Ambipom does have that niche in RU, it's just that that niche sucks completely and should never be considered for any serious team.
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Smogon Usage-Based Tier Update: August 2016
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Can we just create a "bug" that doesn't let crappy Pokemon be selected in the teambuilder so shit like Ambipom can drop
Like a "Pokemon that are RU by usage but you shouldn't use because they are bad" section?
Pretty much
Sort of like discouraging a user but for Pokemon on PS
Or a separate section idc
Sort of like discouraging a user but for Pokemon on PS
Or a separate section idc
Ambipom's niche would be outspeeding Tauros
lol
Doing some research to see if Tauros always is better
Swellow outruns Tauros too and with Guts it hits harder than Ambipom. Unless you REALLY need that extra 5 base speed and Fake Out Tauros would be better.
MemeMeme Island Typhlosion was NU before it got banned so even if it got less usage which it should it would only be bl3.
I was joking. Was that not clear?
As I said, I will make a legit post later on the matter, I am currently away.
Not always easy to tell with text sorry I missed that.
Good to see Tornadus getting the recognition it deserves, hope more people start using Kyurem as well. I wasn't surprised to see Quagsire drop I suspect it'll be back in NU before too long
Has anyone been trying the new PU mons?
Cacturne and Muk make a very nice offensive core albeit both of them are slow
Cacturne and Muk make a very nice offensive core albeit both of them are slow
Yeah, Internet sarcasm doesn't exist XD
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Zapdos almost sees more usage than Kyurem-black... if that happens I will literally be in disbelief.
Whoops! Forgot to post last night--they're up! Sorry for the delay.
It's already getting more usage than both Mega Charizards and Mega Heracross.
OU players are dumb. Let go of Zapdos, Mew, Raikou and Jirachi
Uh no lol.
Those mons all have legitimae usage to be warranted to stay OU and zapdos has been getting more usage due to ladder tournament in being able to check the spammed bird spam team. Jirachi is also seriously good and got better why would it drop.
Kyurem-b is also an inconsistent mon. Zapdos having more usage isnt a surprise but I doubt in this instance it has to do with "OU players are dumb". Lol come on.
Those mons all have legitimae usage to be warranted to stay OU and zapdos has been getting more usage due to ladder tournament in being able to check the spammed bird spam team. Jirachi is also seriously good and got better why would it drop.
Kyurem-b is also an inconsistent mon. Zapdos having more usage isnt a surprise but I doubt in this instance it has to do with "OU players are dumb". Lol come on.
Zapdos is definitely not one of those 'mons that you just slap on a team. It's really only good on mostly stall teams or to fill a specific niche. I personally am more of a fan that it than others but I see why it's not exactly a top tier one. Something not dropping isn't always "lmao (insert tier name here) is dumb" like with Ambipom.
And Jirachu for UU?! Wat. I can somewhat get the want for Mew, Raikou and even Zapdos but Jirachi?!
And Jirachu for UU?! Wat. I can somewhat get the want for Mew, Raikou and even Zapdos but Jirachi?!
It was fine in XY UU, why would it be broken now?
There's also the fact that Jirachi is a legitimately good Pokemon in OU (and has been for a long time). It's always has really good reasons to be used since its typing allows it to check stuff like Latios and Mega Diancie and it's always had really good utility in U-turn, SR, and Healing Wish, which are all really, really good. It's also fairly versatile since it can run quite a few sets, so it's far from one-dimensional with how to use it.
It's not just necessarily about how Jirachi would potentially perform in UU (not commenting on this), it's also about the fact that it's a completely good Pokemon that is a relative metagame staple of the OU metagame, and it will continually see high usage in the tier unless its viability starts to drop dramatically. It has no reason to drop from OU because it's a staple of the tier and isn't going down in usage anytime soon. It's always been a very good Pokemon completely deserving of its OU status. There is nothing about it that makes it undeserving of usage in OU.
It's not just necessarily about how Jirachi would potentially perform in UU (not commenting on this), it's also about the fact that it's a completely good Pokemon that is a relative metagame staple of the OU metagame, and it will continually see high usage in the tier unless its viability starts to drop dramatically. It has no reason to drop from OU because it's a staple of the tier and isn't going down in usage anytime soon. It's always been a very good Pokemon completely deserving of its OU status. There is nothing about it that makes it undeserving of usage in OU.
Yep, thanks for the help :)
Where can I find the sub-folders with the moveset, item, etc stats?
Drought is banned in UU and below, so at worst Charizard Y would be BL. As for Azlef rising, WTF is wrong with you OU players? Why would you run Azelf when you can run Alakazam(-Mega)? As far as I can see, the only things it has over Zam are Fire Blast, Stealth Rock and U-turn. If you want a suicide lead, why not run Aerodactyl? It's faster than Azelf, has better typing and slightly better bulk. Is Explosion that big a deal?
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