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Gallade (QC 3/3)
Gallade http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/475.png http://veekun.com/dex/media/chrome/types/psychic.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/chrome/types/fighting.png Will write up soon. QC Checks: 1/3 Chou Toshio, 2/3 Oglemi, 3/3 PKGaming • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • [Overview]<p>Gallade is truly an awesome looking Pokemon. The blades it possesses on its arms look incredibly strong, and of course, Gallade itself is tremendously powerful. Possessing Fighting-type STAB attacks in Close Combat and Drain Punch allows Gallade to effectively annihilate a huge number of Pokemon, as the coverage granted by those moves is excellent—almost as much so as Gallade's sleek looks. Gallade can utterly destroy Chansey, which is a much-needed trait in today's metagame, as the specially defensive behemoth is seen everywhere. Gallade can also boast a movepool that stretches over a huge expanse; it includes moves such as Swords Dance and Bulk Up for setup, and also coverage moves such as Ice Punch, Shadow Sneak, Night Slash, and Stone Edge. To top it off, though, Gallade gets Justified from Dream World. When switching into a Dark-type attack, Gallade can grab an Attack boost, which means after setting up, Gallade's Attack reaches levels that are just ridiculously high.</p> <p>However, although Gallade is ridiculously strong after setting-up, its defenses, like its body, are paper-thin. Unfortunately, this means that like most sweepers it can be easily revenge killed, especially after a defense drop from Close Combat. Gallade is also relatively slow; it spends so much time showing off its sleek looking blades that it is easily outsped by Pokemon such as Flygon, Crobat, and Rotom-A, which can easily revenge kill it. Gallade's sleek looks and excellent style means its a Pokemon to look out for both aesthetically and competitively.</p> [SET] name: Swords Dance move 1: Swords Dance move 2: Close Combat move 3: Ice Punch / Stone Edge move 4: Shadow Sneak / Night Slash item: Life Orb ability: Justified nature: Adamant evs: 68 HP / 252 Atk / 188 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p>Gallade's huge attacking power after a Swords Dance allows it to wreak havoc upon the UU tier. Its extremely powerful STAB move in Close Combat allows Gallade to tear apart a huge number of Pokemon — even standard Donphan is KOed 100% of the time, and defensive variants have a chance to fall to the same fate after Stealth Rock damage. Gallade's 766 Attack after a Swords Dance is truly monstrous, and it allows Gallade to smash Flying-types into the ground with Ice Punch, while fast, frail Pokemon such as Azelf and Mismagius are taken care of by Shadow Sneak.</p> <p>Each of the moves listed in the set are equally useful: Stone Edge can be used over Ice Punch for a better hit on Moltres, while it also hits Arcanine super effectively; however, Ice Punch is a more reliable move on the whole, and it is able to OHKO Flygon before a Swords Dance, meaning Gallade can easily eliminate it, before switching in later and setting back up. Night Slash can be used over Shadow Sneak to deal out damage to bulky Psychic-types like Slowbro and Deoxys-D, which otherwise completely wall Gallade.</p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs listed are optimal, although they can be changed to meet your needs. The only reason to run max Speed is to tie with Adamant Heracross (basically Choice Band variants), but most tend to use a Choice Scarf. You may, though, choose to do so, as the added bulk from the few HP EVs is really very little. Maximizing Speed and giving Gallade a Jolly nature also comes with the benefit of tying with max Speed Mamoswine, as well as Altaria, although it isn't really as important. Gallade's other ability: Steadfast, can be used to help out against Pokemon that use flinching moves, like Durant. This is really very gimmicky though, as the few times Gallade may get flinched would be from a Togekiss Air Slash, which Gallade isn't surviving anyway. Finally, Gallade can choose to run Leftovers over Life Orb for the added recovery, although Gallade loses a lot of power; it's the same argument for virtually every single other offensive Pokemon.</p> <p>Physical walls are the bane of this set, and almost every other Gallade set, too. Donphan and Milotic, especially after the latter is statused, are almost complete hard stops to Gallade. Their attacking moves hit Gallade hard through its paper-thin defenses, and Gallade can't do much in return, even after a boost to its offenses from Swords Dance.</p> [SET] name: Choice move 1: Close Combat move 2: Ice Punch / Stone Edge move 3: Zen Headbutt / Night Slash move 4: Trick item: Choice Scarf / Choice Band ability: Justified nature: Jolly / Adamant evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe [SET COMMENTS]
name: Bulk Up move 1: Bulk Up move 2: Drain Punch move 3: Ice Punch / Stone Edge move 4: Night Slash / X-Scissor item: Leftovers ability: Steadfast nature: Adamant evs: 252 HP / 68 Atk / 188 Spe [SET COMMENTS]
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Ooh Ooh Bulk Up Bulk Up with Drain Punch, Psycho Cut and Shadow Sneak :)
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Definately a Scarf set. Maybe with Trick. It stops Chansey.
