[LLAMA - QuarterFinals] Gale Wing Srock vs P2X7

Frosty

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Mud Sport for 3a



Hp: 52
En: 60
2/4/7/5/100
Other: sleep (1a)
Item: Mega Stone


Hp: 66
En: 89
2/5/5/5/86
Other:
Item: Everstone



Hp: 74
En: 75
3/2/5/3/141
Other:
Item: Rare Candy


Spikes (1)


Hp: 76
EN: 79
3/3/5/2/141
Other:
Item: Rare Candy

Hp: 78
En: 84
3/3/1/3/50
Other:
Item: Mega Stone

Round 5!

I am sorry that this has become a festival of technicalities, but it is my duty as ref to ref according to the rules, not the intentions. With that in mind...

On the handbook there is this part about cooldown:

"Note that, even if a combo is feasible, it can still be interrupted by effects like flinch and full paralysis, so always order something on the cooldown action in the form Cooldown (Alternative action)."

There isn't anything like that for sleep talk. Reason? Technically "Cooldown (Fire Blast)" has one order (Fire Blast) that may or not be executed depending on whether the mon is under cooldown or not. You could feasibly do stuff like Frozen (Fire Blast) or Flinch (Fire Blast) or Sleep (Fire Blast) or even just "Fire Blast" (that is what the trainer would yell at the pokemon to be more precise) as it will have the same end result. BUT with Sleep Talk (X - Y - Z - A) (Pain Split) you have 2 orders on the same action and it isn't the same as sleep (Pain Split) or just plain "pain split" (you won't say "Pain Split", but "Sleep Talk (X-Y-Z-A) and Pain Split if you are awake". You are trying to use a "IF awake A1 THEN Pain Split" sub without using the slot, which can't be done, sorry.

So I will ignore the "(Pain Split)" from A1. I checked this with IAR and he agrees with me. The fact that it is a pretty clear case means that there won't be reorders due to that. Unless you get other mods to vow for your interpretation.

DATA:

ACTION 1!

Greninja used Gunk Shot! (-8en)
Crit: 13 (no)
Effect: 8 (no)
Damage: (12+3+2-1.5)*1.5= 23.25hp

Gardevoir woke up!

Gardevoir used Sleep Talk! (-4en)
but it failed!

ACTION 2!

Gardevoir used Shadow Sneak! (-4en)
Crit: 9 (no)
Damage: 4+3-1.5= 5.5hp

Greninja used Gunk Shot! (-11en)
Crit: 7 (no)
Effect: 9 (no)
Damage: (12+3+2-1.5)*0.67= 10.38hp

ACTION 3!

Greninja used Dark Pulse! (-5en)
Crit: 12 (no)
Effect: 5 (no)
Damage: (8+3+2)*1.5= 19.5hp

Gardevoir fainted!

- - -


Hp: KO
En: KO
2/4/7/5/100
Other: sleep (1a)
Item: Mega Stone


Hp: 66
En: 89
2/5/5/5/86
Other:
Item: Everstone



Hp: 74
En: 75
3/2/5/3/141
Other:
Item: Rare Candy


Spikes (1)


Hp: 70
EN: 55
3/3/5/2/141
Other: Dark-Typed
Item: Rare Candy

Hp: 78
En: 84
3/3/1/3/50
Other:
Item: Mega Stone

Gale Wing Srock sends out pokemon with item
P2X7 orders
Gale Wing Srock orders
I Ref
 
Low Kick - Ice Beam - Grass Knot
IF Greninja is a Ghost-type when you would act, use Night Slash that action instead.
IF Greninja is a Steel-type when you would act, use Low Kick that action instead.
IF Greninja is in the evasive stage of a successful D/E move when you would act, use Dig that action instead.
 

Frosty

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Hp: 74
En: 75
3/2/5/3/141
Other:
Item: Rare Candy


Hp: 66
En: 89
2/5/5/5/86
Other:
Item: Everstone


Spikes (1)


Hp: 70
EN: 55
3/3/5/2/141
Other: Dark-Typed
Item: Rare Candy

Hp: 78
En: 84
3/3/1/3/50
Other:
Item: Mega Stone

Round 6!

Gale finally decides to keep things simple and KOes P2X7's Greninja through a very smart choice of moves. And once again it is his match to lose. Hopefully we should be able to get a clear end in the next couple of rounds, assuming none of both players forget the important stuff.

Also seriously, never EVER let your greninja face a greninja while you are ordering first, you will get all bad parts of protean and your opponent gets all good parts of it.

DATA:

ACTION 1!

