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iss Jan 10th, 2012 9:02:11 PM

Porygon
 
Porygon

Approved by Vader


Overview
Stats and Movepool
Sets


Thanks for reading!

Aerrow Jan 10th, 2012 9:10:49 PM

HOW DARE YOU USE MY TEAM

little gk Jan 10th, 2012 9:21:26 PM

ok I should probably say one or two things that aren't really important, but are worth saying? yeah that sort of!

I actually made the Charge Beam set like last year during the Murkrow meta because I really really liked Prankster and wanted to have fun beating that Featherdance set! I made sure it wasn't 2HKO'd by Brave Bird or something like that (I remember doing a bunch of calcs that I don't actually remember) and theorymoned beating Houndour, Chinchou, Diglett, and having more fun with Pokemon with Natural Cure. I pretty much just wanted to abuse Trace and use it to set up which has worked pretty well over the past year.

The other thing I wanted to say was to be careful when using this Pokemon! As bulky as it is and all that (and status is overhyped imo), you really have to pick and choose your battles, especially in the middle of the game. It's really not worth it against anything besides like Diglett, Chinchou, Bronzor, or other Pokemon that are just destroyed here if you're going to try and do things late in the game. It seems pretty obvious, but Porygon becomes useless when you can't keep it healthy enough to switch in and be free to Recover when necessary which is made a little harder since it has like 10 Speed.

EDIT: [18:05] <@little_gk> porygon is MY mon
[18:05] <@little_gk> forever
[18:05] <@little_gk> in gen5

don't let vader fool you... he's a nazi

Ray Jay Jan 11th, 2012 12:15:24 AM

Why is this Pokemon so good? I'll tell you. "If Ice Beam can freeze, it will."

In all seriousness, this guy's one of the most underrated mons in the metagame. Think of an Abra that can set up and take hits and Recover. Used in conjunction with Larvesta is pretty annoying to pump Mienfoo out of the way (I don't care what set you run, Mienfoo's not going to use Stone Edge against a +1 Porygon). I've also seen it used with Exeggcute and, as you mentioned, Toxic Spikes.

All I can say is thank you GK!

Methmite Jan 11th, 2012 9:09:20 AM

Porygon really suffers from the fact that its normal type. fightings tend to roll the fuck all over it.

Mienfoo, timburr, hell even Scarf-chop can just beat it to hell and back before it has the opprotunity to do much else that get its Download boost. running larvest like ray said is a good way to deal with it; but its important to remember to deal with it at all when you decide to run him.

Pen Ink Jan 11th, 2012 4:53:32 PM

I can say that Porygon is a really good Trick Room abuser (albeit, waaay better in 4th Gen. In fact, I don't even think he can be used with TR in 5th Gen). I used Trick Room throughout half of 4th Gen (after Missy, which I wasn't there for), and he was fucking incredible. I believe I ran something like:

Porygon @ Life Orb
Trace
EV's: Max Sp.A, etc
Quiet Nature
- Tri Attack
- coverage
- coverage
- Trick Room

LO STAB Tri Attack hit like a fucking truck. Seriously, I could suicide lead my TR Exeggcute and go out right to Porygon and start sweeping. Unfortunately, Porygon really can't run a raw power set anymore, even in TR. Eviolite makes shit way too hard to KO along with so much fighting types it's not funny (and, no surprise there, they all run Eviolite).

iss Jan 11th, 2012 9:10:44 PM

What Goldenknight said is practically essential to the usage of Porygon. If you're going to use Porygon, read his post!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Methmite (Post 4057202)
Porygon really suffers from the fact that its normal type. fightings tend to roll the fuck all over it.

Mienfoo, timburr, hell even Scarf-chop can just beat it to hell and back before it has the opprotunity to do much else that get its Download boost. running larvest like ray said is a good way to deal with it; but its important to remember to deal with it at all when you decide to run him.

Porygon is not a standalone Pokemon in the way Mienfoo or Chinchou is. Although it doesn't need an entire team to support it, it definitely means that you need to run good Fighting-type counters like Eviolite Gastly or Larvesta. Remember that against most teams you will not be sweeping with Porygon until late-game—unless it's a heavy stall team and you manage to dodge Toxic. Porygon is a situational counter, and by that I mean for the early- to mid-game you should not be taking too much damage and Recovering instead of going for kills (like Goldenknight said).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pen Ink (Post 4057594)
I can say that Porygon is a really good Trick Room abuser (albeit, waaay better in 4th Gen. In fact, I don't even think he can be used with TR in 5th Gen). I used Trick Room throughout half of 4th Gen (after Missy, which I wasn't there for), and he was fucking incredible. I believe I ran something like:

Porygon @ Life Orb
Trace
EV's: Max Sp.A, etc
Quiet Nature
- Tri Attack
- coverage
- coverage
- Trick Room

LO STAB Tri Attack hit like a fucking truck. Seriously, I could suicide lead my TR Exeggcute and go out right to Porygon and start sweeping. Unfortunately, Porygon really can't run a raw power set anymore, even in TR. Eviolite makes shit way too hard to KO along with so much fighting types it's not funny (and, no surprise there, they all run Eviolite).

This is a powerful set, but in the current metagame you can't OHKO Mienfoo via Tri Attack, which forces you into using Psychic for one of your coverage moves (pretty bad move outside of hitting Mienfoo) so the overall viability of offensive TR Porygon is limited. As a Trick Room supporter however, it is one of the best due to the combination of bulk and Recover. It also synergizes pretty well with Slowpoke, as Slowpoke can Trick Room on Mienfoo, Croagunk, and Timburr while Porygon easily gets a Trick Room up on Chinchou and Staryu.

Furai Jan 12th, 2012 11:20:09 AM

Oh my god, Porygon is so amazing under Hail. It's EXTREMELY bulky, and very hard to stop. Blizzard hits so hard. It completely wrecks Stall teams if you switch into Tentacool, Tracing its Liquid Ooze. Ferroseed comes in and Leech Seeds you, while takes damage. +1 Blizzard does 36%. Amazing Pokemon!

iss Jan 13th, 2012 6:01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Furai (Post 4058857)
Oh my god, Porygon is so amazing under Hail. It's EXTREMELY bulky, and very hard to stop. Blizzard hits so hard. It completely wrecks Stall teams if you switch into Tentacool, Tracing its Liquid Ooze. Ferroseed comes in and Leech Seeds you, while takes damage. +1 Blizzard does 36%. Amazing Pokemon!

This really demonstrates how useful of an ability Trace is. If you Trace the right ability, you're golden. This is probably best shown in the 6-0 sweep, as without Fighting-types it is nearly impossible to stop a Porygon that cannot be statused.

I'd like to give a special mention of Porygon in hail. Blizzard has the same BP as STAB Tri Attack, so it will do a lot of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. The only problem is Fighting-types, but you should have an answer for those on any hail team. Scarf Porygon also does pretty well in Hail, as Blizzard is just amazing to spam.


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