I'm just trying to put more nails in the coffin, you guys. It's cool.
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Gen VII: Pokémon Sun and Moon (New info Post #5834)
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What I'm wondering is if the new little woodpecker friend will be as competitively viable as the Fletchling family.
Special Attacker with Gale Wings!
Seems woodpecker-ish. No idea on typing for that. ;p
Anyways...how could you forget the Starly line? I mean its not as great as Talonflame but its no pre-Mega Pidgeot, Unfezant, Noctowl, or Swellow.
Priority gust and a "wooden" woodpecker? I've waited 20 years for this. Fuck yes Gamefreak you've done it again
This game is set in the Mega timeline or in the good one?
Staraptor was a better in-game than Talonflame.Talonflame needs HA,Staraptor doesn't.
Unless this guy gets a pre evo you will get only 2
Nothing to worry here since there's a clause but since you can transfer Pokemon from Gen 1, that means No Guard Fissure Machamp is a thing. (Use an Ability Capsule if it has Guts) :o
To me, this heavily implies that Sun and Moon is a Gen 2 style game with a return to Kalos. There is still a lot of story to be told regarding Zygarde, and it doesn't make sense that Pokemon would just drop that. They're hyping this game with phrases like "It all comes together" so I highly doubt they would do absolutely nothing to wrap up that story. I saw people comparing Zygarde to ultimate dragon, but there's a fundamental difference: the ultimate dragon was just lore. We actually have the Zygarde forms, it has moves in the games, its something way more concrete and fleshed out. I can't see them abandoning that story when they're clearly investing in it. The only other way I can see them wrapping up that story is with a short XY event which is guess possible...
For those not familiar with the theory, there is some evidence that SuMo will relate to Kalos:
- XY were the first games of this new mega universe, and in them you get the Kanto starters. This relates them to Kanto
- There's a sundial in XY and someone says something about a lunardial in another region
- Kalos has unfinished business
- Other points but I can't find where I read it
Oh gods. That means the new mechanic will be we can fully revive one Pokémon per battle.
Either that, or it allows Pokémon to evolve beyond Stage 2.
Just kidding?
I have a couple quick thoughts.
-I hope this new generation continues and wraps up Zygarde's story. It would be a nifty way to add to the world building. Connecting the Pokémon world beyond generations is always a good thing.
-This is just SUPER far off speculation, but if these new games get a sequel/followup, they'd be on the future NX. which would be another first for the series. Continuing a generation on a new system. Opens up tons of possibilities.
I mean i know the US site says it is a "new era" of Pokemon but i opened the page in Italian and the first thing i read is:
for who doesn't know generazione is generation in italian so yeah might be an error or something since all the other languages i know use "era" (which is a perfectly legitimate italian term lol) but yeah i dont think there is any reason to think these games will be still of the sixth gen.
Ace emerald's scenario is what i really expect since this will be probably be based on England (there is also the Greenwich observatory there which might be related to the Moon and Sun or whatever). Pretty excited
for who doesn't know generazione is generation in italian so yeah might be an error or something since all the other languages i know use "era" (which is a perfectly legitimate italian term lol) but yeah i dont think there is any reason to think these games will be still of the sixth gen.
Ace emerald's scenario is what i really expect since this will be probably be based on England (there is also the Greenwich observatory there which might be related to the Moon and Sun or whatever). Pretty excited
Just read the news on Serebii while researching a moveset for a competitively viable Pokémon I received on Wonder Trade. The news creates mixed feelings for me, because I would have liked to travel through Kalos one more time (with the new Zygarde forms of course), so I'm very disappointed, and yet I'm also excited that we're definitely receiving new Pokémon, and likely a new region to explore, but this likely means that there will be no Battle Frontier (and I'm afraid they might not even make the new Zygarde forms playable).
I'd like to stay around, chat and read, but wouldn't you know it, I've come down with a cold, and feel dizzy and weak as a result! I'll just have to play catch up when I feel better (and more importantly, am not contagious! The only reason I'm here is because my parents have gone to the market!).
My guess is that this is also why they've been so silent for the past half year!
P.S. Reminder to self: when you get better, I have posts to catch up on as far as Monday.
I'd like to stay around, chat and read, but wouldn't you know it, I've come down with a cold, and feel dizzy and weak as a result! I'll just have to play catch up when I feel better (and more importantly, am not contagious! The only reason I'm here is because my parents have gone to the market!).
My guess is that this is also why they've been so silent for the past half year!
P.S. Reminder to self: when you get better, I have posts to catch up on as far as Monday.
Well, "nuova" means "new", so...I mean i know the US site says it is a "new era" of Pokemon but i opened the page in Italian and the first thing i read is:
for who doesn't know generazione is generation in italian so yeah might be an error or something since all the other languages i know use "era" (which is a perfectly legitimate italian term lol) but yeah i dont think there is any reason to think these games will be still of the sixth gen.
