Heatran (Choice Scarf Revamp)

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[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Earth Power
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Dragon Pulse
move 4: Toxic / Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 112 HP / 172 SpA / 224 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

With acceptable Speed, good coverage, and a high Special Attack stat, Heatran's Choice Scarf set makes a good utility check to some of the metagame's most powerful setup sweepers, namely Volcarona, Dragonite, and Scizor. Fire Blast is Heatran's STAB move and strongest attack, dealing huge damage to any Pokemon that doesn't resist it. Earth Power is Heatran's primary coverage move, hitting Rock- and Fire-types as well as opposing Heatran that attempt to switch into Fire Blast. Heatran's third moveslot is dedicated to hitting Dragon-types. Hidden Power Ice is the best option and hits Garchomp, Dragonite, and Salamence extremely hard while also netting coverage on Ground-types such as Gliscor and Landorus-T. Alternatively, Dragon Pulse hits Latios, Latias, and Hydreigon harder and has better neutral coverage. Finally, Toxic hits bulky Water-types such as Jellicent on the switch and also cripples Pokemon such as Mew and Volcarona. Alternatively, Stone Edge allows Heatran to OHKO Volcarona and is also Heatran's best bet against Gyarados.

[ADDITIONAL SET COMMENTS]

The given Speed EVs allow Heatran to outspeed everything up to Adamant Choice Scarf Heracross, including Pokemon such as +1 Dragonite, +1 Gyarados, Choice Scarf Politoed, and Jolteon. If outspeeding the aforementioned Pokemon isn't necessary, a Modest nature with 236 Speed EVs can be used to increase Heatran's damage output while still allowing it to outpace base 120 Speed Pokemon such as Alakazam and Dugtrio. In either case, 112 HP EVs should be used to increase Heatran's durability; for instance, Life Orb Latios cannot OHKO 112 HP Heatran with Surf even after Stealth Rock damage.

Heatran has a few other options that it can use in its moveset. Lava Plume can be used in the fourth slot for a more reliable STAB attack if the team doesn't have problems with Volcarona; it also has the added bonus of potentially crippling switch-ins such as Tyranitar and Terrakion with a burn. Hidden Power Grass is Heatran's best bet against Water-types such as Rotom-W, Politoed, Keldeo, and Gastrodon, and Heatran can still use Dragon Pulse alongside it to retain coverage over Dragon-types.

Nasty Plot Celebi has great synergy with Heatran because of its ability to check and remove Water-types that can easily switch into Heatran. In return, Heatran can beat almost all of Celebi's checks—Scizor, Volcarona, Skarmory, Ferrothorn, and Gengar are all non-issues for Heatran. Depending on its set, Celebi can even Baton Pass boosts to Heatran to give it a shot at sweeping. Latios also has great synergy with Heatran, being able to check Fighting-types such as Keldeo and Breloom, which could threaten Heatran with their STAB attacks, while Heatran can remove Pokemon such as Scizor, Jirachi, and Ferrothorn, all of which can check or wall Latios. Finally, Heatran appreciates residual damage to help break down the opposing team, and for this reason Tyranitar is another good partner, as it can wear down the opposing team with Stealth Rock and sandstorm while also removing common Heatran switch-ins such as Latios, Latias, and Jellicent with Pursuit. Choice Scarf Heatran fits very well on sand teams in general because of its ability to beat sun teams, checking dangerous sun sweepers such as Venusaur while also being less prone to being trapped by Dugtrio, due to outspeeding it.
 
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ok.im not qc but just want to share some opinions: i personally don't think the ev spread is the best tbh, while running timid you only need enough speed for scarftoed (heracross ?.?) and i don't think you need max satk to accomplish anything and since it has a lot of resistances some hp investment helps to take better outrages, dmeteors, crunch, shadow balls, etc. that's what i use most of the time: 112 HP / 196 SAtk / 200 Spd, timid; idr what exactly the hp investment does but it reduces sr damage and something to not being ohko by fblast kazam after sr or something like that, the spa is good enough, since you still ohko chomp after sr with hp ice, 3hko keld with ep/dpulse after sr etc. also modest variant is still good imo, especially on teams that already can handle nite, doesnt need that much speed, and the extra power is cool. i would mention this spread: 112 HP / 160 SAtk / 236 Spd, modest; enogh speed for kazam / dugtrio, same bulk, more power.

