I'll probably be in the minority, but I think the Ultra Beasts look sick! I really like swol red mosquito bro.
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Gen VII: Pokemon Sun and Moon Discussion MKII
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Yep, I said it in my first post about it. It has Zoroark-vibes, and I'm not really happy about it actually... We already have Zoroark, they could've done this werewolf form more originally.
I realised where Rockruff's evolution's name comes from: Rugarugan looks like a Japanese rendering of the word loup-garou, which (it will probably surprise no-one to learn) is French for 'werewolf'.
(In fact, loup-garou literally means 'wolf-werewolf', which is a nice tie-in to what I assume are Rugarugan's normal-wolf and werewolf forms.)
(In fact, loup-garou literally means 'wolf-werewolf', which is a nice tie-in to what I assume are Rugarugan's normal-wolf and werewolf forms.)
They are time/cycle related not version exclusives.
Meaning you can get both evolution lines in both games.
Me too tbh. I might try to avoid that particular announcement for the surprise.
Night evo is TOTALLY channeling Zoroark. And maybe Crash Bandicoot? No me gusta. But that's okay, I don't have to like everything for it to be a good addition, especially when I have a choice of two :D
UB Beauty's eyes are really freaking me out. Stop... staring D:
I still haven't read the "probably fairly accurate" leak, only picking up bits and pieces here, and briefly seeing the artwork for Litten and Popplio's evo... can someone confirm that there is a leak that suggests that the same setup applies for them as for Rockruff? Especially as it's already known that they all hide a "secret". IMO I'm rather relieved, since Pop and Litten's evos have... "interesting" designs. I like to have options, and two wildly different and polarising forms are IMO nicer to have than one middle-of-the-road design. (Although I'd rather have one middle of the road design than just one polarising design.)
What's the deal with the GO photo beside the Alola forms? They're not suggesting that transferred GO mons become Alola form, are they? That's absurd.
The Pokemon ethos has always been "catch them all", and all of the living things have always been Pokemon... except humans. So human transformation was always a strong candidate for any non-Pokemon animal, and now we have more of them that are obviously humanoid and are similar to each other in basic shape, implying a common biological route. (Eldritch monstrosities too alien to comprehend have much more variation than this in every depiction I can think of.)
At this point I think we can assume that Ultra Beasts are all modified humans, which is why they aren't Pokemon (as opposed to being Lovecraftian aliens when we already have alien Pokemon). This isn't much of a departure from series tradition and doesn't break the collectible feel of the game. It also means it won't feel too weird when we can't catch them -- humans catching other humans is just too obviously taboo.
Also my theory that Type: Null is just a codename for a restrained "actual Pokemon" and not part of the collectible set of Pokemon looks a bit more credible now. Even if not, I'm glad they didn't give a weird name to a Pokemon without making it mechanically interesting.
Edit: this leak, with UB02 being obviously Lusamine, also basically confirms that Aether are antagonists if that wasn't obvious. My guess: they love Pokemon so much that they want to become them. Should've just played Mystery Dungeon.
At this point I think we can assume that Ultra Beasts are all modified humans, which is why they aren't Pokemon (as opposed to being Lovecraftian aliens when we already have alien Pokemon). This isn't much of a departure from series tradition and doesn't break the collectible feel of the game. It also means it won't feel too weird when we can't catch them -- humans catching other humans is just too obviously taboo.
Also my theory that Type: Null is just a codename for a restrained "actual Pokemon" and not part of the collectible set of Pokemon looks a bit more credible now. Even if not, I'm glad they didn't give a weird name to a Pokemon without making it mechanically interesting.
Edit: this leak, with UB02 being obviously Lusamine, also basically confirms that Aether are antagonists if that wasn't obvious. My guess: they love Pokemon so much that they want to become them. Should've just played Mystery Dungeon.
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I'm not 100% confident, but UB-02 Beauty looks like it's based on a silverfish? Which, if true, is kinda random...
Yep, Ultra Beasts look well out of place. I'm trying not to judge until I get the games and see what the full deal with them is, but so far they aren't doing much for me.
I absolutely love the rockruff evos. I think I'll go with the day evo in my first playthrough.
I wonder how the UB are going to fight. I mean are they going to use pokemon moves or are they going to have their own moves that can only be used by them?
I wonder how the UB are going to fight. I mean are they going to use pokemon moves or are they going to have their own moves that can only be used by them?
