Swampert (Non-Mega Wide Guard)

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[OVERVIEW]

(Mega Swampert's Overview here)

Aside from its Mega forme, Swampert is also able to find a small niche due to its access to Wide Guard and great anti-meta coverage that allows it to take advantage of the users of spread moves that are stopped by Wide Guard, including Landorus-T, Mega Diancie, Volcanion, and Heatran. Additionally, it matches up quite well against common threats such as Talonflame, Thundurus, Jirachi, and Aegislash. Its bulk is well complemented by a strong defensive typing, making up for Swampert's low Speed that forces it to move last or close to it most turns. Like its Mega counterpart, base Swampert suffers from a lot of competition in its role on teams, primarily from Gastrodon, which offers a reliable form of recovery and a better ability in Storm Drain. Aside from Gastrodon, other bulky Water-types like Suicune and Wide Guard users such as Aegislash and Conkeldurr often fill Swampert's role on teams better than Swampert can. Although its coverage is nothing to be scoffed at, Swampert's Special Attack stat is far from impressive, leaving its attacks quite weak against resisted or neutral targets.

[SET]
name: Non-Mega Support
move 1: Scald
move 2: Earth Power
move 3: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
move 4: Wide Guard
item: Sitrus Berry
ability: Damp / Torrent
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 44 Def / 156 SpA / 56 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Scald serves as Swampert's primary STAB attack, as it has decent power and can chip away at foes with the helpful chance to burn. Earth Power is Swampert's strongest accurate attack, which grants Swampert helpful coverage against threats such as Volcanion and Steel-types such as Aegislash and Jirachi. Ice Beam fills out Swampert's coverage, giving it an option to hit Grass- and Dragon-types that resist its STAB moves while also allowing Swampert to OHKO Landorus-T and deal significant damage to Thundurus. Although Icy Wind is far weaker than Ice Beam, the speed control it provides can greatly help Swampert's teammates with more middling Speed. Wide Guard protects Swampert's allies from any spread attack and fits well on Swampert's moveset due to its good matchup against spread attackers such as Mega Diancie, Heatran, and Landorus-T. Hydro Pump is a viable alternative to Scald; while the drop in accuracy is quite noticeable, so is the increase in power, granting Swampert the ability to OHKO Mega Diancie without a boosting item.

Set Details
========

The given EV spread, when accompanied by a Sitrus Berry, allows Swampert to avoid the 2HKO from Aegislash's Shadow Ball or Talonflame's Brave Bird. Alternatively, an Expert Belt set increases the power behind Swampert's moves and is usable due to its fantastic super effective coverage, though it loses out on the longevity provided by a Sitrus Berry. A Quiet nature is used instead of a Modest one so that Swampert can hit Aegislash in its Blade forme and improve its functionality inside of Trick Room, and its low Speed means that any investment will rarely help under normal field conditions anyway. Damp prevents the rare Explosion Landorus-T or Genesect from dealing major damage to Swampert's team, or Torrent powers up Scald when Swampert is low on health. Both abilities are situational at best, so the choice between the two rarely makes a difference.

Usage Tips
========

Use Wide Guard as necessary, otherwise leaning on Swampert's decent coverage to hit many common threats. A lack of Protect can leave Swampert vulnerable to weather sweepers and Fake Out, so it may need to be switched out to avoid taking unnecessary damage. Swampert should generally be saved to beat the threats it defeats especially well, such as Landorus-T, Thundurus, and Heatran. With its solid bulk, Swampert should be able to switch in on those threats and defeat them with ease. However, due to its solid matchup against common leads such as Landorus-T and Thundurus, it can function well as a counter-lead to those threats. Due to its low Speed, Swampert should only rarely be saved for endgame scenarios, as it is unlikely to be able to clean opposing teams.

