you that after my dentist finishes crafting me a new set of teeth out of the bones of my fallen enemies, I will resume kissing babies!"
Congratulations team Busty for winning Curvy Bust Mafia!
Jesmon had become a Negative Voter and had a One Time Lynch Redirect. Jake Solomon died before evolving.Dear Paperblade,
You are Jesmon, who is a Digimon, I quote, “whose name and design are derived from the legendary Jesus”!
You are only in this game so I can showcase this jumping of the shark of the Digimon franchise, have fun!
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - JESUS CHRIST <announcement>” in this very conversation. You will announce stuff, because your whole purpose is to spread awareness of your existence, get it?
You are allied with the Curvy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Jesmon’s alias is: Psychic
You are also Jake Solomon, praise his name for he bringeth us XCOM!
Now give us Terror from the Deep with a bit more difficulty and tie in the storyline of the Volunteer surviving the Temple Ship Assault. If you don’t mind that is...
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Word of God <alias>” in this very conversation. You will reveal a new plot twist of Enemy Unknown instantly silencing all the fan theories and your target.
You are allied with the Curvy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Jake Solomon’s alias is: Scar
NicoB had become a Full Inspect, while Beagle had backed up Mayor just recently.Dear Haunted Diamond,
You are Beaglerush, impossibly ironmanly!
Oh you mighty aussie commander, whose roots lie in ARMA, may Firaxis keep offering you a timeslot to play XCOM on their twitch channel forever.
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Commander’s Choice <alias>” in this very conversation. You will visit the memorial and listen to the sad tune of bagpipes while mourning the recent death of your ally, but as an experienced commander you know the war must go on and fallen soldiers need replacements. In this case the only one available is you yourself, so you shall pick up their weapon and carry on with their ability, unless it’s limited use, that’s a no go!
You are allied with the Curvy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Beagle’s alias is: Ralph the Wolf
You are also NicoB, back to writing role PMs at people!
Yeah I’m just shamelessly using mafia to plug a few youtubers, sue me, he plays Phoenix Wright so fat chance!
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Go go horny Sigma! <alias>” in this very conversation. You will suddenly realise you know your target’s role name thanks to having already played this game in a different timeline where you tricked it out of the player behind it. Congrats alternate <insert smogon name here> is actually a good mafia player!
You are allied with the Curvy, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Nicos alias is: Nonpurtescence
And for our glorious winner:
Dear Agape,
You are Sebastian Debeste, furst-rate prosecutor!
Oh Sebastian, how proud you make me! You spent half of the day digging through a trash heap just to finally find that piece of evidence. But it’s not over yet, you will now put it to good use, and prove how brightly your logic can truly shine. Now keep on sobbing and get’em tigre!
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Present evidence of <alias2>’s guilt to <alias>” in this very conversation. You will put your pretty dirty, garbage smelling evidence to use and with simple logic prove that your target should instead go for <alias2> tonight.
Every night you MUST also send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - OBJECTION <alias>!” in this very conversation. You will raise an objection to whatever your target is doing, if you are quick enough that is. Since you are a prosecutor and the judge always accepts your objections, you will stop them from carrying out their action that night.
You may also send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Wanting to Find the Truth” in this very conversation. You know when this theme starts going whoever it’s supporting has their opponents on the rope. Sadly you don’t know who is or isn’t your opponent so you will OBJECTION everyone else in the game. You will be pretty tired after all that shouting and running though, and will not be able to repeat it again.
You are allied with the Busty, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Sebastian’s alias is: Finland
You are also Lynne, the Red-Headed Target!
As a young detective with a knack for getting herself killed 5 times during a single evening I don’t judge your chances of survival highly. At least you got chicken!
Every night you MUST send the hosts travisscrissman and LightWolf “Night X - Woo I outlived <alias>” in this very conversation. You will show your condolences to the recently deceased alias of an ally, but better them than you for once! With your expertise at dying it will not be hard to take up whatever role they played in this town. You are no one trick pony though, you want a permanent role, no one time gigs.
