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Harsha Mar 14th, 2012 1:43:23 PM

Dream World CCAT (Signups for laddering!)
 
Dream World CCAT
Taken over from macle. Hosted by Harsha.

Hello Dream World DST! To liven up this forum, we're going to run a CCAT, a Community Create-a-Team. That means that we as a community will be voting on various Pokemon and sets to build the best team we can possibly build. The rules are as follows (copied from Pocket's OU CCAT):

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Step 1: We are going to start by picking which forgotten Pokemon (and set) we are going to be basing the team around. This does NOT mean the Pokemon has to be the late game sweeper, it means the team will be built around that Pokemon, whatever role it plays. This thread is for nominating Pokemon to be added to a poll (Pokemon that you think fit the description of a "forgotten" Pokemon). After a couple of days (probably around one-two days, until enough Pokemon are in the poll (around 10)), I will select which Pokemon are going to be in the poll that will be posted after we decide on a list of Pokemon. This means you have to convince me, and others, that your Pokemon is worth being put in the vote. <We are using Meloetta!>

Note: A "Forgotten Wonder" is something is less used then the average DW OU Pokemon / set, but is still powerful enough to be used in the standard metagame. So no Caterpies, Magikarp, Beldum, etc. Thanks.

Step 2: We select what style of team we want to make. This will likely include something along the lines of Offense, Bulky Offense, Weather, Trick Room, and possibly more.<We are doing rain offense!>

Step 3: We select Pokemon that work well around our Pokemon and fit the team style and test it.<We have our teammates!>

Step 4: We fine-tune the team based on our experiences in test-driving the team on the ladder<We are laddering now!>

Step 5: We finalize the team and write up a 5-star RMT!

These are the steps we, as a community, will be following. If you are going to post here, please try and be helpful and do not troll.

Code:

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Meloetta @ Expert Belt
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
Hasty Nature (+Spe, -Def)
- Relic Song
- Close Combat
- Thunder
- Hidden Power Ice

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Politoed @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power Grass
- Perish Song

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Terrakion @ Air Balloon
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
- Swords Dance
- Rock Polish
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge

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Keldeo @ Leftovers
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Hydro Pump / Surf
- Secret Sword

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Latias
@ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 92 HP / 164 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psyshock
- Dragon Pulse / Surf
- Recover

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Ferrothorn @ Shed Shell
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD | 0 Spe
Relaxed Nature (+SpD, -Spe)
- Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip


DDRMaster Mar 14th, 2012 2:08:30 PM

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Amoongus @ Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SpDef
Nature: Calm

~ Spore
~ Giga Drain
~ Clear Smog
~ Stun Spore/Hidden Power [Ice]

Thanks to Regenerator, Amoongus can come in on resisted hits and an attack off, likely crippling one of the opponent's Pokemon. It can even beat Volt Turn by either constantly switching into the opponent's Volt Switch, or taking a Choice Band Scizor's U-turn before firing off a Spore. Spore is to put things to Sleep and Giga Drain is your primary STAB and gives you a bit of healing.

Clear Smog eliminates all boosts on the apposing Pokemon, provided they're not a Steel-type or behind a Substitute. This allows Amoongus to counter Contrary Serperior, as a Leaf Storm, +2 SE Hidden Power, and two unboosted Hidden Powers won't KO Amoongus (provided Serperior's holding Leftovers), while it can easily 3HKO back with Clear Smog. Stun Spore allows Amoongus to keep crippling your opponent's sweepers after you've activated Sleep Clause but HP Ice means that Amoongus won't be set up fodder for Substitute Dragonite.

NixHex Mar 14th, 2012 2:39:11 PM

Gengar
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Set Title: Substitute
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Item: Leftovers
-Substitute
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Hypnosis / Disable / Hidden Power Fire

We all know how Sub-Disable Gengar works, but so does your opponent. I'd like to steer clear of Disable if we can help it, and dole out some frustrating status to your opponent with Hypnosis. Disable is still an amazing option if you play cautiously. Hidden Power Fire is mentioned last as Scizor is nowhere to be seen and Focus Blast only does slightly less to Ferrothorn (more, in fact, in the rain)

Danilo Mar 14th, 2012 7:43:16 PM

Mamoswine (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Frustration / Stealth Rock
- Icicle Crash

Mamoswine is a threat that most players don't account for when team building. The top 10 can't switch in on it and priority is amazing in this meta as the more priority you have, the better you do against HO teams.

