OU Gliscor

[GMars]

QC: Subject 18, Gary, Colonel M
GP: P Squared, The Dutch Plumberjack​

[OVERVIEW]

Gliscor's ability Poison Heal allows it to recover an eighth of its health per turn if it is poisoned, making it a difficult Pokemon to wear down. Because of its typing and physical bulk, Gliscor is able to check certain physically offensive Pokemon like Garchomp, Zygarde, and Tyranitar, as well as a select few specially offensive threats like Heatran. Since Gliscor recovers off of poison, it is also able to counter passive walls like Chansey that rely on Toxic for damage. However, Gliscor's typing leaves it vulnerable to Ice- and Water-type attacks. Additionally, Gliscor faces heavy competition from Landorus-T for a teamslot, as Landorus-T has greater offensive presence and better bulk thanks to Intimidate.

[SET]
name: SubTect
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Protect
move 4: Earthquake
item: Toxic Orb
ability: Poison Heal
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 56 Atk / 192 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Toxic lets Gliscor badly poison opposing Pokemon, wearing them down. Substitute gives Gliscor a barrier from damage in exchange for a quarter of its health. Gliscor is also able to maintain Substitutes versus defensive Garchomp and Mega Scizor. As Gliscor recovers 1/8 of its health per turn, Protect enables it to recover enough health to continuously create Substitutes. Protect also helps Gliscor safely activate Poison Heal. Earthquake allows Gliscor to hit most Toxic-immune Pokemon for super effective damage and prevents it from being completely susceptible to Taunt. Earthquake also lets Gliscor break opposing Substitutes.

Set Details
========

Toxic Orb is used to activate Gliscor's ability Poison Heal. It causes Gliscor to recover 1/8 of its health when poisoned, making it difficult to wear down. Being inflicted with poison also causes Gliscor to become immune to other status, such as burn and paralysis. 244 HP EVs improve Gliscor's mixed bulk and also allow Gliscor to reach a Poison Heal number, maximizing the amount of HP it recovers each turn. 56 Attack EVs are used to ensure Earthquake is a 2HKO on Volcarona. 16 Speed EVs with a Jolly nature allow Gliscor to outspeed Timid Magearna. The remaining 192 EVs are put into Special Defense to patch up Gliscor's otherwise poor special bulk, allowing it to check Heatran and Nihilego lacking Hidden Power Ice. Alternatively, maximum Speed investment can be run to ease Gliscor's ability to begin cycling between Substitute and Protect.

Usage Tips
========

Leading with Gliscor and using Protect to activate Poison Heal can be a good idea to set up Gliscor for later in the match. Otherwise, bring Gliscor in on the Pokemon is it able to check, like Garchomp and Heatran. Don't switch in on Knock Off or moves that can inflict burn if Toxic Orb has not yet activated, as this will remove Gliscor's passive healing. However, after Toxic Orb triggers, Gliscor can be used to block status. If using Magnezone in conjunction with Gliscor, double switch into it to trap opposing Skarmory, Celesteela, or Scizor that come in to wall Gliscor. Otherwise, use Toxic to poison opposing Pokemon and cycle between Substitute and Protect to wear them down, softening the opposing team for a late-game sweeper.

Team Options
========

Magnezone traps and eliminates Skarmory and Celesteela, which otherwise completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Magnezone is also able to remove other troublesome Steel-types, such as Scizor. Alternatively, a lure to Skarmory or Celesteela, such as Electrium Z Tapu Lele or Electrium Z Gengar, could be used. Since this variant of Gliscor does a great job of wearing down the opposing team, offensive Pokemon that can act as late-game sweepers like Ash-Greninja and Shift Gear Magearna make great partners. Gliscor brings in and wears down Tangrowth and bulky Water-types, allowing Pokemon like Sharpedo, Gyarados, Zygarde, and Choice Scarf Garchomp to clean effectively. Gliscor needs teammates able to switch in on Ice- and Water-type attacks. Bulky Water-types, such as Keldeo, perform this role well. Scizor is able to counter most Ice-types and is also able to Pursuit trap some special wallbreakers like Tapu Lele. Bulky Grass-types like Tangrowth and Ferrothorn can switch into the offensive Water-type Pokemon that threaten Gliscor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Knock Off could be used over Earthquake to provide utility in removing items, primarily Skarmory's Shed Shell. However, this weakens Gliscor versus most other Steel- and Poison-types. Gliscor can also take advantage of Swords Dance boosts and its pseudo-immunity to status itself to stallbreak. However, it is typically outclassed in this role by Landorus-T. Gliscor can also use Taunt to stallbreak, but it generally has a poor matchup versus the commonly used stall teams. Gliscor can also set up Stealth Rock, but it is again usually outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Landorus-T. As Toxic Orb is no longer needed once Gliscor has become poisoned, an offensive set with Fling is an option to poison a foe and enable Gliscor to use Acrobatics.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Defensive Steel-types**: Steel-types immune to Ground, such as Skarmory and Celesteela, completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Other Steel-types with recovery, such as Scizor, also trouble Gliscor.