You are allied with the Busty, you win if all those who oppose you are dead.
Lynne’s alias is: Barry Zuckerkorn
Barry had backed up Even Night Bodyguard. At the time of being the CORNERED BEAST his role was raplaced by the Essence of the Busty. He gained the highest priority in the game, a Hook, a Kidnap, a Nightly Kill and a single time LPV.
Thank you for playing and hope at least 3 out of 13 enjoyed this game at least or something, I will write up a postgame even if it kills me, because I care about this project a lot.
Also Yeti DOUBLE WON(second one being a SHAMEFUL WIN SHE DIDN'T DESERVE BOO). This is due to her being the first one to guess my alias theme and getting the secret alias LightWolf. Should anyone have tried to jokingly vote or target me, this alias would have perished.
I had fun in this game and won, what more can I ask?
I admit that I played horribly, but it seems unconventional strategies seemed to work. Too bad I never got around suiciding on a silence/kidnap...
In particular I want to thank the host travisscrissman for designing this unique game and Lightwolf the trusty cohost for going thru the project even after the earlygame subbings and lategame confusion.
GG WP all
I admit that I played horribly, but it seems unconventional strategies seemed to work. Too bad I never got around suiciding on a silence/kidnap...
In particular I want to thank the host travisscrissman for designing this unique game and Lightwolf the trusty cohost for going thru the project even after the earlygame subbings and lategame confusion.
GG WP all
this is the second game where I have allowed the secret Yeti faction to win.
I will not stand for this in future games.
I will not stand for this in future games.
This was not a good game nor was it well played, win conditions should've been 'you win if you are the first faction to lose all your guys except one'.
There was no possible way to predict that the FIRST team to fall to one person would get such overwhelming powers. Also LightWolf didn't even describe them properly in the update, Agape was HOOKED last night but his kill priority is apparently infinite.
The 'cornered beast is the deadliest' could EASILY have been interpreted as 'factions get upgrades when their members die', as was obvious the whole game. The problem was that it was NOT predictable powered-up versions of their old abilities, it was completely unrelated ones with zero counterplay like infinite priority kill or infinite priority masshook (which btw goes through safeguards).
The worst team won because it was the worst.
I'm going to chalk this one up to the 'reverse mole lol surprise' category in that the worst team won due to a ridiculously overpowered role that there was no way to predict whatsoever when it should've been between my faction and the other good faction to be chosen in kingmaker by the shitty one. The difference is that this game was A. Way worse than Everybody Votes in every possible way and B. It wasn't just one team that was overpowered but specifically the worst team which got the ridiculous upgrades, and the other teams couldn't even get them, even if they fell to one person.
Amalgamation of some of the other issues:
-Backup role having infinite prio along with hook not being informed it didn't work on the backup role (Creamy would've 100% won if the hook had worked on the backing up of the Curvy Mayor, LightWolf can attest to this I'm sure)
-Kidnap having higher priority than anything else in the game
-Hook going through safeguard (wtf is safeguard even useful for if this is the case)
-'Super inspect' giving the most vague bullshit 'clues' as to what people might get that don't actually tell you anything a normal inspect wouldn't
-Villages having 100% cleaned roles which make moling completely impossible (along with said cleaned roles being impervious to death the first 3 cycles)
-Mafia getting backup versions of EVERY ability was really stupid and not commensurate with what the villages got UNTIL there's only one person standing
-Host mistakes in role PMs (how von got 'caught' out)
-Did I mention that the worst team gets a free win only because they were the worst team?
Congratulations to Yeti though, from what I could tell you were the least bad Busty by a mile and won the second prize to boot (serious question: did I miss that this was a thing or did you just guess it)
Game should've been decided by the Busty choosing between the Curvy and the Creamy.
There was no possible way to predict that the FIRST team to fall to one person would get such overwhelming powers. Also LightWolf didn't even describe them properly in the update, Agape was HOOKED last night but his kill priority is apparently infinite.
