Also to be fair I'm taking two math classes at uni but my parents wouldn't care if I dropped out probably
Okay caught up. I'm just going to state outright that the person I have found most suspicious today and late D1 is
Da Letter El. The connection between him and Gale has been pointed out a lot and we now have a flip on Gale. I find it more concerning from DLE's standpoint that Gale was a townie, a townie suspicious of him and who had a relationship with him that DLE made minimal effort to refute or address, only enhance (something something not had relations with that woman).
Da Letter El is not inactive. The posts are low-effort. Theres a difference. I'm sure DLE has way more of a life than most of us but the thing is he has contributed quite often to this thread, which makes him quite distinguishable from the actual inactives like
PokeguyNXB and
acidphoenix whose primary contributions are deflecting from their inactivity. I mean obviously since DLE is a better player and knows not to be dead weight regardless of whatever he is, you would expect a modicum of contribution. My problem is the amounts of them and that he is constantly on the offensive, except when
UncleSam called him out. As of writing he has 53 posts in this thread. But almost none of them are useful for understanding what DLE thinks about the game because he mostly only posts one-line refutations of thought and asks questions of the inactives. I really dislike this method of play. And you may disagree with me that that is necessarily scummy or player meta or w/e, but personally I find it a form of playing under the radar. I might've missed one of the posts in my search but the only real comments DLE has made about anyone's actual probable alliance involve protecting Gale, talking about Spiffy and Celever, and warning against the Haunted Diamond lynch. This is some stunning hindsight for someone who has never made any apparent efforts to logic out the village, identifying correctly 2/2 'noobtowns' in a host of inactives and struggling players, with only one mistake onto Spiffy which you can quite easily argue was a setup for a mislynch (and partly came from the PoV that he was warning against the Haunted lynch). I say one mistake because I don't know about Celever yet. But the Celever read was literally this
Celever is probably my top scum atm but I haven't read all of his posts that in depth because there's a lot of them and a lot of yelling at Gale that I really don't want to have to sort through. I was about to do more analysis of the two of them as well as why I think Haunted is a below average lynch.
Not a read, not substantive, very safe target. SPIFFY was the audacious target IMO and DLE's 'read' on Spiffy was literally admittedly gut.
sorry was typing that out. Atm leaning spiffy or celever. Spiffy usually jumps out to me as obvious town when he's town and he hasn't done that so I'd be down for a Spiffyroll. I am missing the Spiffy godreads that I'm so used to seeing from the outside looking in that he never ends up pursuing because he's a pussy.
DLE is a gut player, so thats fine by me and makes sense, even if its very lazy (which I accept either way because DLE is busy and writing 53 one-liners is harder than writing one 53-liner post). But there is no elaboration on Celever in the same vein.
Re. the Gale relationship, Gale wanted to lynch DLE as early as S1 after which DLE took a more benevolent attitude toward him and started to lay low (theres been like nothing out of DLE except responses to Uncle Sam that have been commented on their questionableness). US claimed to drop that line of questioning towards him because DLE is indistinguishable from the other inactives. Why did you drop that point so easily just to go back to hounding acidphoenix, Sam? So I'm going to ask that US consider or reconsider this point and then reconsider that comment at least. Anyway back to Gale. Sorry I just literally crawled out of bed. I find this kind of omniscience about a player that nobody could read with confidence very worrying. As I've stated, I'm fine with attributing a lot of what DLE does to gut play; it's what makes him such a formidable player IMO. However from my PoV if you're
confident in a read you know is gut then you should at least attempt to back it up and communicate it to other players, that instinct cannot have materialised spontaneously. So the entire lack of interactions with anyone except that set of users is alarming, where is the gut reaction to people like Sam or Yeti or TIK or PokeguyNXB?
I am going to compare and contrast to one of the other more experienced players in this game,
Walrein, in order to make my point a bit clearer. Walrein also oft protests about his activity and has at least put his money where his mouth is by requesting a sub. He has 25 posts and a lot of them are small metacommentaries. But when he makes actual posts they are generally thought-out. By thought-out I do not even mean sound arguments, just that he (very clearly wants to demonstrate) he has put in effort in them. This in itself has been commented on as coming off as disingenuous and excessively considered. I forget who said that tho. However Walrein did post an entire reads post two weeks ago (lol). Unfortunately I cannot ask him to comment on his DLE read because he will just post asking to be subbed again. Like DLE he entirely picks on inactives and Pokeguy. But he is never on the offensive, always on the defensive. Do I think this behaviour looks excessively clean? No not really. It's lazy and ambivalent (on DLE himself he spat out a paragraph of waffling nullread that advocated against a lynch due to not yielding info, lol, but that was two weeks ago so... you see my problem) but it does suggest some intent to engage regardless of whether he is town or mafia, which is why I am using Walrein as the illustrative point. To continue this line of thought I need to know if/who Walrein subbed in for [anyone]. But perhaps you can see the point I am making, that DLE's playstyle does not IMO demonstrate very serious intent to engage from the PoV he is a townie whereas it very much does from the PoV he is scum. The inactivity does add a lot of noise to that ratio and DLE knows it.