**Defensive Poison-types**: The relevant defensive Poison-types in OU—Amoonguss and Mega Venusaur—are neutral to Ground and can run Gliscor out of Earthquake PP.

**Magic Guard Users**: Magic Guard users like Reuniclus and Clefable are immune to damage from Toxic and can use Gliscor as setup fodder.

**Water-types**: Fast offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Greninja and Keldeo force Gliscor out with strong STAB attacks. Tapu Fini can provides grounded teammates with an immunity to Toxic. Suicune either can outspeed Gliscor and use Substitute versus it or can use Rest to set up multiple Calm Minds.

**Ice-type Attacks**: Gliscor is 4x weak to Ice, leaving it vulnerable to Ice-type attacks. Ice-type Pokemon like Weavile and Kyurem-B tear through Gliscor with their STAB moves, while Ice-type coverage moves such as Hidden Power Ice, Ice Beam, and Ice Punch allow their users to easily beat Gliscor.

 

[GMars]

This is ready for QC - heads up, the set likely needs work. I stuck with the skeleton set, but bumped up the speed by two points to better check Magearna and threw on Ice Fang as a slash. If QC wants less speed or the set swapped to SubTect or something else, let me know!

 

[Vert]

Hello GMars

Swords Dance can't beat balance because of how the structure of that archetype changed in SM (lack of Latios, Tornadus-T, Hippowdon, Tyranitar, Landorus-T, Clefable cores....) and Landorus-T honestly does the job better. Swords Dance Gliscor is a dead legend-- checks nothing, does nothing, and finds itself being sack fodder.

Gliscor's viability completely rests on this set:

[SET]
name: BitchScor
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Toxic <---- the crux of the set
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Toxic Orb
ability: Poison Heal
nature: Careful
evs: 244 HP / 56 Atk / 104 SpD / 104 Spe

Yes, this is the infamous Gliscor set and also the gayest Pokemon ever invented by man. One of the biggest problems with this set last generation was the prevalence of Clefable and Mega Scizor and how they completely walled this set. With Clefable less common this generation and Mega Scizor bound to lose usage with the result of the recent suspect test, this set has seen more merit and it is def. better in the current metagame. You will have to stress Magnezone support and / or a lure to Scizor and Celesteela such as Foul Play Weavile and Electrium Z Tapu Lele / Gengar, respectively. 56 Attack EVs was me raging after I got 2 low rolls on Volcarona, losing me the game. You can put it in Special Defense, but I am paranoid because Volcarona is broken and it is nice to get the guaranteed 2HKO on it.

Using the set is self-explanatory: come in on something you force out such as Zygarde, Gengar, Heatran, Tyranitar, some Landorus-T, Dugtrio, Magnezone, Tapu Fini (lol you beat this), Marowak, non-Ice Beam Mew, etc., then start passively destroying your opponent's team. Despite the bad rap it gets, there is no reason to use Swords Dance Gliscor. If QC tells me to fuck off, then you might as well reject this Pokemon as a whole since every other Gliscor set is complete dogshit.

For real though. SubToxic is the way to go.

 

[GMars]

Hello GMars

Foul Play Weavile

i agree with SD being completely underwhelming compared to lando even with the improved durability, implementing

 

[GMars]

Updated with SubTect - ready again for QC.

 

[Seth Vilo]

One quick EV note. The current spread is slightly inefficient. It for SpD and Spe, it yields 233 SpD and 252 Spe.

If the spread is changed to 244 HP / 56 Atk / 192 SpD / 16 Spe and Jolly Nature, the SpD and Spe come out to be 234 SpD and 253 Spe. Slightly more SpD and a bonus Speed point. Yay!

 

[Subject 18]

I would mention what pokemon your able to set up Subs on, because that is left out atm. Everything else is good to me, unless I missed something.

Good work QC 1/3

 

[GMars]

Added, ready for QC 2

 

[Wob]

Just a couple of comments.

• Imo Taunt deserves a mention in OO. It's obviously not worthy of its own set or anything, but it's still able to put in a lot of work as a stallbreaker alongside Toxic/Roost/EQ.
• I think you should mention Knock Off as well. It has pretty decent utility, potentially crippling stuff like Chansey and Shed Shell Skarmory (so Mag can come in and trap).
• I'd add bulky Grass-types to C&C. Tangrowth is able to threaten Gliscor with HP Ice pretty well, and Mega Venusaur/Amoonguss are perhaps even more difficult to deal with as they're immune to Toxic.

Looks really solid overall!