G-Greninja used U-Turn! (-5en)
Crit:15
Damage: (7+3+2)*1.5= 18hp

P-Greninja used Low Kick! (-5.5en)
Crit:1
Damage: (6+3+2+3)*0.67= 9.375hp

ACTION 2!

G-Greninja used Extrasensory! (-6en)
Crit:2
Effect:7
Damage: (8+3+2+4.5)*1.5= 26.25hp

P-Greninja used Ice Beam! (-7en)
Crit:3
Effect:4
Damage: (9+3+2+3)=17hp

ACTION 3!

P-Greninja used Grass Knot! (-5.5en)
Crit:15
Damage: (6+3+2+3)= 14hp

G-Greninja used Blizzard! (-8en)
Hit:29
Crit:11
Effect:2
Damage: (11+3+2+4.5)*1.5= 30.75hp

P-Greninja fainted!

Greninja returns to pokeball!

Rotom is sent out!

- - -


Hp: 34
En: 56
3/2/5/3/141
Other:
Item: Rare Candy


Hp: 66
En: 89
2/5/5/5/86
Other:
Item: Everstone

Spikes (1)


Hp: KO
EN: KO
3/3/5/2/141
Other: Dark-Typed
Item: Rare Candy

Hp: 78
En: 84
3/3/1/3/50
Other:
Item: Mega Stone
Mawile is sent out!
Gale Wing Srock orders
P2X7 orders
I Ref
 
Switching to Greninja w/Rare Candy

Hydro Pump ~ Scald ~ Hydro Pump

IF Mawile uses Damaging Electric Type moves, THEN use Mat Block on the first instance, Double Team (2 Clones) on the second instance, and Dig on the third instance, and restart the queue on every instance.

IF Mawile uses Damaging Fairy Type moves, THEN use Hidden Power on the first instance, and COMBO (Hidden Power + Hyper Beam) on the second instance, and restart the queue on every instance.

IF your first and second substitution did not trigger, AND Mawile is not under the effects of a P/E move that action, AND Mawile is not under the effects of Taunt that action, AND the remaining energy of Mawile is greater than 75 when you would act, THEN use Taunt that action instead and restart the queue.

*Frosty, If the third substitution is illegal then please let me know.
 

Frosty

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I suppose I should probably make this explicit.

Gale's third sub is to be read as "IF your first and second substitution did not trigger on the current action (...)". Since the wording was dubious before, P2X7 has 24h to reorder, or I will take the orders as is.
 

Frosty

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Sub is legal IMO



Hp: 34
En: 56
3/2/5/3/141
Other:
Item: Rare Candy


Hp: 66
En: 89
2/5/5/5/86
Other:
Item: Everstone


Spikes (1)


Hp: 78
En: 84
8/5/1/4/50
Other:
Item: Mega Stone
Round 7!

Holy shit I can't believe my eyes! This is finally finishing! Yiiipeeee

erm

P2X7 manages to get rid of Greninja....at the cost of half his mawile's hp and turn-order advantage. While it isn't impossible, P2X7 will need a very very very very very good round to survive here, let alone win.

But let's see how it pans out.​
DATA:

Spikes!

Intimidate!

ACTION 1!

Greninja used Hidden Power! (-4en)
Crit: 15 (no)
Damage: (6+3+2+1.5)= 12.5hp

Mawile used Play Rough! (-6en)
Hit: 2 (yes)
Crit: 12 (no)
Damage: (9+3+2+8)*0.67= 14.74hp

ACTION 2!

Greninja used Mat Block! (-6en)

Mawile used Thunder Punch! (-6en)
Damage: (8+2+8)= 18 (-4.5en)

ACTION 3!

Greninja used Hydro Pump! (-8en)
Crit: 6 (no)
Damage: (11+3+2+1.5)= 17.5hp

Mawile used Metal Burst! (-11en)
Damage: 17.5*1.25= 21.87hp

Greninja fainted!

- - -


Hp: KO
En: KO
3/2/5/3/141
Other:
Item: Rare Candy


Hp: 66
En: 89
2/5/5/5/86
Other:
Item: Everstone


Spikes (1)


Hp: 36
En: 61
8/5/1/4/50
Other:
Item: Mega Stone
Rotom is sent out!
P2X7
Gale Wing Srock
I Ref
 

Its_A_Random

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IAR EDIT: You have been over DQ enough times so this is your last warning. Go over DQ to the minute from here on in and I will DQ you unless Gale does not want to be as co-operative.
With that in mind and Gale being in a winning position, calling DQ on P2X7. Also this has gone on for two long though crazy rulings did not help.

Frosty if you may?
 

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