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NOC Fallout New Vegas NOC [GAME OVER - Wastelanders Win]
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Christ I'll sub if you're seriously going to stall the game for it
Just don't hold me to any semblance of activity and there's no fucking way I am going to read what has happened so far nor am I going to even bother answering for anything Serious Bananas did or said.
Just don't hold me to any semblance of activity and there's no fucking way I am going to read what has happened so far nor am I going to even bother answering for anything Serious Bananas did or said.
Just posting to say that stalling games to wait for subs is incredibly stupid and Spiffy should feel bad for suggesting it. As soon as the game restarts, activity will drop tremendously; it's always better to just live with the one or two inactive slots, because the alternative will ruin the game.
People lose interest in forum games if it has to go on a hiatus for even a few days. Surprisingly, this didn't actually happen with Twilight Princess NOC wich was running during the 2013 DDOS attacks, but hey, my other site recently updated its forum software, and it took about 2 weeks. The mafia game they were running has completely dropped dead, and it's clearly gonna be a clean sweep for the mafia.
Thank God that we found an active sub though, because this has been a fun game so far. I don't wanna see it die ;(
People lose interest in forum games if it has to go on a hiatus for even a few days. Surprisingly, this didn't actually happen with Twilight Princess NOC wich was running during the 2013 DDOS attacks, but hey, my other site recently updated its forum software, and it took about 2 weeks. The mafia game they were running has completely dropped dead, and it's clearly gonna be a clean sweep for the mafia.
Thank God that we found an active sub though, because this has been a fun game so far. I don't wanna see it die ;(
Acklow
I am always tired. Don't bother me.
You want to know what went on hiatus and never came back?
Turnabout Engine. Now stfu about stalling and keep the game going.
If you dare think of stalling beyond this post, I will personally arrive at your front doorstep, walk up into your bedroom, sit down on your computer (and don't bother telling me there's credentials I have to go through because fuck you) and keep the game going myself if I have to and I'm not even fucking in it.
Your neighborhood mafia scumbuddy with love,
Acklow
Turnabout Engine. Now stfu about stalling and keep the game going.
If you dare think of stalling beyond this post, I will personally arrive at your front doorstep, walk up into your bedroom, sit down on your computer (and don't bother telling me there's credentials I have to go through because fuck you) and keep the game going myself if I have to and I'm not even fucking in it.
Your neighborhood mafia scumbuddy with love,
Acklow
Delaying the game was never my plan, so don't worry about that. I'm about to update, and the sub problem has been resolved, so we're good to go again with all slots active. Night results will be going out any moment.
Oh damn, I just realized we're still missing the Announcer for tonight. Update will have to wait a little longer, sadly.
It's time for an unprecedented Announcement/Update crossover!
This means we no longer need a sub for Serious Bananas. Instead, active from this post, Odd Ghost will take the place of rssp1.
Results are going out now. Do not post until I confirm everyone got his results.
Consider this your alarm clock, as a new day dawns over the Mojave. Yesterday you managed to avoid a nightkill, but this doesn't appear to be the case this time - as everyone gathers, you notice yet another decapitated body, the body of a shriveled-up old man. Next to the body lays its head, with a piece of paper stuck into its mouth. The paper reads as follows:Announcer said:
A tragedy has befallen all mankind - the visionary who built up New Vegas from the ashes of the Great War is no longer.
This means we no longer need a sub for Serious Bananas. Instead, active from this post, Odd Ghost will take the place of rssp1.
Results are going out now. Do not post until I confirm everyone got his results.
All night results should be out - as always, let me know if you think I missed anything.
This post marks the start of Day 4. Deadline is not set yet, but will be in at least 72 hours from now, and will be announced at least 24 hours beforehand.
This post marks the start of Day 4. Deadline is not set yet, but will be in at least 72 hours from now, and will be announced at least 24 hours beforehand.