Ace emerald's scenario is what i really expect since this will be probably be based on England (there is also the Greenwich observatory there which might be related to the Moon and Sun or whatever). Pretty excited
Plus, it's beyond obvious it's a new generation.
This is my guess as well. It's a new gen, with a new region and new pokemon and everything, but it's right next door to kalos and you go there later in the game (like with johto) to deal with the zygarde stuff.
Man people can be really fast with new pokemon art.
Credit to ImNotSteven on GAF with speculative art on the new bird poke.
Credit to ImNotSteven on GAF with speculative art on the new bird poke.
It's already been confirmed to be Gen 7I mean i know the US site says it is a "new era" of Pokemon but i opened the page in Italian and the first thing i read is:
for who doesn't know generazione is generation in italian so yeah might be an error or something since all the other languages i know use "era" (which is a perfectly legitimate italian term lol) but yeah i dont think there is any reason to think these games will be still of the sixth gen.
Ace emerald's scenario is what i really expect since this will be probably be based on England (there is also the Greenwich observatory there which might be related to the Moon and Sun or whatever). Pretty excited
Adding to this, remember what the great addition to the game was when Gold & Silver debuted? Night & day! Lugia and Ho-Oh were both represented primarily in the night and day.
Plus, a "continuation-new generation" is what Johto was to Kanto. A lot of Johto Pokemon were originally designed along the original 151.
The story wasn't meaty, like Kanto's.
AND, you have a train & power plant in Kalos.
I really want to know what the engine is like. It feels wrong to assume that it is to XY as Bw was to HGSS, but who knows. Maybe it's the exact same but with new assets (and hopefully a better colour palette on the Pokémon models).
I know region talk is basically wishlisting, but I'm cool with pretty much anything (though obviously a Kalos revisit is preferred). Personally, a UK + surroundings themed region means a shot at having my country be pokemonified, which I obviously approve of, but if it's just GB or England ((or anywhere else really)) then it's still a net positive for me since I won't have to spit teeth over people using the term ""British Isles"" during discussion. Lots of positives either way IMO.
It is a little bit of a concern that the few SM things we saw in the video were clearly only taken shortly after the conceptual stage. I hope it was filmed ages ago, because the idea that they only started two or so months ago scares the shit outta me.
I know region talk is basically wishlisting, but I'm cool with pretty much anything (though obviously a Kalos revisit is preferred). Personally, a UK + surroundings themed region means a shot at having my country be pokemonified, which I obviously approve of, but if it's just GB or England ((or anywhere else really)) then it's still a net positive for me since I won't have to spit teeth over people using the term ""British Isles"" during discussion. Lots of positives either way IMO.
It is a little bit of a concern that the few SM things we saw in the video were clearly only taken shortly after the conceptual stage. I hope it was filmed ages ago, because the idea that they only started two or so months ago scares the shit outta me.
I would imagine they were, because building a new generation is the kind of thing that would likely partially explain the waiting time, and then they held off until today to get maximum bang for the buck. By the way, it's still the 26th here in the West, so I was kinda surprised it was today.
Anyway, let's talk consoles. Mid-generation console-hopping is bad business, so: do they feel the 3DS has the lifespan to fit two entire generations (remember, we need a third version/sequels/remakes), or has the NX been delayed for some reason?
Also, there's the suggestion that this region will pull a Johto and give us access to Kalos following the completion of the new region. That would be very cool, provided they don't botch the level curve like they did in the Johto games.
I believe this new region will introduce only a few new pokemon like Kalos did. I'm guessing somewhere between 50 and 70.
In addition, it will likely contain Kalos in the game much like Gold and Silver included Kanto. I think we all forgot about the hint drops in X and Y about another region, like the berries in the guide and the hiker. Let's not forget data mining showed X/Y and ORAS are compatible with two more games, meaning moon and sun were planned all along as the unconventional sequels we were told x and y were going to get that would not be like previous sequels (as in not like a Z or X/Y2).
Call it gen 6.5 or gen 7, I think it was planned from the start to extend and grow Kalos into a fuller region or simply use it as a supplement to something else.
In addition, it will likely contain Kalos in the game much like Gold and Silver included Kanto. I think we all forgot about the hint drops in X and Y about another region, like the berries in the guide and the hiker. Let's not forget data mining showed X/Y and ORAS are compatible with two more games, meaning moon and sun were planned all along as the unconventional sequels we were told x and y were going to get that would not be like previous sequels (as in not like a Z or X/Y2).
Call it gen 6.5 or gen 7, I think it was planned from the start to extend and grow Kalos into a fuller region or simply use it as a supplement to something else.
Moon version is holding a revive because it knows how badly is going to lose against THE SUN.
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