Team Options
========

Any Pokemon that is weak to common spread moves can benefit from Swampert's partnership. Especially noteworthy options include Intimidate users such as Scrafty and Gyarados, which also augment Swampert's bulk, and setup attackers such as Volcarona, Kyurem-B, and Mega Charizard X. Fire-types such as Talonflame, Mega Charizard Y, and Infernape beat Grass-types and appreciate Swampert's Wide Guard stopping Earthquake and Rock Slide. Heatran synergizes particularly well with Swampert, taking advantage of its Wide Guard support to set up Substitutes and remove threatening Grass-types. Dragon-types tend to perform fairly well against Swampert, so teammates to defeat them such as Sylveon and Mega Diancie can serve Swampert quite well. Ice-types are able to defeat Dragon- and Grass-types, so partners such as Weavile and Mega Abomasnow can operate well with Swampert as a partner. Generally speaking, Swampert's anti-meta coverage and defensive utility allow it to fit fairly well on any team, but there are few teams on which it would not be outclassed, so before adding Swampert, make certain that Gastrodon, Suicune, or other Wide Guard users such as Conkeldurr and Aegislash would not better serve the team.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

(Mega Swampert's OO Here)

If Mega Abomasnow is being used beside base Swampert, Blizzard can provide solid, accurate spread damage that Swampert would otherwise be unable to deal.

Checks and Counters
===================

(Mega Swampert's C&C Here)

**Taunt**: Taunt users such as Gengar and Gyarados prevent non-Mega Swampert from using Wide Guard to protect its allies.
 
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was ebelt a thing? I feel like some distant memory in my head is saying that ebelt was what this was first posted as wherever this set came from..
 

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theres already a swampert analysis on site, so i dont think ur supposed to include an overview/options/cc. but, seeing as theyre really different (mega and nonmega) ur overview / oo / cc should specify nonmega swampert so that that specific information gets added to the dex too. so like, your overview for nonmega swampert gets added to the end of the current overview is what im thinking. ur site staff so u could do that. im not sure if it works like that though

Overview
  • switch the positions of the last and second to last bullet to indicate what swampert has over the other dudes and why he isnt completely outclassed. additionally, unlike many bulky waters, swampert can stand its ground against the common thundurus + landorus-t lead, making it a strong anti-meta threat
Moves
  • why run protect if using icy wind? i personally dont see why, especially if wide guard is its main niche as u said in the overview
  • ice beam also lets it be a better check to landorus, i dont think scald ohkoes
Set Details
  • damp over torrent, theyre both bad abilities but damp is generally more applicable against the powerful yet uncommon explosion landorus / genesect. torrent is basically useless anyway
  • expert belt should be in other options, not here
Usage Tips
  • saying that swampert shouldnt be switching in is weird, considering how its meant to be a bulky mon. say instead that it should be saved to beat threats that it beats especially well, such as landorus, thundurus, and talonflame
Team Options
  • scrafty and gyarados improve swampers bulk with intimidate and both benefit from wide guard support
  • examples of things that benefit from wide guard (to help them set up)? volcarona, charx, cube
Checks & Counters
  • no specific pokemon tags, instead make a water type attackers tag and include rotom-w and other waters in there since swampert loses to pretty much every water
vm/post with any questions
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Implemented, thanks!

Somehow totally forgot about writing this for a specific set instead of a full analysis, despite having just recently uploaded Mega Swampert's revamp. I've edited the affected sections to reflect that the information here will be added on after Mega Swampert's corresponding sections.
 
overview:
  • saying it has a "decent" matchup vs jirachi and thundurus is really underselling it considering the reason i use gastro/pert a lot of the time is specifically to beat these two. a bit nit picky but
  • it has a lot more than passable bulk, it's bulkier than amoonguss o_o also i think throughout the skeleton you overvalue scald burns. you get a lot less time to fire them off in a doubles format and while it's nice when you get one it's only in like ~10% of your games because you're usually sniping stuff with coverage or wide guarding in practice
set:
  • move ebelt into set details at the very least and i would most definitely consider a slash. you need it for the diancie ohko and the guaranteed 2hko on non lefties aegislash which are absolutely huge benchmarks.
  • hydro probably deserves set details because of the additional power allowing it to ohko diancie without ebelt
team options:
  • specify wide guard conk when you mention it because it took me a few times reading that for it to make sense lol
  • it works really well with subtran so specifically mention that one
OO:
  • sr doesn't even seem half bad on this thing though i've never used that so don't add that if you don't want to