 

[GMars]

Just a couple of comments.

• Imo Taunt deserves a mention in OO. It's obviously not worthy of its own set or anything, but it's still able to put in a lot of work as a stallbreaker alongside Toxic/Roost/EQ.
• I think you should mention Knock Off as well. It has pretty decent utility, potentially crippling stuff like Chansey and Shed Shell Skarmory (so Mag can come in and trap).
• I'd add bulky Grass-types to C&C. Tangrowth is able to threaten Gliscor with HP Ice pretty well, and Mega Venusaur/Amoonguss are perhaps even more difficult to deal with as they're immune to Toxic.

Looks really solid overall!

Thank you, I'll explicitly mention Taunt stallbreaker and Knock Off. As far as Tangrowth goes, I don't think it handles Subtect. If it comes in on Toxic, it gets caught in a sub-tect cycle and loses. If it comes in at the same time as Gliscor, HP ice only does 55-65 to Gliscor as it toxics, leaving gliscor enough health to cycle subtect.

Mega Venusaur and Amoonguss are counters, I'll add that in. Thanks!

Edit: implemented

 

[Gary]

You mention Defensive Zygarde as something that Gliscor can set up a Sub vs, but if you're referring to the Sub Tect set, it's not commonly used enough to warrant a mention IMO. Sub Coil just uses Gliscor as set up fodder, which is the only other defensive spread I can think of. I'd mention something else.

In the C&C section add a Magic Guard section and mention Reuniclus and Clefable, as they are both immune to Toxic, can easily tank EQ, and use it as set up fodder if both are Calm Mind. Add Fini to the Water-type section because of its ability to block status which can be especially troublesome when paired with a teammate that can take advantage of it. Most Suicune variants also give it a lot of trouble; VinCune outspeeds Gliscor and can Sub up vs it, while bulky CM variants can Rest off the Toxic and use it as set up fodder, so make sure to add that too.

QC 2/3

 

[GMars]

You mention Defensive Zygarde as something that Gliscor can set up a Sub vs, but if you're referring to the Sub Tect set, it's not commonly used enough to warrant a mention IMO. Sub Coil just uses Gliscor as set up fodder, which is the only other defensive spread I can think of. I'd mention something else.

In the C&C section add a Magic Guard section and mention Reuniclus and Clefable, as they are both immune to Toxic, can easily tank EQ, and use it as set up fodder if both are Calm Mind. Add Fini to the Water-type section because of its ability to block status which can be especially troublesome when paired with a teammate that can take advantage of it. Most Suicune variants also give it a lot of trouble; VinCune outspeeds Gliscor and can Sub up vs it, while bulky CM variants can Rest off the Toxic and use it as set up fodder, so make sure to add that too.

QC 2/3

Thank you! Implemented, written, and ready for QC 3.

 

[Colonel M]

Everything here looks like a solid 5/7 tbh.

3/3

 

[GMars]

Everything here looks like a solid 5/7 tbh.

3/3

nice and perfect score
gp ready!

 

[P Squared]

good writing, thx
GP 1/2

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[OVERVIEW]

Gliscor's ability Poison Heal allows it to recover an eighth of its health per turn if it is poisoned, making it a difficult Pokemon to wear down. Because of its typing and physical bulk, Gliscor is able to check certain physically offensive Pokemon like Garchomp, Zygarde, and Tyranitar, as well as a select few specially offensive threats like Heatran. Since Gliscor recovers off of poison, it is also able to counter passive walls like Chansey that rely on Toxic for damage. However, Gliscor's typing leaves it vulnerable to Ice- and Water-type attacks. Additionally, Gliscor faces heavy competition from Landorus-T for a teamslot, as Landorus-T has greater offensive presence and better bulk thanks to Intimidate.

[SET]
name: Subtect
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Protect
move 4: Earthquake
item: Toxic Orb
ability: Poison Heal
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 56 Atk / 192 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Toxic lets Gliscor badly poison opposing Pokemon, wearing them down. Substitute gives Gliscor a barrier from damage in exchange for a quarter of its health. Gliscor is also able to stick (what does stick mean here?) Substitutes versus defensive Garchomp and Mega Scizor. As Gliscor recovers 1/8 of its health per turn, Protect enables it Gliscor to recover enough health to continuously create Substitutes. Protect also helps allows Gliscor to safely activate Poison Heal. Earthquake allows Gliscor to hit most Toxic-immune Pokemon for super effective damage and prevents it from being completely susceptible to Taunt. Earthquake also lets allows Gliscor to break opposing Substitutes. (just removing some repetition, otherwise it was fine)

Set Details
========

Toxic Orb is used to activate Gliscor's ability Poison Heal. It causes Gliscor to recover 1/8 of its health when poisoned, making it difficult to wear down. Being inflicted with poison also causes Gliscor to become immune to other status, such as burn and paralysis. 244 HP EVs improve Gliscor's mixed bulk. It and also allows Gliscor to reach a Poison Heal number, maximizing the amount of HP it recovers each turn. 56 Attack EVs are used to ensure Earthquake is a 2HKO on Volcarona. 16 Speed EVs with a Jolly nature allow Gliscor to outspeed Timid Magearna. The remaining 192 EVs are put into Special Defense. These EVs to patch up Gliscor's otherwise poor special bulk, allowing it to check Heatran and Nihilego lacking Hidden Power Ice. Alternatively, maximum Speed investment can be run to ease Gliscor's ability to begin cycling between Substitute and Protect.