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
Well.... back to the drawing board. Good news: The Courier's dead. Bad news: We're back to having no leads. If anyone has anything, please speak up
His most recent game-related post was made on Monday, saying he would be more active, but that didn't result in anything. With the subs available right now, I'd rather have someone in the game who's able to play than someone who may or may not post.
What is the courier?
I'm on page 13 (holy mother of pizza these posts are dense) and courier seems to be an assumed role in this game? is it the defacto third party role to have because it can choose to either be scum or town?
Hi, Cancerous!
Aren't you dead?
If you would be willing (and you are allowed) I would appreciate a summary of the game. It is taking a long time to read through everything. I was not expecting as much information from you guys in this game but I was pleasantly surprised (and overwhelmed lol)
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
The Courier was this game's neutral, correct. So he and one mafia are dead so as far as scum goes. I believe there's 2-3 scum still alive, though I'm not sure.
Useful contribution there, congrats. Care to do something more?
I've noticed something about Spiffy. I can't go back and check (there's actually no WiFi at my campsite, so I'm reduced to a phone) but let's take a look at Spiffy's lynching patterns, more specifically his timings. Day 1, the Cancerous lynch was extremely rushed, Spiffy being a large advocate, and HD was the second target. Day 3, once again, Amianki's lynch was extremely rushed and at the end, this also being on a very slow and inactive day. Day 2 was the anomaly here, where the scum HD was lynched. IIRC, Spiffy had been advocating his lynch all day.
So in other words, Spiffy has been "stealthing" the lynches by decreasing the users that are on at the time of the lynch target being really pushed. This is an interesting tactic for mafia to use, and can last a while without anyone noticing. Of course, I have to also address HD. I think that Spiffy pretty much betrayed his team for towniecred, and decided to satiate his own wants and needs instead of working as a team, something which I think he also did in Mario Kart NOC, where he was scum. This is why he was adamant to lynch HD the whole day.
Following this trend, Fate could be Spiffy's scumbuddy, but that's merely speculation.
Unlynch Sunny004
Lynch Spiffy
Alright. So from what I can figure, we got nothing from the lynch and anything Sunny said wasn't tainted. Which is nice I guess, but he really didn't say anything else of note.
So we're back to square one of looking for someone. So... who really are our choices?
So we're back to square one of looking for someone. So... who really are our choices?
Ok. So I am slowly trudging my way through this massive game haha. A lot more work than I thought it would be
I am developing fairly strong town reads. I am less strong on the scum reads. That is typically how I am though, so meh.
I have been playing NOC-style Mafia game for a while so I am used to this format.
Early game, I really thought that Spiffy was the hero we deserved. I found almost everything he posted to be town. However, I had a nagging suspicion in my mind that he was acting with all of this bluster and gusto in order to fool the town early on so he wouldn't be targetted by night actions and he could get his way for the first day or two and lynch people that he wanted. When people started to suspect him, a lot of their thoughts rang true with my suspicions. In good faith though, I can't really lynch Spiffy simply because what I am feeling about him is paranoia. That he is playing too aggressive/too village of a game to truly be a villager. I completely advocate our power roles sorting him out during the night (I hope that has been done by this point in the game seeing as how many people suspected him).
I hypothesized that Spiffy could have been voting for his scum buddy HD/bussing HD to tie HD to Fatecrasher for a mislynch later in the game. In the early game I did not like Fatecrasher's posts that much. It looked like Fatecrasher was posting to get his quota in and then going to do other things while the villagers ate themselves alive. Fatecrasher's "reaction" to HD thinking "I'm not scum so he has to be scum" is weird too. I agree with the push by Spiffy against Fatecrashers. Somewhere along the way I started to get paranoid of Spiffy and one of the manifestations of my paranoia was that Fatecrashers was being tied to a HDscum for a later mislynch. Looking forward and cheating in my reread a little bit, I can see that Fatecrasher is probably town given he confirmed his power so this hypothesis does have some merit. Seriously, someone needs to investigate Spiffy.