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Overview
  • I would mention competition from other WG users (Aegis, Conk)
Set
  • If you're mentioning Torrent shouldn't that be a slash here idk.
Usage Tips (lol) - gets a bit more reachy near the end, add at own discretion
  • Due to how common double genies are as a lead, I would mention using Swampert as a "counter-lead" if you're expecting them (or just say that it can do well against common leads like Lando-t).
  • Not completely sure on the best way to phrase it, but like if you have a spread weak partner out against Lando, you can protect it and bring in Pert quite safely to WG on following turns since it's choice locked.
  • Since Swampert has pretty decent bulk, I would mention switching into stuff like lando/thund/heatran/rachi that can't really damage you too well.
  • I would maybe say Swampert is best used early/mid-game unless you want to preserve WG, since it's slow and usually gets worn down before late-game but idk.
  • Not completely sure about this being the right place but no Protect leaves it vulnerable to FO.
  • Maybe something about how some teams have a solid switch-in like amoon/rotom-w but some don't affecting how you use it but idk.
Tean Options
  • When mentioning stuff to use over Swampert, if you're mentioning WG conk I would maybe mention Aegis as well.
  • Mention Mega Aboma since you have a specific point for it in OO, could be worth mentioning slow speed making it usable under TR as well maybe.
Other Options
  • Having used SR Pert a bit I don't think it's that great, especially when the moveset is hard pressed already.
 

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[OVERVIEW]

(Mega Swampert's Overview here)

Aside from its Mega forme, Swampert is also able to find a small niche due to its access to Wide Guard and great anti-meta coverage. This coverage that allows it to take advantage of the users of spread moves that are stopped by Wide Guard, including Landorus-T, Mega Diancie, Volcanion, and Heatran. Not only that, but Additionally, (AC) it matches up quite well against common threats such as Talonflame, Thundurus, Jirachi, and Aegislash. Its bulk is well supported complemented by a strong defensive typing, making up for Swampert's low speed that forces Swampert it to move last or close to it most turns. Like its Mega counterpart, base form Swampert suffers from a lot of competition in its role on teams, primarily from Gastrodon, (AC) which offers a reliable form of recovery and a better ability of in Storm Drain. Aside from Gastrodon, other bulky Water-types like Suicune and Wide Guard users such as Aegislash and Conkeldurr often fill Swampert's role on teams better than Swampert can. Although its coverage is nothing to be scoffed at, Swampert's Special Attack stat is far from impressive, leaving its attacks quite weak against resisted or neutral targets.

[SET]
name: Non-Mega Support
move 1: Scald
move 2: Earth Power
move 3: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
move 4: Wide Guard
item: Sitrus Berry
ability: Damp / Torrent
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 44 Def / 156 SpA / 56 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Scald serves as Swampert's primary STAB attack, as it has decent power and can chip away at opponents with the helpful chance to burn. Earth Power is Swampert's strongest accurate attack, which grants Swampert helpful coverage against threats such as Volcanion and Steel-types such as Aegislash and Jirachi. Ice Beam fills out Swampert's coverage, giving it an option to hit Grass- and Dragon-types that resist its STAB moves (RC) while also allowing Swampert to OHKO Landorus-T and deal significant damage to Thundurus. Although Icy Wind is far weaker than Ice Beam, the speed control it provides can greatly help Swampert's teammates with more middling Speed. Wide Guard protects Swampert's allies from any spread attack (RC) and fits well on Swampert's moveset due to its good matchup against spread attackers such as Mega Diancie, Heatran, and Landorus-T. Hydro Pump is a viable alternative to Scald; while the drop in accuracy is quite noticeable, so is the increase in power, granting Swampert the ability to OHKO Mega Diancie without a boosting item.

