The Everything some hero (NFL) Thread - 2015-16 Season

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It's too bad Big Ben has had so many injuries and weird INTs this year or he'd at least be able to challenge Brady for it. As it stands now nobody is even in the same ballpark.
There is literally very little difference between Big Ben, Eli, Brees and Rivers these past two years. Why Big Ben somehow gets placed above them is beyond me. With that team he should be dropping Peyton 2013 stats but he doesn't because he isn't the best qb any year(what it takes to be an MVP). Even with a ridiculous amount of weapons his stats are marginally better than those mentioned. Big Ben is not in the Brady, Rodgers and Pre-Injury Peyton, sorry.

Cam Newton should win the award if they win more games than the pats. Brady has an all time great player in his offense, while Newton is doing it by himself. If the Panthers win more games than the Pats, Newton deserves it for such an incredible year.
 
newton is not doing anything by himself. his QBR ranking is like 21 out of a possible 30 QBs (and that is with his rushing contributions taken into account). he hasn't been accurate whatsoever either. the strength of the panthers is their defense (their pass defense to be specific) and their run game. newton is the posterboy with the great smile who dabs and gives little kids footballs. if you wanna talk about a QB who could challenge brady for the MVP, talk about carson palmer ffs.
 

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There is literally very little difference between Big Ben, Eli, Brees and Rivers these past two years. Why Big Ben somehow gets placed above them is beyond me. With that team he should be dropping Peyton 2013 stats but he doesn't because he isn't the best qb any year(what it takes to be an MVP). Even with a ridiculous amount of weapons his stats are marginally better than those mentioned. Big Ben is not in the Brady, Rodgers and Pre-Injury Peyton, sorry.

Cam Newton should win the award if they win more games than the pats. Brady has an all time great player in his offense, while Newton is doing it by himself. If the Panthers win more games than the Pats, Newton deserves it for such an incredible year.
You talk about all of big Bens weapons as though he's not the main reason they are so productive in the first place. You need look no further than Mike Wallace, santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress to see that Ben makes his receivers look like superstars rather than the other way around. Those guys were studs in Pittsburgh, and the second they went elsewhere to lesser qbs they fell off the face of the earth. To further illustrate my point, look at Emmanuel sanders. He is the only notable Pittsburgh receiver to replicate or improve his production in a new home, and you know why? Because he had Peyton Manning throwing to him. Big Ben is not in the goat conversation like brady and manning, and he's not the best in the game currently like Rodgers, but he is certainly elite and the best of that class of 04. His stats are leaps and bounds better than Eli, and he's better than rivers too (albeit marginally). He's repeatedly shown the ability to carry his team in the past and this season. Even trying to imply he's in any way similar to your Eli is silly.
 

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DM is a bills fan lol.

So basically you're saying that because Pittsburgh was on the better end of a couple controversial calls in a super bowl ten years ago, it's ok for them to screwed by them today? Two wrongs don't make a right
 
They're calling this the Kick Six on the Cleveland post game. Though half of my Browns fan friends were rooting for the Ravens today so that Petine gets fired and the Browns can get the number one pick.

Browns fans rooting for the Ravens...
 

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so the refs give sherman an int by not calling interference and then decide that pushing a guy in bounds right as he gives himself up is a late hit.

Earlier they decided that batting a ball sidewaysout of bounds on an onsides kick is legal. refs are overrated.
Refs ridin seattle's dick as usual
fuck seattle and their refs. That whole game was bullshit, Sherman had about 14 illegal contacts that were not called, and that decided the game. They got dominated and literally handed the game by fluky ass interceptions and poor referee calling. Disgusting.
welcome to Seattle



lmao @ the patriots no longer undefeated. eat the peasants' dirt.
 
People that complain about officiating should first remember that the NFL is run by absolute morons and Goodell who is the king of morons .

So moronic officials and rules should be expected.
 
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It doesn't take a master's degree and a research project to know that officials are imperfect and biased against away teams (but here's a summary of one anyway).

I'm not sure this is thrown around a lot, but I seem to remember upwards of 30% of the referees this year being new hires (that is, new to NFL but had obviously officiated in lower levels). It's no surprise, they are essentially part timers that have to memorize a huge rulebook and make gut calls about things we can criticize with slow-mo HD replays. It's not exactly a job I would want, that's for sure.

Complaining about rules is perfectly valid tho, like the catch rule which is pretty spelled out but the calling of it is inconsistent at best and near-random at worst.

newton is not doing anything by himself. his QBR ranking is like 21 out of a possible 30 QBs (and that is with his rushing contributions taken into account). he hasn't been accurate whatsoever either. the strength of the panthers is their defense (their pass defense to be specific) and their run game. newton is the posterboy with the great smile who dabs and gives little kids footballs. if you wanna talk about a QB who could challenge brady for the MVP, talk about carson palmer ffs.
QBR is a shit statistic though, both the new one and the old one (unsure which you are referring to but it doesn't really matter). PFF has Cam as the 4th most valuable QB this year, with his legs accounting for nearly half of his value. This takes into account his receivers, run game, and game situation, so it's not a bad indicator at how good he has been this year.

Still, you're probably right, #2 is Brady and #1 is Palmer himself (#3 is Roethlisberger, noteworthy because of the missed games). Still, Palmer is too old to be on muh elite quarterbacks lists said everyone ever. /s
 
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We all know referees are human and the job is exceedingly difficult. This is why penalties (at least some) should be reviewable and/or challengable so we can correct mistakes before they change the outcome of the game. Also mistakes you can't prevent, but bias you can (Richard Sherman gets the gold treatment every damn game)
 
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