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Swords Dance can also be used :)
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Ummmm isn't Gallade already being worked on by Berserker Lord?
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3449062 |
He gave it up.
I took it. |
I'd suggest copying over the sets that Berserker Lord made for now since they got full QC approval.
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Would a Subsitute+Bulk Up set work, you think? With Ice Punch as the move second to Drain Punch? Ice+Fighting does have good coverage, iirc.
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Hi elDino, just for future reference we're trying to avoid these placeholder threads; next time please put up at least a partial skeleton with the initial post-- thanks ;)
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Ok, sorry Chou. I would get up a skeleton now, but I'm on holiday for another few days, and I only have access to my phone right now.
I'll get a skeleton up asap :) |
Excuse my double post, but this is now ready for QC baby :D.
I do want to raise the following issue to the QCers: Ice Punch or Stone Edge? I was kinda reluctant to write this skeleton up now, Chou, since I'm still on holiday, but since you're cool, I did it. I'm still not going to be active in C&C for another 4ish days. |
I would personally leave the slashes, but make Stone Edge the first option. It is more powerful, and Gligar isn't really all that common (and its easy to take care of with other teammates).
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I don't see any problems
QC APPROVED (1/3) |
I don't know how common Weezing is, but IIRC back in 4th gen UU, having STAB Zen Headbutt on the SD set to kill the purple gasbag was a huge reason why it was kicked upstairs. Even if Weezing isn't common, Zen Headbutt still does a truck-load to Nidoqueen, so maybe mention this on the SD set.
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Why no use of Psycho Cut?
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Ice Punch > Stone Edge. Make it the primary option on all sets.
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I saw this thread is about Gallade, so i thought to post it here. Justified is finally released!
Just to say it, jsut to make sure the society doesn't ignore this fact! The official analyses even points out it could be fairly effective once released, so yeah. My set: Um... well, i'd say any set above or any set thought of EVER for Gallade, as from now on, in any situation, Justified just seems much more viable than... Steadfast, was it? Well, alrighty... just to say, Gallade... Justified... Alakazam MAGIC GUARD! k sorry. |
Ok, with agreement from Chou, Justified is now the first option on all sets.
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Since Drain Punch is a Gen 4 move, wouldn't it be illegal with Justified, like on the Bulk Up set?
Or am I missing something? |
From my mind i don't know if it's a gen 4 tutor move. If so, yes, drain punch + justified is obviously illegal, like any other gen 4 move with justified.
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It's a Gen 4 TM move, which means yes, it's illegal with Justified.
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The onsite analysis needs to be changed to reflect it. It has Drain Punch + Justified as its forst set.
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I'd love to use Justified Gallade, but his move options are severely limited by the Dream World. For example, Ice Punch is incompatible with Justified as of now. Why does Game Freak skip having Move Tutors in the first games of a generation when they've been around since Fire Red / Leaf Green?
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although this is a necrobump:
Ice Punch and Zen Headbutt are both illegal with Justified. However, Psycho Cut is not. at this point, I'm not really too sure gallade deserves an analysis. the tier does not look particularly favorable for it and its usage statistics reflect that. |
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