Usage Tips
========

Leading with Gliscor and using Protect to activate Poison Heal can be a good idea to set up Gliscor for later in the match. Otherwise, bring Gliscor in on the Pokemon is it able to check, like Garchomp and Heatran. Don't switch in on Knock Off or burn if Toxic Orb has not yet activated, as this will remove Gliscor's passive healing. However, after Toxic Orb triggers, Gliscor can be used to block status. If using Magnezone in conjunction with Gliscor, double switch into it to trap opposing Skarmory, Celesteela, or Scizor that which come in to wall Gliscor. Otherwise, use Toxic to poison opposing Pokemon and cycle between Substitute and Protect to wear them down, softening the opposing team for a late-game sweeper.

Team Options
========

Magnezone traps and eliminates Skarmory and Celesteela, which otherwise completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Magnezone is also able to remove other troublesome Steel-types, such as Scizor. Alternatively, a lure to Skarmory or Celesteela, such as Electrium Z Tapu Lele or Electrium Z Gengar, (add comma) could be used. Since this variant of Gliscor does a great job of wearing down the opposing team, offensive Pokemon that which can act as late-game sweepers like Ash-Greninja or and Shift Gear Magearna make great partners. Gliscor brings in and wears down Tangrowth and bulky Water-types, allowing Pokemon like Sharpedo, Gyarados, Zygarde, and Choice Scarf Garchomp to clean effectively. Gliscor needs teammates able to switch in on Ice- and Water-type attacks. Bulky Water-types, such as Keldeo, perform this role well. Scizor is able to counter most Ice-types and is also able to Pursuit trap some special wallbreakers like Tapu Lele. Bulky Grass-types like Tangrowth and Ferrothorn can switch into the offensive Water-type Pokemon that threaten Gliscor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Knock Off could be used over Earthquake to provide utility in removing items, primarily Skarmory's Shed Shell. However, this weakens Gliscor versus most other Steel- and Poison-types. Gliscor could use Baton Pass to pass Swords Dance boosts to teammates such as Sharpedo. Gliscor can use Swords Dance and its pseudo-immunity to status to stallbreak. However, it is typically outclassed in this role by Landorus-T. Gliscor can also use Taunt to stallbreak, but it generally has a poor matchup versus the commonly used stall teams. Gliscor can also set up Stealth Rock, but it is again usually outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Landorus-T. As Toxic Orb is no longer needed once Gliscor has become poisoned, an offensive set with Fling is an option to poison a foe an opponent and enable Gliscor to use Acrobatics.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Defensive Steel-types**: Steel-types immune to Ground, such as Skarmory and Celesteela, completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Other Steel-types with recovery, such as Scizor, also trouble Gliscor.

**Defensive Poison-types**: The relevant defensive Poison-types in OU&mdash;Amoonguss and Mega Venusaur&mdash;are neutral to Ground and can run Gliscor out of Earthquake PP.

**Magic Guard Users**: Magic Guard users like Reuniclus and Clefable are immune to damage from Toxic and can use Gliscor as setup fodder.

**Water-types**: Fast offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Greninja and Keldeo force Gliscor out with strong STAB attacks. Tapu Fini can provides grounded teammates with an immunity to Toxic. Suicune can either can outspeed Gliscor and use Substitute versus it or can use Rest to set up multiple Calm Minds.

**Ice-types Attacks**: Gliscor is 4x weak to Ice, leaving it vulnerable to Ice-type attacks. Ice-type Pokemon like Weavile and Kyurem-B tear through Gliscor with their STAB moves, while Ice-type coverage moves such as Hidden Power Ice, Ice Beam, and Ice Punch allow their users to easily beat Gliscor.

 

[GMars]

good writing, thx
GP 1/2

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[OVERVIEW]

Gliscor's ability Poison Heal allows it to recover an eighth of its health per turn if it is poisoned, making it a difficult Pokemon to wear down. Because of its typing and physical bulk, Gliscor is able to check certain physically offensive Pokemon like Garchomp, Zygarde, and Tyranitar, as well as a select few specially offensive threats like Heatran. Since Gliscor recovers off of poison, it is also able to counter passive walls like Chansey that rely on Toxic for damage. However, Gliscor's typing leaves it vulnerable to Ice- and Water-type attacks. Additionally, Gliscor faces heavy competition from Landorus-T for a teamslot, as Landorus-T has greater offensive presence and better bulk thanks to Intimidate.