Not a man and no harm in having opinions. But I absolutely know how people reacted to Mega Evolutions, a lack of old Pokemon in Unova and no tracker in Pokemon Go. People on forums might be accepting of them but the greater population will be harder to convince given how they originally reacted to everything else. People go crazy and hate on a game over simple things, changing too much at nce is only going to create a negative reaction for the most part no matter how it's spinned.
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UB02 beauty's "hair" looks like Lusamine's hair.
Oh, and I find it really funny it's called "beauty"-- ya, it may be thin and fashionable, and also white, but at the same time it's a bug.
Oh, and I find it really funny it's called "beauty"-- ya, it may be thin and fashionable, and also white, but at the same time it's a bug.
Rockruff evolutions are fine. Not sure which one I like more at the moment. I do agree that the night evo looks a little too much like Zoroark though.
UB Beauty looking like Lusamine only makes the ultra beasts connection to the Aether Foundation look stronger in my eyes. Speaking of the ultra beasts, I suppose I get why some people wouldn't like them, but I do. I get the feeling they're supposed to look ugly and out of place. They're like nothing we've ever seen before.
UB Beauty looking like Lusamine only makes the ultra beasts connection to the Aether Foundation look stronger in my eyes. Speaking of the ultra beasts, I suppose I get why some people wouldn't like them, but I do. I get the feeling they're supposed to look ugly and out of place. They're like nothing we've ever seen before.
Presumably UB02 Expansion will end up being Lusamine modified in some completely different way. Or UB02 will be someone else in Sun and UB03 will be Lusamine or something like that (they'll probably be codenamed in encounter order).
I'm very excited for Sun/Moon and I welcome the changes with Island Trials etc.
The progression became too predictable for me (gym->gym->ellite4) so I look forward to being surprised.
I'm going into this game without a clear idea of how it will unfold. This hasn't happened since the very first Pokemon game I played so I can't wait.
UBs don't seem to be catchable Pokemon but villainous enemies.
Being able to fight monsters you can't catch wouldn't be completely new but it'd be the first time they'd feature in the main story.
Pokestar studios opponents hinted at this possibility and it seems they're taking it to a new (Ultra :P) level.
The progression became too predictable for me (gym->gym->ellite4) so I look forward to being surprised.
I'm going into this game without a clear idea of how it will unfold. This hasn't happened since the very first Pokemon game I played so I can't wait.
UBs don't seem to be catchable Pokemon but villainous enemies.
Being able to fight monsters you can't catch wouldn't be completely new but it'd be the first time they'd feature in the main story.
Pokestar studios opponents hinted at this possibility and it seems they're taking it to a new (Ultra :P) level.
Like I and some other people have said before, I don't think Ultra Beasts are modified/mutated humans. They're most likely beasts that are simply imitating people they've bonded with and for now that's what I'm sticking with. The thought of actual human beings being turned into monsters is kinda too dark for a Pokemon game in my opinion.
At any rate, I also don't think there's enough information to safely assume anything about these Ultra Beasts so who knows really.
The Beauty Ultrabeast recalls me a manechin with this fish-like veil, articulated body and the long fingers make me think it is very lightweighted and elegant.
I look at Expansion Ultrabeast and immediately rebember of Whimpod. That name make me wonder if the crustacean red body is actualy inflated an the true forme is skinny and very weak.
Maybe she escapes in Sun and you catch it in Moon? 12 hours can be enough to make a difference.
Really liking buff mosquito.
Evolving stuff based on the time of day is probably going to be a recurring trend in Sun & Moon, it didn't really occur to me earlier but it would definitely be cool.
Rockruff's night evolution looks like something you'd see if you searched up "Mega Skuntank" on Deviantart. If anyone buying Moon is stuck with it than I might consider picking up Sun instead.
Yeah, I for one really hope Game Freak uses the 12 hour separation between Sun & Moon to create interesting differences in the games' respective plot lines.
Just for the sake of general knowledge, in general, if you name a wolf Pokemon Remus or Fenrir, the primary association won't be with harry potter characters, but with their namesake's origins - Remus, from Romulus and Remus, the twins in myth who were raised by a wolf (before Remus got fraticide-ded and then his brother founded Rome) and Fenrir, wolf-son of Loki, who'll eat the sun (and everything else) during Ragnarok after being released from his chains. Just FYI.
I really hope you can catch Eevee during the main games. It'd be a shame not to, since Eevee was the first Pokemon to flaunt the day/night evolution gimmick.
Who says they aren't? There may be new megas (Though I don't find it likely at this point, I admit) but they are just not finding them worth noting.
I do remember Mega Glalie and Mega Steelix not being revealed until after the ORAS demo, so they may be hiding them...
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