That said, I do have some strong town reads from the first day.
I think Jal is fairly town for the discussion he tried to create by painting a target on his back. That is something I have done as town and that is something that I can see town doing in format like this (am I right that NOC-style games are usually not run here?).
I think LightWolf is town mainly for his push against Spiffy who was widely townread at the time he started pushing and general strong presence in the town.
I also think vonFielder is town for his interaction with Moi. I found that to be super organic (naturally developed) and I don't see scum putting that much effort in to try and frame a townie.
I also think Celever is town for the interactions that he had with Spiffy.
I really disliked ButteredToast's early game and was prepared to vote him. It looked like a newb trying to play up the newb card so that he would not be suspected. I played for a while on this called EpicMafia and when I first started playing there a lot of older players would try to "trick" newbs into telling them their roles by asking what icon was next to newb's name on the newb's client (this is the representation of the role, so a doctor looks like a doctor, a cop a cop, etc). It was very easy to get people to think you were a villager as a newb by saying the what the villager looked like. But then ButteredToast said a few comments that made me believe he actually had no idea what was going on (I think it was related to Jal but I can't remember right now). So I think ButteredToast is probably villager.
I also think Sunny is probably town for his late Day 1 posting about disliking circumstantial evidence. I found that to be a newb tell that seems town in my opinion but Fatecrasher's 502 I think is a good catch that Sunny might not have wanted to vote a buddy.
I know hindsight is 20/20 but I really disliked Ullar's teaching post towards HD at the beginning of the game. That seems like an older mafia player trying to teach a younger mafia player. Do the mafia get to talk outside of this thread at any time? Or can they only talk during the night?
I think PokeNGuy, or whatever name he has, is trying to skirt by without drawing any real attention to himself. I really hate his 533. That could easily be trying get two mislynches.
Sad to see LightWolf go. Not that surprising in my opinion. I think Spiffy's play on the second day is helping qualm my paranoia about him. I had a similar feeling about the post restriction and the announcer. Why would mafia want to tie the two together? It doesn't make sense. Anyway, if that post restriction is fake, that is really weird that the hosts allowed him to fake it. Oh well.
I am now starting to get paranoid of Celever for that catch on Haunted.
I need to stop doing acid. *looks around*
ButteredToast looks better on the second day too, especially around discussing Spiffy and trying to discern his motivations/formulating a plan based off the things that we know. She does say von v Spiffy is villager v villager which is meh.
Ok, at this time I am kinda skimming a lot of things because there is simply too much to read and a lot of is arguing over the person I know to be confirmed scum so the burden isn't there.
Phew... Ok. I made it to the end although my habits at the end of the night of the game are not necessarily the best. :P
Town reads (Strongest to weakest): Spiffy, Fatecrashers, vonFielder, ButteredToast, Celever, Jalmont, sunny, PokeGuy, Mithril
vote: Mithril
Spiffy, why would they not target you again if they removed your BP?
I am developing fairly strong town reads. I am less strong on the scum reads. That is typically how I am though, so meh.
I have been playing NOC-style Mafia game for a while so I am used to this format.
Early game, I really thought that Spiffy was the hero we deserved. I found almost everything he posted to be town. However, I had a nagging suspicion in my mind that he was acting with all of this bluster and gusto in order to fool the town early on so he wouldn't be targetted by night actions and he could get his way for the first day or two and lynch people that he wanted. When people started to suspect him, a lot of their thoughts rang true with my suspicions. In good faith though, I can't really lynch Spiffy simply because what I am feeling about him is paranoia. That he is playing too aggressive/too village of a game to truly be a villager. I completely advocate our power roles sorting him out during the night (I hope that has been done by this point in the game seeing as how many people suspected him).