[SET]
name: Subtect
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Protect
move 4: Earthquake
item: Toxic Orb
ability: Poison Heal
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 56 Atk / 192 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Toxic lets Gliscor badly poison opposing Pokemon, wearing them down. Substitute gives Gliscor a barrier from damage in exchange for a quarter of its health. Gliscor is also able to stick (what does stick mean here?) Substitutes versus defensive Garchomp and Mega Scizor. As Gliscor recovers 1/8 of its health per turn, Protect enables it Gliscor to recover enough health to continuously create Substitutes. Protect also helps allows Gliscor to safely activate Poison Heal. Earthquake allows Gliscor to hit most Toxic-immune Pokemon for super effective damage and prevents it from being completely susceptible to Taunt. Earthquake also lets allows Gliscor to break opposing Substitutes. (just removing some repetition, otherwise it was fine)

Set Details
========

Toxic Orb is used to activate Gliscor's ability Poison Heal. It causes Gliscor to recover 1/8 of its health when poisoned, making it difficult to wear down. Being inflicted with poison also causes Gliscor to become immune to other status, such as burn and paralysis. 244 HP EVs improve Gliscor's mixed bulk. It and also allows Gliscor to reach a Poison Heal number, maximizing the amount of HP it recovers each turn. 56 Attack EVs are used to ensure Earthquake is a 2HKO on Volcarona. 16 Speed EVs with a Jolly nature allow Gliscor to outspeed Timid Magearna. The remaining 192 EVs are put into Special Defense. These EVs to patch up Gliscor's otherwise poor special bulk, allowing it to check Heatran and Nihilego lacking Hidden Power Ice. Alternatively, maximum Speed investment can be run to ease Gliscor's ability to begin cycling between Substitute and Protect.

Usage Tips
========

Leading with Gliscor and using Protect to activate Poison Heal can be a good idea to set up Gliscor for later in the match. Otherwise, bring Gliscor in on the Pokemon is it able to check, like Garchomp and Heatran. Don't switch in on Knock Off or burn if Toxic Orb has not yet activated, as this will remove Gliscor's passive healing. However, after Toxic Orb triggers, Gliscor can be used to block status. If using Magnezone in conjunction with Gliscor, double switch into it to trap opposing Skarmory, Celesteela, or Scizor that which come in to wall Gliscor. Otherwise, use Toxic to poison opposing Pokemon and cycle between Substitute and Protect to wear them down, softening the opposing team for a late-game sweeper.

Team Options
========

Magnezone traps and eliminates Skarmory and Celesteela, which otherwise completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Magnezone is also able to remove other troublesome Steel-types, such as Scizor. Alternatively, a lure to Skarmory or Celesteela, such as Electrium Z Tapu Lele or Electrium Z Gengar, (add comma) could be used. Since this variant of Gliscor does a great job of wearing down the opposing team, offensive Pokemon that which can act as late-game sweepers like Ash-Greninja or and Shift Gear Magearna make great partners. Gliscor brings in and wears down Tangrowth and bulky Water-types, allowing Pokemon like Sharpedo, Gyarados, Zygarde, and Choice Scarf Garchomp to clean effectively. Gliscor needs teammates able to switch in on Ice- and Water-type attacks. Bulky Water-types, such as Keldeo, perform this role well. Scizor is able to counter most Ice-types and is also able to Pursuit trap some special wallbreakers like Tapu Lele. Bulky Grass-types like Tangrowth and Ferrothorn can switch into the offensive Water-type Pokemon that threaten Gliscor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Knock Off could be used over Earthquake to provide utility in removing items, primarily Skarmory's Shed Shell. However, this weakens Gliscor versus most other Steel- and Poison-types. Gliscor could use Baton Pass to pass Swords Dance boosts to teammates such as Sharpedo. Gliscor can use Swords Dance and its pseudo-immunity to status to stallbreak. However, it is typically outclassed in this role by Landorus-T. Gliscor can also use Taunt to stallbreak, but it generally has a poor matchup versus the commonly used stall teams. Gliscor can also set up Stealth Rock, but it is again usually outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Landorus-T. As Toxic Orb is no longer needed once Gliscor has become poisoned, an offensive set with Fling is an option to poison a foe an opponent and enable Gliscor to use Acrobatics.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Defensive Steel-types**: Steel-types immune to Ground, such as Skarmory and Celesteela, completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Other Steel-types with recovery, such as Scizor, also trouble Gliscor.