Set Details
========

The given EV spread, when accompanied by a Sitrus Berry, allows Swampert to avoid the 2HKO from Aegislash's Shadow Ball or Talonflame's Brave Bird. Alternatively, (AC) an Expert Belt set increases the power behind Swampert's moves and is usable due to its fantastic super effective coverage, though it loses out on the longevity provided by a Sitrus Berry. A Quiet nature is used instead of a Modest one so that Swampert can hit Aegislash in its Blade forme and improve its functionality inside of Trick Room, as and its low Speed means that any investment will rarely help under normal field conditions anyway. Damp prevents the rare Explosion Landorus-T or Genesect from dealing major damage to Swampert's team, or Torrent powers up Scald when Swampert is low on health. Both abilities are situational at best, so the choice between the two rarely makes a difference.

Usage Tips
========

Use Wide Guard as necessary, otherwise leaning on Swampert's decent coverage to hit many common threats. A lack of Protect can leave Swampert vulnerable to weather sweepers and Fake Out, so it may need to be switched out to avoid taking unnecessary damage. Swampert should generally be saved to beat the threats it defeats especially well, such as Landorus-T, Thundurus, and Heatran. With its solid bulk, Swampert should be able to switch in on those threats and defeat them with ease. However, due to its solid matchup against common leads such as Landorus-T and Thundurus, it can function well as a counter-lead to those threats. Due to its low speed, Swampert should only rarely be saved for endgame scenarios, as it is unlikely to be able to clean opposing teams.

Team Options
========

Any Pokemon that is weak to common spread moves can benefit from Swampert's partnership. Especially noteworthy options include Intimidate users such as Scrafty and Gyarados, that which also augment Swampert's bulk, and setup attackers such as Volcarona, Kyurem-B, and Mega Charizard X. Fire-types such as Talonflame, Mega Charizard Y, and Infernape beat Grass-types and appreciate Swampert's Wide Guard stopping Earthquake and Rock Slide. Heatran synergizes particularly well with Swampert, taking advantage of its Wide Guard support to set up Substitutes and remove threatening Grass-types. Dragon-types tend to perform fairly well against Swampert, so teammates to defeat them such as Sylveon and Mega Diancie can serve Swampert quite well. Ice-types are able to defeat Dragon- and Grass-types, so partners such as Weavile and Mega Abomasnow can operate well with Swampert as a partner. Generally speaking, Swampert's anti-meta coverage and defensive utility allow it to fit fairly well on any team, but there are few teams on which it would not be outclassed, so before adding Swampert, make certain that Gastrodon, Suicune, or other Wide Guard users such as Conkeldurr or and Aegislash would not better serve the team.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

(Mega Swampert's OO Here)

If Mega Abomasnow is being used beside base form Swampert, Blizzard can provide solid, accurate spread damage that Swampert would otherwise be unable to deal.

Checks and Counters
===================

(Mega Swampert's C&C Here)

**Taunt**: Taunt users such as Gengar and Gyarados prevent non-Mega Swampert from using Wide Guard to protect its allies.
 
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[OVERVIEW]

(Mega Swampert's Overview here)

Aside from its Mega forme, Swampert is also able to find a small niche due to its access to Wide Guard and great anti-meta coverage that allows it to take advantage of the users of spread moves that are stopped by Wide Guard, including Landorus-T, Mega Diancie, Volcanion, and Heatran. Additionally, it matches up quite well against common threats such as Talonflame, Thundurus, Jirachi, and Aegislash. Its bulk is well complemented by a strong defensive typing, making up for Swampert's low Speed that forces it to move last or close to it most turns. Like its Mega counterpart, base Swampert suffers from a lot of competition in its role on teams, primarily from Gastrodon, which offers a reliable form of recovery and a better ability in Storm Drain. Aside from Gastrodon, other bulky Water-types like Suicune and Wide Guard users such as Aegislash and Conkeldurr often fill Swampert's role on teams better than Swampert can. Although its coverage is nothing to be scoffed at, Swampert's Special Attack stat is far from impressive, leaving its attacks quite weak against resisted or neutral targets.