about moves, i agree hp ice is generally the better, i would mention in favor of dpulse is better in late-game situations since it has more power and better neutral coverage, like hitting waters like keld hard enough while hitting latis/chomp/hydrei etc hard.

in ac i would say it fits well in sand and weatherless teams since it gives you a good answer vs drag/sun which is very nice for those kind of teams.

very good work! hope i helped :)
 

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I think it would be better to mention Lava Plume instead of Flamethrower in OO, as it can cripple some obvious switch-ins like bulky waters ttar and such (see: the impact of the move Scald on a good bunch of matchas) and, correct me if i'm wrong, i don't think the added power from fthrower is consistantly relevant compared to those clutch burns. At least some mention on the same line would be neat. That's cool stuff otherwise, good work :)
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Earth Power
move 3: Hidden Power [Ice] Ice / Dragon Pulse
move 4: Toxic / Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
EVs evs
: 112 HP / 172 SpA / 224 Spe
nature: Timid

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With acceptable Speed, good coverage, and a high Special Attack stat, Heatran's Choice Scarf set makes a good utility check to some of the metagame's most powerful setup sweepers, namely Volcarona, Dragonite, and Scizor. Fire Blast is Heatran's STAB move and strongest attack, dealing huge damage to any Pokemon that doesn't resist it. Earth Power is Heatran's primary coverage move, hitting Rock- and Fire-types, and also as well as (I'm grammatically required to remove that comma and at that point this looks better) opposing Heatran that attempt to switch into Fire Blast. Heatran's third moveslot is dedicated to hitting Dragon-types. Hidden Power [Ice] Ice is the best option and hits Garchomp, Dragonite, and Salamence extremely hard while also netting coverage on Ground-types such as Gliscor and Landorus-T. Another option Alternatively, (haha yeah unlike an adverb or complete clause afaik it's not desirable to have some suspended noun right there. I honestly think even a comma after DPulse is better because taking into account the context of the remainder of the sentence DPulse pretty much has become a non-essential part, but admittedly it is iffy and I don't want to make Weebl mad so I'm gonna go with this n_n) Dragon Pulse hits Latios, Latias, and Hydreigon harder and has better neutral coverage. Finally, Toxic hits bulky waters such as Jellicent on the switch (RC) while also crippling Pokemon such as Mew and Volcarona. Alternatively, Stone Edge allows Heatran to OHKO Volcarona and is also Heatran's best bet against Gyarados.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The given Speed EVs allow Heatran to outspeed everything up to Adamant Choice Scarf Heracross, including Pokemon such as +1 Dragonite, +1 Gyarados, Choice Scarf Politoed, and Jolteon. If outspeeding the aforementioned Pokemon isn't necessary, a Modest nature with 236 Speed EVs can be used to increase Heatran's damage output while still allowing it to outpace base 120 Speed Pokemon such as Alakazam and Dugtrio. In either case, 112 HP EVs should be used to increase Heatran's durability; for instance, Life Orb Latios cannot OHKO Heatran with Surf even after Stealth Rock damage.</p>

<p>Heatran has a few other options that it can use in its moveset. Lava Plume can be used in the fourth slot for a more reliable STAB attack if the team doesn't have problems with Volcarona; it also has the added bonus of potentially crippling switch-ins such as Tyranitar and Terrakion with a burn. Hidden Power [Grass] Grass is Heatran's best bet against Water-types such as Rotom-W, Politoed, Keldeo, and Gastrodon, and Heatran can still use Dragon Pulse alongside it to retain coverage over Dragon-types.</p>