**Defensive Poison-types**: The relevant defensive Poison-types in OU&mdash;Amoonguss and Mega Venusaur&mdash;are neutral to Ground and can run Gliscor out of Earthquake PP.

**Magic Guard Users**: Magic Guard users like Reuniclus and Clefable are immune to damage from Toxic and can use Gliscor as setup fodder.

**Water-types**: Fast offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Greninja and Keldeo force Gliscor out with strong STAB attacks. Tapu Fini can provides grounded teammates with an immunity to Toxic. Suicune can either can outspeed Gliscor and use Substitute versus it or can use Rest to set up multiple Calm Minds.

**Ice-types Attacks**: Gliscor is 4x weak to Ice, leaving it vulnerable to Ice-type attacks. Ice-type Pokemon like Weavile and Kyurem-B tear through Gliscor with their STAB moves, while Ice-type coverage moves such as Hidden Power Ice, Ice Beam, and Ice Punch allow their users to easily beat Gliscor.

Thanks for the check - in regards to what stick means, I've changed the verb to "maintain" - generally, gliscor will lose a substitute the turn it sets one up, but it has enough bulk to keep substitutes against defensive chomp and scizor. Is that phrasing alright?

Otherwise, ready for GP 2!

 

[Lumari]

GP 2/2

gliscor

[OVERVIEW]

Gliscor's ability Poison Heal allows it to recover an eighth of its health per turn if it is poisoned, making it a difficult Pokemon to wear down. Because of its typing and physical bulk, Gliscor is able to check certain physically offensive Pokemon like Garchomp, Zygarde, and Tyranitar, as well as a select few specially offensive threats like Heatran. Since Gliscor recovers off of poison, it is also able to counter passive walls like Chansey that rely on Toxic for damage. However, Gliscor's typing leaves it vulnerable to Ice- and Water-type attacks. Additionally, Gliscor faces heavy competition from Landorus-T for a teamslot, as Landorus-T has greater offensive presence and better bulk thanks to Intimidate.

[SET]
name: SubTect (also why not just SubToxic?)
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Protect
move 4: Earthquake
item: Toxic Orb
ability: Poison Heal
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 56 Atk / 192 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Toxic lets Gliscor badly poison opposing Pokemon, wearing them down. Substitute gives Gliscor a barrier from damage in exchange for a quarter of its health. Gliscor is also able to maintain Substitutes versus defensive Garchomp and Mega Scizor. As Gliscor recovers 1/8 of its health per turn, Protect enables it to recover enough health to continuously create Substitutes. Protect also helps Gliscor safely activate Poison Heal. Earthquake allows Gliscor to hit most Toxic-immune Pokemon for super effective damage and prevents it from being completely susceptible to Taunt. Earthquake also lets Gliscor break opposing Substitutes.

Set Details
========

Toxic Orb is used to activate Gliscor's ability Poison Heal. It causes Gliscor to recover 1/8 of its health when poisoned, making it difficult to wear down. Being inflicted with poison also causes Gliscor to become immune to other status, such as burn and paralysis. 244 HP EVs improve Gliscor's mixed bulk and also allow Gliscor to reach a Poison Heal number, maximizing the amount of HP it recovers each turn. (max HP makes for the exact same recovery and exact same Sub HP, so this is not a good reason to drop HP EVs) 56 Attack EVs are used to ensure Earthquake is a 2HKO on Volcarona. 16 Speed EVs with a Jolly nature allow Gliscor to outspeed Timid Magearna. The remaining 192 EVs are put into Special Defense to patch up Gliscor's otherwise poor special bulk, allowing it to check Heatran and Nihilego lacking Hidden Power Ice. Alternatively, maximum Speed investment can be run to ease Gliscor's ability to begin cycling between Substitute and Protect.

Usage Tips
========

Leading with Gliscor and using Protect to activate Poison Heal can be a good idea to set up Gliscor for later in the match. Otherwise, bring Gliscor in on the Pokemon is it able to check, like Garchomp and Heatran. Don't switch in on Knock Off or burn (needs to be a move name for wording consistency, Will-O-Wisp? Fire-type moves? moves that can inflict burn?) if Toxic Orb has not yet activated, as this will remove Gliscor's passive healing. However, after Toxic Orb triggers, Gliscor can be used to block status. If using Magnezone in conjunction with Gliscor, double switch into it to trap opposing Skarmory, Celesteela, or Scizor that come in to wall Gliscor. Otherwise, use Toxic to poison opposing Pokemon and cycle between Substitute and Protect to wear them down, softening the opposing team for a late-game sweeper.