I hypothesized that Spiffy could have been voting for his scum buddy HD/bussing HD to tie HD to Fatecrasher for a mislynch later in the game. In the early game I did not like Fatecrasher's posts that much. It looked like Fatecrasher was posting to get his quota in and then going to do other things while the villagers ate themselves alive. Fatecrasher's "reaction" to HD thinking "I'm not scum so he has to be scum" is weird too. I agree with the push by Spiffy against Fatecrashers. Somewhere along the way I started to get paranoid of Spiffy and one of the manifestations of my paranoia was that Fatecrashers was being tied to a HDscum for a later mislynch. Looking forward and cheating in my reread a little bit, I can see that Fatecrasher is probably town given he confirmed his power so this hypothesis does have some merit. Seriously, someone needs to investigate Spiffy.
That said, I do have some strong town reads from the first day.
I think Jal is fairly town for the discussion he tried to create by painting a target on his back. That is something I have done as town and that is something that I can see town doing in format like this (am I right that NOC-style games are usually not run here?).
I think LightWolf is town mainly for his push against Spiffy who was widely townread at the time he started pushing and general strong presence in the town.
I also think vonFielder is town for his interaction with Moi. I found that to be super organic (naturally developed) and I don't see scum putting that much effort in to try and frame a townie.
I also think Celever is town for the interactions that he had with Spiffy.
I really disliked ButteredToast's early game and was prepared to vote him. It looked like a newb trying to play up the newb card so that he would not be suspected. I played for a while on this called EpicMafia and when I first started playing there a lot of older players would try to "trick" newbs into telling them their roles by asking what icon was next to newb's name on the newb's client (this is the representation of the role, so a doctor looks like a doctor, a cop a cop, etc). It was very easy to get people to think you were a villager as a newb by saying the what the villager looked like. But then ButteredToast said a few comments that made me believe he actually had no idea what was going on (I think it was related to Jal but I can't remember right now). So I think ButteredToast is probably villager.
I also think Sunny is probably town for his late Day 1 posting about disliking circumstantial evidence. I found that to be a newb tell that seems town in my opinion but Fatecrasher's 502 I think is a good catch that Sunny might not have wanted to vote a buddy.
I know hindsight is 20/20 but I really disliked Ullar's teaching post towards HD at the beginning of the game. That seems like an older mafia player trying to teach a younger mafia player. Do the mafia get to talk outside of this thread at any time? Or can they only talk during the night?
I think PokeNGuy, or whatever name he has, is trying to skirt by without drawing any real attention to himself. I really hate his 533. That could easily be trying get two mislynches.
Sad to see LightWolf go. Not that surprising in my opinion. I think Spiffy's play on the second day is helping qualm my paranoia about him. I had a similar feeling about the post restriction and the announcer. Why would mafia want to tie the two together? It doesn't make sense. Anyway, if that post restriction is fake, that is really weird that the hosts allowed him to fake it. Oh well.
I am now starting to get paranoid of Celever for that catch on Haunted.
I need to stop doing acid. *looks around* ButteredToast looks better on the second day too, especially around discussing Spiffy and trying to discern his motivations/formulating a plan based off the things that we know. She does say von v Spiffy is villager v villager which is meh.
Ok, at this time I am kinda skimming a lot of things because there is simply too much to read and a lot of is arguing over the person I know to be confirmed scum so the burden isn't there.
Phew... Ok. I made it to the end although my habits at the end of the night of the game are not necessarily the best. :P
Town reads (Strongest to weakest): Spiffy, Fatecrashers, vonFielder, ButteredToast, Celever, Jalmont, sunny, PokeGuy, Mithril
vote: Mithril
Spiffy, why would they not target you again if they removed your BP?
Odd Ghost So...looking through your post I don't see my name until you say I'm the weakest town read and then voting for me. Would you mind actually explaining why you're voting for me so I can respond to something? I can't really say anything about what Ullar did, but I'd be happy to give explanations for my play.
Otherwise, I need to read through the last two days again, so I'll do that and try to get a post up later this afternoon or tonight.
Otherwise, I need to read through the last two days again, so I'll do that and try to get a post up later this afternoon or tonight.
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