[SET]
name: Non-Mega Support
move 1: Scald
move 2: Earth Power
move 3: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
move 4: Wide Guard
item: Sitrus Berry
ability: Damp / Torrent
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 44 Def / 156 SpA / 56 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Scald serves as Swampert's primary STAB attack, as it has decent power and can chip away at opponents foes with the helpful chance to burn. Earth Power is Swampert's strongest accurate attack, which grants Swampert helpful coverage against threats such as Volcanion and Steel-types such as Aegislash and Jirachi. Ice Beam fills out Swampert's coverage, giving it an option to hit Grass- and Dragon-types that resist its STAB moves while also allowing Swampert to OHKO Landorus-T and deal significant damage to Thundurus. Although Icy Wind is far weaker than Ice Beam, the speed control it provides can greatly help Swampert's teammates with more middling Speed. Wide Guard protects Swampert's allies from any spread attack and fits well on Swampert's moveset due to its good matchup against spread attackers such as Mega Diancie, Heatran, and Landorus-T. Hydro Pump is a viable alternative to Scald; while the drop in accuracy is quite noticeable, so is the increase in power, granting Swampert the ability to OHKO Mega Diancie without a boosting item.

Set Details
========

The given EV spread, when accompanied by a Sitrus Berry, allows Swampert to avoid the 2HKO from Aegislash's Shadow Ball or Talonflame's Brave Bird. Alternatively, an Expert Belt set increases the power behind Swampert's moves and is usable due to its fantastic super effective coverage, though it loses out on the longevity provided by a Sitrus Berry. A Quiet nature is used instead of a Modest one so that Swampert can hit Aegislash in its Blade forme and improve its functionality inside of Trick Room, and its low Speed means that any investment will rarely help under normal field conditions anyway. Damp prevents the rare Explosion Landorus-T or Genesect from dealing major damage to Swampert's team, or Torrent powers up Scald when Swampert is low on health. Both abilities are situational at best, so the choice between the two rarely makes a difference.

Usage Tips
========

Use Wide Guard as necessary, otherwise leaning on Swampert's decent coverage to hit many common threats. A lack of Protect can leave Swampert vulnerable to weather sweepers and Fake Out, so it may need to be switched out to avoid taking unnecessary damage. Swampert should generally be saved to beat the threats it defeats especially well, such as Landorus-T, Thundurus, and Heatran. With its solid bulk, Swampert should be able to switch in on those threats and defeat them with ease. However, due to its solid matchup against common leads such as Landorus-T and Thundurus, it can function well as a counter-lead to those threats. Due to its low Speed, Swampert should only rarely be saved for endgame scenarios, as it is unlikely to be able to clean opposing teams.

Team Options
========

Any Pokemon that is weak to common spread moves can benefit from Swampert's partnership. Especially noteworthy options include Intimidate users such as Scrafty and Gyarados, which also augment Swampert's bulk, and setup attackers such as Volcarona, Kyurem-B, and Mega Charizard X. Fire-types such as Talonflame, Mega Charizard Y, and Infernape beat Grass-types and appreciate Swampert's Wide Guard stopping Earthquake and Rock Slide. Heatran synergizes particularly well with Swampert, taking advantage of its Wide Guard support to set up Substitutes and remove threatening Grass-types. Dragon-types tend to perform fairly well against Swampert, so teammates to defeat them such as Sylveon and Mega Diancie can serve Swampert quite well. Ice-types are able to defeat Dragon- and Grass-types, so partners such as Weavile and Mega Abomasnow can operate well with Swampert as a partner. Generally speaking, Swampert's anti-meta coverage and defensive utility allow it to fit fairly well on any team, but there are few teams on which it would not be outclassed, so before adding Swampert, make certain that Gastrodon, Suicune, or other Wide Guard users such as Conkeldurr and Aegislash would not better serve the team.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

(Mega Swampert's OO Here)

If Mega Abomasnow is being used beside base Swampert, Blizzard can provide solid, accurate spread damage that Swampert would otherwise be unable to deal.

Checks and Counters
===================

(Mega Swampert's C&C Here)

**Taunt**: Taunt users such as Gengar and Gyarados prevent non-Mega Swampert from using Wide Guard to protect its allies.
 
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