Team Options
========

Magnezone traps and eliminates Skarmory and Celesteela, which otherwise completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Magnezone is also able to remove other troublesome Steel-types, such as Scizor. Alternatively, a lure to Skarmory or Celesteela, such as Electrium Z Tapu Lele or Electrium Z Gengar, could be used. Since this variant of Gliscor does a great job of wearing down the opposing team, offensive Pokemon that can act as late-game sweepers like Ash-Greninja and Shift Gear Magearna make great partners. Gliscor brings in and wears down Tangrowth and bulky Water-types, allowing Pokemon like Sharpedo, Gyarados, Zygarde, and Choice Scarf Garchomp to clean effectively. Gliscor needs teammates able to switch in on Ice- and Water-type attacks. Bulky Water-types, such as Keldeo, perform this role well. Scizor is able to counter most Ice-types and is also able to Pursuit trap some special wallbreakers like Tapu Lele. Bulky Grass-types like Tangrowth and Ferrothorn can switch into the offensive Water-type Pokemon that threaten Gliscor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Knock Off could be used over Earthquake to provide utility in removing items, primarily Skarmory's Shed Shell. However, this weakens Gliscor versus most other Steel- and Poison-types. Gliscor could use Baton Pass to pass Swords Dance boosts to teammates such as Sharpedo. Gliscor can use also take advantage of Swords Dance boosts and its pseudo-immunity to status itself to stallbreak. However, it is typically outclassed in this role by Landorus-T. Gliscor can also use Taunt to stallbreak, but it generally has a poor matchup versus the commonly used stall teams. Gliscor can also set up Stealth Rock, but it is again usually outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Landorus-T. As Toxic Orb is no longer needed once Gliscor has become poisoned, an offensive set with Fling is an option to poison a foe and enable Gliscor to use Acrobatics.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Defensive Steel-types**: Steel-types immune to Ground, such as Skarmory and Celesteela, completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Other Steel-types with recovery, such as Scizor, also trouble Gliscor.

**Defensive Poison-types**: The relevant defensive Poison-types in OU&mdash;Amoonguss and Mega Venusaur&mdash;are neutral to Ground and can run Gliscor out of Earthquake PP.

**Magic Guard Users**: Magic Guard users like Reuniclus and Clefable are immune to damage from Toxic and can use Gliscor as setup fodder.

**Water-types**: Fast offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Greninja and Keldeo force Gliscor out with strong STAB attacks. Tapu Fini can provides grounded teammates with an immunity to Toxic. Suicune either can outspeed Gliscor and use Substitute versus it or can use Rest to set up multiple Calm Minds.

**Ice-type Attacks**: Gliscor is 4x weak to Ice, leaving it vulnerable to Ice-type attacks. Ice-type Pokemon like Weavile and Kyurem-B tear through Gliscor with their STAB moves, while Ice-type coverage moves such as Hidden Power Ice, Ice Beam, and Ice Punch allow their users to easily beat Gliscor.

 

[GMars]

GP 2/2

gliscor

[OVERVIEW]

Gliscor's ability Poison Heal allows it to recover an eighth of its health per turn if it is poisoned, making it a difficult Pokemon to wear down. Because of its typing and physical bulk, Gliscor is able to check certain physically offensive Pokemon like Garchomp, Zygarde, and Tyranitar, as well as a select few specially offensive threats like Heatran. Since Gliscor recovers off of poison, it is also able to counter passive walls like Chansey that rely on Toxic for damage. However, Gliscor's typing leaves it vulnerable to Ice- and Water-type attacks. Additionally, Gliscor faces heavy competition from Landorus-T for a teamslot, as Landorus-T has greater offensive presence and better bulk thanks to Intimidate.

[SET]
name: SubTect (also why not just SubToxic?)
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Protect
move 4: Earthquake
item: Toxic Orb
ability: Poison Heal
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 56 Atk / 192 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Toxic lets Gliscor badly poison opposing Pokemon, wearing them down. Substitute gives Gliscor a barrier from damage in exchange for a quarter of its health. Gliscor is also able to maintain Substitutes versus defensive Garchomp and Mega Scizor. As Gliscor recovers 1/8 of its health per turn, Protect enables it to recover enough health to continuously create Substitutes. Protect also helps Gliscor safely activate Poison Heal. Earthquake allows Gliscor to hit most Toxic-immune Pokemon for super effective damage and prevents it from being completely susceptible to Taunt. Earthquake also lets Gliscor break opposing Substitutes.

Set Details
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Toxic Orb is used to activate Gliscor's ability Poison Heal. It causes Gliscor to recover 1/8 of its health when poisoned, making it difficult to wear down. Being inflicted with poison also causes Gliscor to become immune to other status, such as burn and paralysis. 244 HP EVs improve Gliscor's mixed bulk and also allow Gliscor to reach a Poison Heal number, maximizing the amount of HP it recovers each turn. (max HP makes for the exact same recovery and exact same Sub HP, so this is not a good reason to drop HP EVs) 56 Attack EVs are used to ensure Earthquake is a 2HKO on Volcarona. 16 Speed EVs with a Jolly nature allow Gliscor to outspeed Timid Magearna. The remaining 192 EVs are put into Special Defense to patch up Gliscor's otherwise poor special bulk, allowing it to check Heatran and Nihilego lacking Hidden Power Ice. Alternatively, maximum Speed investment can be run to ease Gliscor's ability to begin cycling between Substitute and Protect.

