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NOC Paranoia Mafia Game Over - Mafia Wins
- Thread starter Andy Snype
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Okay the timeline for it went like this
Suddenly steven announces deadline was in 15 minutes which I thought differently
Under the assumption that fh and pancake were tied because there wasn't an updated vote count and he had a lot of votes last count and still a lot of suspicious I voted FH because I liked that lynch better after pancake's final defense though I still preferred a Texas lynch
Texas posts FH only has 1 other vote on him
I decide to switch back to texas since I'm way more confident that he is scum compared to FH
You switch off from walrein to FH then ask me to switch back to FH which I disagree with because a RNG lynch removes a lot of responsibility of the d1 lynch which is extremely bad imo
also I'm assuming if you think FH flips scum I'm more likely to be scum?
I never said pancake was a strong town read just he was slightly better than FH but not to the extent of letting a rng lynch pass imo also did you suspect texas at all?
Wayan Vistar
formerly Flyhn
Extended deadline
I reeeaaaally don't want to sub out, but recently i've been absurdly busy ;-;
If I can somehow find the time i'll conduct a mass ISO, but for now time's something I lack
I reeeaaaally don't want to sub out, but recently i've been absurdly busy ;-;
If I can somehow find the time i'll conduct a mass ISO, but for now time's something I lack
The fact 2 people are pushing FH are on my suspect list and using rly poor reasoning is extremely concerning to me also
So just...lmao. Both you and Haruno don't seem to understand how this game works. The question town has to keep asking every new day is, "are there more mafia?". This includes the first day when the host explicitly goes out of their way to say there might not be any scum at all. However, because town is designed to know absolutely nothing about mafia, the more mafia does things the better off we are.
For instance, we now know there's at least one mafia who used one of their potentially limitless (or limited) kills. What that means is that we know for certain that we should lynch someone. But then the question comes up, was there only one? In fact, I would predict that after we get the first mafia (if we do...) then the second one will probably not kill. Which leads to the troubling situation that if we kill the first and there is a second one that doesn't kill, town has no way of knowing if there truly is a second terrorist, or if there was only one terrorist and town screws themselves over by continuing to lynch an all town village.
Like I don't think fh is a terrible lynch but haruno and hawkie seems to not be thinking over things and is just hunting for blood for blood to be spilled
I meant I had him as a strong town read from my perspective. Also meh Texas is neutral for me, he is an aggressive person in general from what I've seen of his posts outside of mafia so I don't think he'd have a bad scum game, he'd be good at projecting confidence.
I did a quick iso of blazade. Had fun doing it XD
He supported ideas like lynching inactives ie: Flyhn/Om Room(betathunder)/Aubisio/Kinda Rssp1
He challenged people protecting betathunder ie: Walrein, Josh, Hawkie, Pancake
These reads are less useful because he townread Hawkie, said the logic was NA for Josh, and Pancake is dead.
Blazade Townread the talk between Haruno and Former Hope where they called each other scum.
Sources:
Conclusion:
Tbh I'm backing off of my support of a former hope lynch. Killing blazade makes little sense if scum wanted to keep former hope alive... they had other options in thetwinmasters and walrein.
Also this looks good on Haruno. Haruno has also been fairly consitant with how he played last game. I just wish he would read more because he misses a lot of key info :/
Still think Hawkie is town.
Well basically I think the way people are currently thinking is playing into scums hands :/
He supported ideas like lynching inactives ie: Flyhn/Om Room(betathunder)/Aubisio/Kinda Rssp1
He challenged people protecting betathunder ie: Walrein, Josh, Hawkie, Pancake
These reads are less useful because he townread Hawkie, said the logic was NA for Josh, and Pancake is dead.
Blazade Townread the talk between Haruno and Former Hope where they called each other scum.
Sources:
Conclusion:
Tbh I'm backing off of my support of a former hope lynch. Killing blazade makes little sense if scum wanted to keep former hope alive... they had other options in thetwinmasters and walrein.
Also this looks good on Haruno. Haruno has also been fairly consitant with how he played last game. I just wish he would read more because he misses a lot of key info :/
Still think Hawkie is town.
Well basically I think the way people are currently thinking is playing into scums hands :/
Read through the entire game again, probably won't do that any more.
- Dentricos
I feel like he's doing a good job generating his own content and putting out opinions even if others may disagree with him. That along with his posting style makes me think he's town.
- Haruno
He's posting little to no reasoning for any of his lynches, and is basically refusing to talk about the game aside from that. idt Haruno has ever played like this before, so maybe he's trying a new playstyle or something. Regardless, the way he's currently playing is v low effort and im inclined to call it scummy but the little he has posted hasnt been terrible in terms of scumminess so not sure how to feel.
- Josh
The betathunder defense was probably entirely due to them being friends. I feel like he brings up good points and explains them well while not really tunneling on anyone. He seems town to me.
- Hawkie
Still hasnt done much that would indicate alignment. He's playing like he always does, although the tunnel on former is kinda bad, I suppose.
- rssp1
- Thetwinmasters
I feel like a lot of twin's content is questioning people which isnt that good, but I remember him having brought up a lot of content on his own so he seems fairly townie to me.
- Walrein
I actually think walrein is slightly scummy for exactly one reason: almost all of his posts have been responding to people instead of him generating his own content/scumreads/etc. That's a thing that a lot of scum townleader-esque people do, so that doesnt really sit well w/ me.
- Former Hope
He's kind of similar to hawkie in that he's only focusing on a couple things, but looking back his posts are a lot townier than I thought before. I still really dislike how he wants to lynch inactives though.
- OM room
post
- Aubisio
post more
- Flyhn
Playing like he always does, although he has a lack of time which I can understand. The little he has posted seems townish.
- Texas Cloverleaf
Nullread here, although texas has a lot of content it doesnt really push me to think he's town or scum. He has said some strange things and defended them well when questioned which means I ought to townread him, but I don't. I dunno.
I think right now the likelyhood of a person being scum on the pancake vote is Texas>Hawkie>rssp1
FH push by 2 suspects of mine makes me think he could be getting turbo lynched by a mafia
I'm pretty sure a blazade kill doesn't make FH more towny/less scummy unless I'm missing a big connection there
FH push by 2 suspects of mine makes me think he could be getting turbo lynched by a mafia
I'm pretty sure a blazade kill doesn't make FH more towny/less scummy unless I'm missing a big connection there
You know what I want to hear more from haruno
Unvote Lynch Haruno
Unvote Lynch Haruno
Thetwinmasters
In context it was talking about former and haruno. Also he has consistantly opposed Former Hope getting lynched. If former isnt looking to die day 2 keeping blazade in play makes sense no?
Example #2
That argument really shouldn't be weighed heavily on your opinion on FH because you can flip that logic that FH killed blazade to make it seem like a mafia FH wouldn't kill him
i went to class
rssp1 expect some Original Contributions tomorrow if i have the time, after watching dle in acid city i completely understand that sort of scumread lol
most of the reason i've been responding to people as my primary method of contribution is that i haven't really had the time to sit down and comb through the thread for analysis, so i figure i might as well keep discussion churning in the meantime
the possibility/lack thereof of former hope killing blazade is completely WIFOM; the kill could have been former hope concerned about the scumread, or it could have been someone else wanting to frame former hope based on that, or it could have been former hope banking on us expecting the second scenario, and so on...
so i don't think that line of thinking's getting us anywhere
also i had a thought
i think optimal play if scum starts nokilling is just to no lynch until they start killing again, mexican-standoff style
chew on that while i sleep/go to class
why would mafia want to turbolynch someone who is more concerned with lynching inactives than finding mafia
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