The 'cornered beast is the deadliest' could EASILY have been interpreted as 'factions get upgrades when their members die', as was obvious the whole game. The problem was that it was NOT predictable powered-up versions of their old abilities, it was completely unrelated ones with zero counterplay like infinite priority kill or infinite priority masshook (which btw goes through safeguards).
The worst team won because it was the worst.
I'm going to chalk this one up to the 'reverse mole lol surprise' category in that the worst team won due to a ridiculously overpowered role that there was no way to predict whatsoever when it should've been between my faction and the other good faction to be chosen in kingmaker by the shitty one. The difference is that this game was A. Way worse than Everybody Votes in every possible way and B. It wasn't just one team that was overpowered but specifically the worst team which got the ridiculous upgrades, and the other teams couldn't even get them, even if they fell to one person.
Amalgamation of some of the other issues:
-Backup role having infinite prio along with hook not being informed it didn't work on the backup role (Creamy would've 100% won if the hook had worked on the backing up of the Curvy Mayor, LightWolf can attest to this I'm sure)
-Kidnap having higher priority than anything else in the game
-Hook going through safeguard (wtf is safeguard even useful for if this is the case)
-'Super inspect' giving the most vague bullshit 'clues' as to what people might get that don't actually tell you anything a normal inspect wouldn't
-Villages having 100% cleaned roles which make moling completely impossible (along with said cleaned roles being impervious to death the first 3 cycles)
-Mafia getting backup versions of EVERY ability was really stupid and not commensurate with what the villages got UNTIL there's only one person standing
-Host mistakes in role PMs (how von got 'caught' out)
-Did I mention that the worst team gets a free win only because they were the worst team?
Congratulations to Yeti though, from what I could tell you were the least bad Busty by a mile and won the second prize to boot (serious question: did I miss that this was a thing or did you just guess it)
Game should've been decided by the Busty choosing between the Curvy and the Creamy.
Mmm. I think you (Unclesam) played otherwise well, except you didn't account for sudden unpredictablity in your plans.
And regarding your comments, while a good portion of them are valid criticism, another portion at least to me seems to stem from too rigid expectations. I hunched that "cornered beast" had a double meaning and found it ultimately cool.
If you want revenge in a completely closed game with no unpredictability whatsoever, join Walrein's diplomacy game!
And regarding your comments, while a good portion of them are valid criticism, another portion at least to me seems to stem from too rigid expectations. I hunched that "cornered beast" had a double meaning and found it ultimately cool.
If you want revenge in a completely closed game with no unpredictability whatsoever, join Walrein's diplomacy game!
'You didn't account for sudden unpredictability in your plans'
Please go look up the meaning of the word unpredictable and get back to me.
And no you didn't 'hunch' anything I just convinced the Curvy to vote you off because you were a redirector and then you got insanely shitass lucky.
Please go look up the meaning of the word unpredictable and get back to me.
It means you can't plan for it dumbass
And no you didn't 'hunch' anything I just convinced the Curvy to vote you off because you were a redirector and then you got insanely shitass lucky.
There are pretty much two things that made me mentally check out of this game. This:
And my own busy schedule. Regardless of how the game was designed I feel Lightwolf deserved a more active player. When I was paying attention, all three of us in the mafia made mistakes, as did LW, so there's a lot of blame to go around. So it really felt like we were the first ones to play bad and get hurt.
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
This game was interesting. Although questionable in balancing, I find it cool when there's a twist that everyone has to readjust to. (not just saying this because my faction won)
UncleSam
When LW subbed me in I looked at the alias list and recognized a couple of them (lapine, Kobold, FMax and Atilla namely) and asked him if the aliases here were ones he'd previously had in games (BIGS2, that one recent big where we screwed each other over as mafia after my team went MIA, your Metroid game, Heartless respectively). As it turns out whoever guessed that first got the special secret alias.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HIS BIGS ALIAS WAS MISSING. RUDE.
