We also see Zygarde 10% using both Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves, hitting Metagross for surprisingly low super-effective damage.
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We also see Zygarde 10% using both Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves, hitting Metagross for surprisingly low super-effective damage.
What ability did Zydog trigger?
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Zygarde perfects Z attack will now forever associate it with zorro in my mind. I cannot unsee it.
Seeing the transformation blanked out in that footage worries me slightly. I'm willing to bet that it's transformations into the next form are going to be a slow start like ability where it transforms each turn until finally reaching the 100% form
180 HP is by far the most for a legendary. Only behind Blissey, Chansey, and Wobbuffet overall. Also, it would indicate a base HP increase of 72! Giratina, for reference has a base HP of 150.
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So there's been a lot of speculation on the base HP of Zygarde formes, based on my calculations using smogon's own damage calc (and adjusting the base HP to fiddle around):
10% forme has 125 max HP at level 50, so it has between 50 and 65 base HP depending on IVs (assuming no EV investment). If full (252 EVs) investment, it's between 18 and 34 base HP.
Complete forme has 287 max hp, so it has between 212 and 227 base HP. If full investment, it's between 180 and 196 base HP.
Personally, I think 10% forme will have 54 base HP, and complete forme will have 216 base HP. Why? Because 54*2=216/2=108, which is the base HP of 50% forme (the one currently released). This means the zygarde shown has 22 IVs and 0 EVs investment (and this checks out with what the calc gives!)
10% forme has 125 max HP at level 50, so it has between 50 and 65 base HP depending on IVs (assuming no EV investment). If full (252 EVs) investment, it's between 18 and 34 base HP.
Complete forme has 287 max hp, so it has between 212 and 227 base HP. If full investment, it's between 180 and 196 base HP.
Personally, I think 10% forme will have 54 base HP, and complete forme will have 216 base HP. Why? Because 54*2=216/2=108, which is the base HP of 50% forme (the one currently released). This means the zygarde shown has 22 IVs and 0 EVs investment (and this checks out with what the calc gives!)
But... we already has Snubbull and Granbull, though. Ｉ doubt they'd make another bulldog since it looks like a spitz or Akita.
It kinda makes sense for it to have a ridiculous HP stat if being on low health is a requirement to transform.
It's just speculation. It doesn't have to be a bulldog, though it would be a pretty cool pun.
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I don't think it's an ability.
I think it's a forme change.
Holy balls. I did not expect this to come out of the news today... This has thrown out even more questions though! :(
Is this the first time a pokemon changes Base Hp in mid-battle, right? It was made clear Megas do not change base Hp and Form change same I think they don't have a hp change up until now. The only pokemon with Hp change in different formes is Gourgeist with the diferent sizes and that is only with wild or breeding.
Aren't these the only different formes to have different hp stats?
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Yes, because Mega evolutions do not have HP changes during mega evolution.
I'm excited by it in a way.
Zygarde 10% has 125HP at level 50, so its highest possible HP stat is 60.
Meanwhile perfect seems to have 282HP at level 50, which means the lowest possible HP stat is 175.
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Meanwhile perfect seems to have 282HP at level 50, which means the lowest possible HP stat is 175.
I for one accept our new broken overlord.
Could they not be connected, like how Stance Change on aegislash is just an ability that triggers a forme change?
If it needs to be on low HP to transform, it makes sense that it would need a bigger HP stat to make up for it.
Not necessarily! Zydog changed form to Zymecha only when it's health was in a pinch, if the trainer has to jump through hoops to get the forme change active, like with meloetta, Zygarde could end up being useless...
Japanese Pokemon YT channel just released those 2 videos we saw from Taiwan Pokemon championship with Zygarde 1 hour ago.
Now we can see more clear how they look, and Perfect Zygarde's cry.
The Z Ray has super effective sounds on Garchomp it might be a Dragon type attack.
It looks the form change is an ability because the blue HUB when abilities activate is there as Z 10% animation to Z 100% happens.
The second video starts with Garchomp damaged, could it mean Zygarde 10% is faster than base 102 base speed and I think Perfect Form has more than 102 Base speed too.
Now we can see more clear how they look, and Perfect Zygarde's cry.
The Z Ray has super effective sounds on Garchomp it might be a Dragon type attack.
It looks the form change is an ability because the blue HUB when abilities activate is there as Z 10% animation to Z 100% happens.
The second video starts with Garchomp damaged, could it mean Zygarde 10% is faster than base 102 base speed and I think Perfect Form has more than 102 Base speed too.
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Or another theory - it changed forme when it took super effective damage.
How would this help it beat Yveltal?
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Japanese official trailer is up!
In Japanese, it's called "Swarm change"
The new move is called "Core Punisher"
In Japanese, it's called "Swarm change"
The new move is called "Core Punisher"
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