New Substitution Rules

[Frosty]

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/new-substitution-rules.3547157/

Council members only.

We are voting on this:

1. A substitution is made of a "Trigger" and a "Result"
2. Substitutions either activate, or they don't.
   • The result of a Substitute's "activation" can be changed by instance, but the trigger never changes.
3. Substitutions activate whenever the trigger's conditions are met, and the result of that activation is legally usable.
4. All clauses of a substitution's trigger must narrow it's scope.
5. Substitutions based on knowing something can only trigger after that thing is known. (e.g if the opponent crits a2 then counter that action is legal if you were already going to move second a2, but illegal otherwise). (If you know something, your Pokemon knows it). Attack clauses activate based on what would currently be used according to the main order set.
6. Player 1 can substitute for Attacks, Chance, and KOs. Player 2 can substitute for Chance and KOs.
   • All clauses can be appended by 'NOT'.
7. If a substitution causes an infinite loop, then it is ignored. If two or more substitutions would cause an infinite loop, ignore the substitution made by the player who ordered later. If the substitutions were ordered at the same time (Either a single player ordering, or in brawl orders where all player orders are treated as simultaneous), then both are deemed illegal.
8. If, ordering second, your substitution would cause the Trigger of an opponent's substitution which has already legally activated to no longer have it's unknown conditions met (Such as 'AND NOT Encore next action), then it is ignored.
9. In each sub, each action (Action 1, Action 2, Prior action, etc.) can only have one attack clause per Pokémon Out.

Our proposal is that this replaces the core sub rules and we add the extra fluff we have (aka Sub classes, KO Subs, Anti-Pedant Rule, Substitution interaction and pushing back subs and recent Anti-Loop rules)

Voting is a simple Yay or Nay. BUT If Nay is chosen, you gotta say why. Because if not you will just be rude.

Frosty
S0L1D G0LD
Rainman Legends
Mowtom
deadfox081

 

[Frosty]

Yay

I feel those are better and simpler. Of course, this will pass through countless tweaks. But I feel it is a better starting point to work with. Or hope so.

 

[Mowtom]

Yay

I don't see any problems with this

 

[Rainman Legends]

Yay

Not exactly an overhaul, but it patches a lot of holes in our current system

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