<p>Nasty Plot Celebi has great synergy with Heatran, and can for its ability to check and remove Water-types that could otherwise easily switch into Heatran. In return, Heatran can beat almost all of Celebi's checks - Scizor, Volcarona, Skarmory, Ferrothorn, and Gengar. Depending on its set, Celebi can even Baton Pass boosts to Heatran to give it a shot at sweeping. Latios also has great synergy with Heatran, being able to check Fighting-types such as Keldeo and Breloom, (AC) who which could threaten Heatran with their STAB attacks, while Heatran can remove Pokemon such as Scizor, Jirachi, and Ferrothorn, all of which can check or wall Latios. Finally, Heatran appreciates residual damage to help break down the opposing team, and for this reason Tyranitar is another good partner, as it can wear down the opposing team with Stealth Rock and sandstorm (RC) while also removing common Heatran switch-ins such as Latios, Latias, and Jellicent with Pursuit. Choice Scarf Heatran fits in very well with sand teams in general because of its ability to beat sun teams, checking dangerous sun sweepers such as Venusaur (RC) while also being able to outspeed Dugtrio making it less prone to being trapped by Dugtrio due to outspeeding it.</p>



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[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Earth Power
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Dragon Pulse
move 4: Toxic / Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 112 HP / 172 SpA / 224 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With acceptable Speed, good coverage, and a high Special Attack stat, Heatran's Choice Scarf set makes a good utility check to some of the metagame's most powerful setup sweepers, namely Volcarona, Dragonite, and Scizor. Fire Blast is Heatran's STAB move and strongest attack, dealing huge damage to any Pokemon that doesn't resist it. Earth Power is Heatran's primary coverage move, hitting Rock- and Fire-types as well as opposing Heatran that attempt to switch into Fire Blast. Heatran's third moveslot is dedicated to hitting Dragon-types. Hidden Power Ice is the best option and hits Garchomp, Dragonite, and Salamence extremely hard while also netting coverage on Ground-types such as Gliscor and Landorus-T. Alternatively, Dragon Pulse hits Latios, Latias, and Hydreigon harder and has better neutral coverage. Finally, Toxic hits bulky waters Water-types such as Jellicent on the switch and while also crippling cripples Pokemon such as Mew and Volcarona. Alternatively, Stone Edge allows Heatran to OHKO Volcarona and is also Heatran's best bet against Gyarados.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The given Speed EVs allow Heatran to outspeed everything up to Adamant Choice Scarf Heracross, including Pokemon such as +1 Dragonite, +1 Gyarados, Choice Scarf Politoed, and Jolteon. If outspeeding the aforementioned Pokemon isn't necessary, a Modest nature with 236 Speed EVs can be used to increase Heatran's damage output while still allowing it to outpace base 120 Speed Pokemon such as Alakazam and Dugtrio. In either case, 112 HP EVs should be used to increase Heatran's durability; for instance, Life Orb Latios cannot OHKO 112 HP Heatran with Surf even after Stealth Rock damage.</p>

<p>Heatran has a few other options that it can use in its moveset. Lava Plume can be used in the fourth slot for a more reliable STAB attack if the team doesn't have problems with Volcarona; it also has the added bonus of potentially crippling switch-ins such as Tyranitar and Terrakion with a burn. Hidden Power Grass is Heatran's best bet against Water-types such as Rotom-W, Politoed, Keldeo, and Gastrodon, and Heatran can still use Dragon Pulse alongside it to retain coverage over Dragon-types.</p>

<p>Nasty Plot Celebi has great synergy with Heatran because of its ability to check and remove Water-types that can could otherwise easily switch into Heatran. In return, Heatran can beat almost all of Celebi's checks - &mdash;Scizor, Volcarona, Skarmory, Ferrothorn, and Gengar. Depending on its set, Celebi can even Baton Pass boosts to Heatran to give it a shot at sweeping. Latios also has great synergy with Heatran, being able to check Fighting-types such as Keldeo and Breloom, which could threaten Heatran with their STAB attacks, while Heatran can remove Pokemon such as Scizor, Jirachi, and Ferrothorn, all of which can check or wall Latios. Finally, Heatran appreciates residual damage to help break down the opposing team, and for this reason Tyranitar is another good partner, as it can wear down the opposing team with Stealth Rock and sandstorm while also removing common Heatran switch-ins such as Latios, Latias, and Jellicent with Pursuit. Choice Scarf Heatran fits in very well with on sand teams in general because of its ability to beat sun teams, checking dangerous sun sweepers such as Venusaur while also being less prone to being trapped by Dugtrio, (AC) due to outspeeding it.</p>

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