Usage Tips
========

Leading with Gliscor and using Protect to activate Poison Heal can be a good idea to set up Gliscor for later in the match. Otherwise, bring Gliscor in on the Pokemon is it able to check, like Garchomp and Heatran. Don't switch in on Knock Off or burn (needs to be a move name for wording consistency, Will-O-Wisp? Fire-type moves? moves that can inflict burn?) if Toxic Orb has not yet activated, as this will remove Gliscor's passive healing. However, after Toxic Orb triggers, Gliscor can be used to block status. If using Magnezone in conjunction with Gliscor, double switch into it to trap opposing Skarmory, Celesteela, or Scizor that come in to wall Gliscor. Otherwise, use Toxic to poison opposing Pokemon and cycle between Substitute and Protect to wear them down, softening the opposing team for a late-game sweeper.

Team Options
========

Magnezone traps and eliminates Skarmory and Celesteela, which otherwise completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Magnezone is also able to remove other troublesome Steel-types, such as Scizor. Alternatively, a lure to Skarmory or Celesteela, such as Electrium Z Tapu Lele or Electrium Z Gengar, could be used. Since this variant of Gliscor does a great job of wearing down the opposing team, offensive Pokemon that can act as late-game sweepers like Ash-Greninja and Shift Gear Magearna make great partners. Gliscor brings in and wears down Tangrowth and bulky Water-types, allowing Pokemon like Sharpedo, Gyarados, Zygarde, and Choice Scarf Garchomp to clean effectively. Gliscor needs teammates able to switch in on Ice- and Water-type attacks. Bulky Water-types, such as Keldeo, perform this role well. Scizor is able to counter most Ice-types and is also able to Pursuit trap some special wallbreakers like Tapu Lele. Bulky Grass-types like Tangrowth and Ferrothorn can switch into the offensive Water-type Pokemon that threaten Gliscor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Knock Off could be used over Earthquake to provide utility in removing items, primarily Skarmory's Shed Shell. However, this weakens Gliscor versus most other Steel- and Poison-types. Gliscor could use Baton Pass to pass Swords Dance boosts to teammates such as Sharpedo. Gliscor can use also take advantage of Swords Dance boosts and its pseudo-immunity to status itself to stallbreak. However, it is typically outclassed in this role by Landorus-T. Gliscor can also use Taunt to stallbreak, but it generally has a poor matchup versus the commonly used stall teams. Gliscor can also set up Stealth Rock, but it is again usually outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Landorus-T. As Toxic Orb is no longer needed once Gliscor has become poisoned, an offensive set with Fling is an option to poison a foe and enable Gliscor to use Acrobatics.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Defensive Steel-types**: Steel-types immune to Ground, such as Skarmory and Celesteela, completely wall this variant of Gliscor. Other Steel-types with recovery, such as Scizor, also trouble Gliscor.

**Defensive Poison-types**: The relevant defensive Poison-types in OU&mdash;Amoonguss and Mega Venusaur&mdash;are neutral to Ground and can run Gliscor out of Earthquake PP.

**Magic Guard Users**: Magic Guard users like Reuniclus and Clefable are immune to damage from Toxic and can use Gliscor as setup fodder.

**Water-types**: Fast offensive Water-type Pokemon such as Greninja and Keldeo force Gliscor out with strong STAB attacks. Tapu Fini can provides grounded teammates with an immunity to Toxic. Suicune either can outspeed Gliscor and use Substitute versus it or can use Rest to set up multiple Calm Minds.

**Ice-type Attacks**: Gliscor is 4x weak to Ice, leaving it vulnerable to Ice-type attacks. Ice-type Pokemon like Weavile and Kyurem-B tear through Gliscor with their STAB moves, while Ice-type coverage moves such as Hidden Power Ice, Ice Beam, and Ice Punch allow their users to easily beat Gliscor.

Thank you!

For the comments:
-I named the set SubTect over SubToxic because Gliscor's ability to cycle between Substitute and Protect without losing HP in the process is the defining characteristic of the set.
-Max HP gives the same recovery and the same substitute health, but each point of HP then holds less defensive weight. Using a Poison Heal number causes the most 'bulk' in a sense to be recovered and allows the most EVs to be invested in the defenses of Gliscor's substitutes.

Implemented the remainder of the check. Thank you very much - Gliscor should now be done!

 

[Colonel M]