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PungentFruit Aug 23rd, 2011 11:04:12 AM

Latios
 
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HP: 80
Atk: 90
Def: 80
SAtk: 130
SDef: 110
Spe: 110

Abilities:
Levitate: Damage dealing Ground-type moves have no effect on this Pokémon. Cannot be trapped by Arena Trap ability. Takes no damage from Spikes.
Moves

GBU Singles Sets

Special Sweeper

Latios @ Life Orb / Expert Belt
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Ground] / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Psyshock / Psychic
- Grass Knot / Thunderbolt / Recover / Substitute

  • With Latios' array of possible moves, it has a lot of sweeping opportunities.
  • Life Orb or Expert Belt are great items with Latios to make it even more powerful.


GBU Doubles Sets

Choice

Latios @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) / Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Shadow Ball / Trick
- Hidden Power [Ground] / Ice Beam

  • Latios serves as a tremendous sweeper with it's very high special attack and speed.
  • Latios has an array of moves and STAB choices to be the ultimate special sweeper.
  • With a Choice Scarf, it reaches a very high speed of 243 with a Modest Nature at Level 50 which makes a Choice Scarf a very viable option.
  • With Choice Specs, Latios becomes an outstanding Special Sweeper that can deal loads of damage. At Level 50, its speed reaches 178 and Special Attack, 273 with a Timid Nature at Level 50.
  • With its huge specially-based moveset options, Latios can have a ton of great niches in this metagame.

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Special Sweeper

Latios @ Life Orb / Dragon Gem
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Shadow Ball / Hidden Power [Ground]
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Protect

  • A Life Orb Latios is perfect for a late game or early game sweeper.
  • With its very large movepool, there are numerous options to utilize its huge special attack and very good speed.
  • The Life Orb makes up for that lost power when given a Timid Nature and unlike the Specs or Scarf set, Latios can continue attacking with different moves to adjust to the situation at hand.

Solace Aug 23rd, 2011 12:15:34 PM

edited some formatting

also i think you should slash surf somewhere in there, as latios uses it greatly and can help it out in doubles vs the common users who get STAB off of heat wave, rock slide, and earthquake.

soul_survivor Aug 23rd, 2011 12:33:28 PM

I've seen many people use hidden power fire, because latios is walled by mons like excadrill, and ferrathorn. Basically most steel pokemon.

Jibaku Aug 23rd, 2011 12:48:47 PM

I use two Latios sets in singles

Latios @ Choice Specs
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Dragon Pulse / Thunderbolt
- Trick

Latios @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
- Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Grass Knot
- Psychic / Psyshock / Recover / Substitute

Latios enjoys the lack of Jirachi in this metagame, although it has to deal with Metagross being more common. The first set performs better against gimmicky teams, because a few can withstand Specs Draco Meteors or Dragon Pulses, while Trick messes up any random Sucker Punches (hi there, Mawile -__-). I prefer Dragon Pulse to Thunderbolt because of its reliability (and since locking into Thunderbolt where Ground sweepers are very common can easily spell your doom). The second set works best if you want to take out Latios' usual counters such as Scizor, Ferrothorn, Metagross and Tyranitar, but may have issues murdering things with Draco Meteor (i.e Zapdos, Rotom) if you go with EBelt, and loses out on the base 110 speedtie . I prefer Life Orb personally, but I already have the orb given to someone else, and Expert Belt is actually not a bad substitute. I haven't tested Substitute yet, but it seems nice in theory because Latios gets targeted by Sucker Punch a -lot- in my experience

Other than that, this should be self explanatory.

sandman Aug 23rd, 2011 1:42:20 PM

I would slash Trick onto the doubles Choices set. Trick can be pretty good for screwing up Cresselia and other supportors, steal Dusclops's Evolite and give it a Scarf and many other uses.

muffinhead Aug 23rd, 2011 1:45:07 PM

latios loves having hp ground for metagross and heatran, and even chandelure in some cases.

cosmicexplorer Aug 23rd, 2011 2:07:51 PM

Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves.

Ashenlock Aug 23rd, 2011 3:14:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat cosmicexplorer (Post 3757445)
Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves.

Agreed. Choice Specs isn't super-common in Double Battles, and is usually passed up for Life Orb or Dragon Gem.

Solace Aug 23rd, 2011 3:17:09 PM

i'm also curious as to why shadow ball on latios

i dont think it really gives it anymore benefit, and there are probably better move choices. (LIKE SURF!)

also i would slash psyshock before psychic, so it isn't totally special wall bait

JRank Aug 23rd, 2011 5:16:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat muffinhead (Post 3757411)
latios loves having hp ground for metagross and heatran, and even chandelure in some cases.

Yeah HP Ground is awesome, if I run Latios I usually run something like Dragon Pulse / HP Ground / Psyshock @ Life Orb / Haban Berry, and it is strong, very strong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat cosmicexplorer (Post 3757445)
Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves.

Yeah Dragon Gem makes Draco Meteor kill everything that doesn't resist it, and even some of those! Also makes Dragon Pulse great.

(yes I know I just seconded other people but they were good suggestions and I wanted re-iterate them so people would know how great HP Ground and Dragon Gem is!)

~Golden Emp Aug 23rd, 2011 9:00:28 PM

Don't forget the Singles Sweeping Latios =D

@Life Orb
Timid
EV's: 252 spatk, 252 spe, 4 def
Thunderbolt/Thunder
Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
Psyshock
Ice Beam/HP Fire

Psyshock OHKO's most Conkeldurr's (Well, I've seen a lot that invest in hp and special defense)

PungentFruit Aug 24th, 2011 8:42:29 AM

Edited in the changes and suggestions.


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