I kinda tuned out after Ella went down since I was dead kid :(
also kids im gonna post a mafia Soon TM
When LW subbed me in I looked at the alias list and recognized a couple of them (lapine, Kobold, FMax and Atilla namely) and asked him if the aliases here were ones he'd previously had in games (BIGS2, that one recent big where we screwed each other over as mafia after my team went MIA, your Metroid game, Heartless respectively). As it turns out whoever guessed that first got the special secret alias.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HIS BIGS ALIAS WAS MISSING. RUDE.
I kinda tuned out after Ella went down since I was dead kid :(
also kids im gonna post a mafia Soon TM
There is the danger that I die tonight and I have nobody I can really 100% trust because you're all shady fucks. Therefore, I'm letting the following people know they are probably allied with each other as Busty: Agape, Yeti, rssp1, PokeguyNXB. However, one of these people is NOT allied with us (or two of these people if von is innocent). It's up to you guys to weed whoever that is out if I'm not alive. It is either Yeti or rssp1 that is not Busty. Yeti or rssp1 will not receive this bolded part of the message. It's so hard to figure out which one is not with us. Yeti is either Busty or Curvy. rssp1 is either Busty or Creamy.
Reasons I think Yeti is Curvy and rssp1 is Busty: Her buff coincides with a Curvy death (I think some people get buffed when an ally of theirs dies). Her characters are not animals, if this even matters, which also means Agape is not Busty and von is actually Busty...
Reasons I think rssp1 is Creamy and Yeti is Busty: The Curvy tried to lynch Yeti Day 2. rssp1 forgot to tell me his power was redirected once (he told me late because LW told him late and thought it wasn't relevant before I asked). He has not received a buff. DLE says Yeti didn't claim to DLE.
As you can see, there are more reasons to think Yeti is Busty.The game is probably 8v8v6. If you don't know who to get, the following are safe to kill/fuck up in some way.
Bill = von's remaining alias. Should be mafia. If von is not mafia and actually Busty, I blame LW for fucking this game up with a host error. It also means Agape is actually not Busty probably.
Cornflower blue = DLE
Nonputresence = Haunted Diamond (Curvy or Creamy)
Ralph the Wolf = Haunted Diamond (Curvy or Creamy)
Psychic and Quasimodo are who DLE suspects as mafia that claimed to him.
FMax, Mr. Jelly, Scar, and Wheaties = the rest (Curvy or Creamy)
Only focusing on getting rid of mafia is a bad idea, since then I think Curvy will outnumber us and win, so keep that in mind for the long term. If you are mafia, you should get rid of more Curvy since Busty have more deaths atm I think, or else Curvy will dominate after we are gone. :)
Also, keep in mind each team probably has a balanced amount of experienced/inexperienced mafia players.
Also some powers Curvy have: Silence, Safeguard, Inspect
Reasons I think Yeti is Curvy and rssp1 is Busty: Her buff coincides with a Curvy death (I think some people get buffed when an ally of theirs dies). Her characters are not animals, if this even matters, which also means Agape is not Busty and von is actually Busty...
Reasons I think rssp1 is Creamy and Yeti is Busty: The Curvy tried to lynch Yeti Day 2. rssp1 forgot to tell me his power was redirected once (he told me late because LW told him late and thought it wasn't relevant before I asked). He has not received a buff. DLE says Yeti didn't claim to DLE.
As you can see, there are more reasons to think Yeti is Busty.The game is probably 8v8v6. If you don't know who to get, the following are safe to kill/fuck up in some way.
Bill = von's remaining alias. Should be mafia. If von is not mafia and actually Busty, I blame LW for fucking this game up with a host error. It also means Agape is actually not Busty probably.
Cornflower blue = DLE
Nonputresence = Haunted Diamond (Curvy or Creamy)
Ralph the Wolf = Haunted Diamond (Curvy or Creamy)
Psychic and Quasimodo are who DLE suspects as mafia that claimed to him.
FMax, Mr. Jelly, Scar, and Wheaties = the rest (Curvy or Creamy)
Only focusing on getting rid of mafia is a bad idea, since then I think Curvy will outnumber us and win, so keep that in mind for the long term. If you are mafia, you should get rid of more Curvy since Busty have more deaths atm I think, or else Curvy will dominate after we are gone. :)
Also, keep in mind each team probably has a balanced amount of experienced/inexperienced mafia players.
Also some powers Curvy have: Silence, Safeguard, Inspect
LW was talking about my secret message on IRC. This was the message I sent out the night Yeti died in case you were wondering. The mafia might find it interesting.
[21:25:05]LightWolf luckily your secret message within the message
[21:25:10]LightWolf helped you nicely
[21:25:25]LightWolf as mafia were so happy when rssp1 got the secret messageless version
[21:25:34]LightWolf that they revised their actions killing Yeti
[21:25:48]LightWolf which basically busted any chance rssp1 had to mole
[21:26:06]LightWolf that was frankly a p good ruse
[21:26:23]LightWolf and I was snickering so hard when the mafia bought it
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What do you mean 'bought it', rssp1 had no chance to mole if you weren't a complete fucking imbecile (or period honestly). The Yeti kill worked out great because we eliminated ANOTHER MASS HOOK prior to its' being used and also your BG, which gave us a lot more options on who we felt comfortable killing. The fact you still thought Yeti might not be Busty as late as Night 4 is just evidence of how fucking awfully you played this game.
Also wow I realized the alias theme from the start but didn't actually comment on it now I'm sad :(
Oh and just in case it matters because it really feels like this might work. LightWolf THIS GAME WAS RIGGED
Also wow I realized the alias theme from the start but didn't actually comment on it now I'm sad :(
Oh and just in case it matters because it really feels like this might work. LightWolf THIS GAME WAS RIGGED
Also oh my god the reasons Pidge detailed are hilarious:
Reasons to think rssp1 is mafia and Yeti is not Curvy: Curvy tried to lynch Yeti, Yeti did not claim to Curvy, rssp1 lied about his night action
Reasons to think Yeti is Curvy: Her role names aren't animals
ITS SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHICH IS WHICH OMG
Reasons to think rssp1 is mafia and Yeti is not Curvy: Curvy tried to lynch Yeti, Yeti did not claim to Curvy, rssp1 lied about his night action
Reasons to think Yeti is Curvy: Her role names aren't animals
ITS SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHICH IS WHICH OMG
Nice try, but I already tried that one.
[18:04] <penguin344> yeti has a secret alias?
[18:05] <LightWolf> maybe
[18:05] <LightWolf> it's a joke alias
[18:05] <LightWolf> which will land her a "win she didn't deserve"
[18:05] <LightWolf> this is an april fools game after all
[18:05] <penguin344> i feel like I should be getting this joke
[18:05] <LightWolf> the joke is
[18:05] <LightWolf> I set myself a rule
[18:06] <LightWolf> whoever guesses my alias list theme on their own accord
[18:06] <LightWolf> gets a secret alias
[18:06] <LightWolf> that wins via survival
[18:06] <LightWolf> but dies if a condition is met
[18:06] <LightWolf> which I won't tell you
[18:06] <penguin344> do i have to say that your game is rigged
[18:06] <LightWolf> it's not and actual win anyways
[18:06] <LightWolf> it's like a badge for attending
[18:06] <LightWolf> nope that's not it
[18:05] <LightWolf> maybe
[18:05] <LightWolf> it's a joke alias
[18:05] <LightWolf> which will land her a "win she didn't deserve"
[18:05] <LightWolf> this is an april fools game after all
[18:05] <penguin344> i feel like I should be getting this joke
[18:05] <LightWolf> the joke is
[18:05] <LightWolf> I set myself a rule
[18:06] <LightWolf> whoever guesses my alias list theme on their own accord
[18:06] <LightWolf> gets a secret alias
[18:06] <LightWolf> that wins via survival
[18:06] <LightWolf> but dies if a condition is met
[18:06] <LightWolf> which I won't tell you
[18:06] <penguin344> do i have to say that your game is rigged
[18:06] <LightWolf> it's not and actual win anyways
[18:06] <LightWolf> it's like a badge for attending
[18:06] <LightWolf> nope that's not it