BTzz Mar 14th, 2012 7:45:21 PM

I'd love to see a team built around this Meloetta set that shrang made:

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Meloetta @ Expert Belt
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
Nature: Hasty
- Relic Song
- Close Combat
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Ice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat shrang
Basically, the idea of the set is to set up multiple layers of hazards, and then spam Relic Song to force switches. Counters to Meloetta-A tend to be weak to Meloetta-P (Blissey, Snorlax, Tyranitar), while counters to Meloetta-P tend to be weak to Meloetta-A (Skarmory, Gliscor). The idea is to spam Relic Song and keep changing forms and stay one step ahead of the opposition. With these games going on, you can probably HP Ice a Gliscor or something like that and secure a sweep for Excadrill and stuff. With Fighting resists removed, Meloetta-P can handily clean up teams by itself as well. The EVs used let you outspeed Adamant Lucario as Meloetta-A and Alakazam as Meloetta-P.


Trinitrotoluene Mar 14th, 2012 7:45:57 PM

You asked me on Treehouse already, so here it is:

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Volcarona (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Quiver Dance
- Fire Blast
- Bug Buzz
- Substitute

Besides Heatran and the blobs, not much can switch into Volcarona once it's behind a Sub. With the Sub intact, Ditto can't revenge kill this Volcarona.

yaysnivy34 Mar 14th, 2012 7:58:11 PM

Ambipom @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Nature: Jolly
Fake Out
U-Turn / Frustration
Low Kick / Low Sweep
Pursuit

Totally and completely underrated, but is actually a really good Pokemon. "Leads" aren't really viable anymore due to Team Preview, but this acts more like a scout. Ambipom can switch numerous times throughout the match to see what kind of set a Pokemon is running. However, with Chandelure running around, Fake Out becomes less useful, so that would be the issue Ambipom's teammates would have to cover.

Harsha Mar 14th, 2012 10:06:01 PM

Alright, I'll give this a go.

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Blaziken @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Blaze Kick / Flare Blitz
- Hi Jump Kick

While this is more untested theorymon rather than actual experience, it works very similarly to the standard set. However, instead of Protect, Substitute allows Blaziken to stop revenge killing attempts. While this may seem bad with Flare Blitz recoil and Hi Jump Kick's shaky accuracy, Leftovers can mitigate that problem. Feraligatr and Azumarill are the only priority users stopping Blaziken once it gets a Substitute up, and who uses them? Blaziken is easily one of the most frightening Pokemon in the current metagame, but it's really underused. I mean come on. Charizard is used more than it is. Charizard. Anyhow, major props to NixHex, from whom I stole this idea when discussing it on IRC.

animus_vox


wrath_of_entei

jap killa Mar 14th, 2012 11:35:05 PM

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Feraligatr (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Sheer Force
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Punch


This Feraligatr set is a huge threat in the rain

blaZofgold Mar 14th, 2012 11:48:16 PM

Typhlosion @ Choice Specs
Flash Fire
252 SpA / 252 Spe Timid
-Eruption
-Solarbeam
-Focus Blast
-HP Rock

Scariest thing in the sun to date. Without the sun, still pretty scary.

Calm Pokemaster Mar 15th, 2012 6:31:52 AM

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Alakazam @ Focus Sash
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psyshock / Psychic
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast

Alakazam is an underrated threat in the DW Metagame, and I think it perfectly fits the moniker of a ''Forgotten Wonder''. What makes it so dangerous is its fantastic base 120 Speed, allowing it to get the jump on all the base 110s, 108s, 111s, Starmie, and Serperior. Magic Guard is a godsend for Alakazam, ensuring that it can keep its Focus Sash intact as long as you don't switch into a move. Agreed, Alakazam takes hits about as well as well as a wet tomato, but with that blazing fast Speed, you will be outspeeding most of the unboosted metagame. Basically, you switch in after a KO on something which Alazakam threatens, like Ferrothorn, Calm Mind as they switch to a Scarf user which outspeeds Alazakam, take the hit with Focus Sash, and sweep. The best thing is that this thing can also function as a revenge killer to Choice Scarf users like Chandelure and Terrakion who will always stay in, only for you to survive their attack and KO with the appropriate move.

Harsha Mar 15th, 2012 9:37:48 AM

spanish_armada


pt II

Sayonara Mar 15th, 2012 1:29:55 PM

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Lilligant (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
~ Quiver Dance
~ Petal Dance
~ Hidden Power [Fire]
~ Sleep Powder

I know you asked me on Treehouse last night when I was battling Rick, so sorry for being late! Here you go, good luck Harsha!

Tomahawk9 Mar 15th, 2012 1:51:41 PM

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Empoleon @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
- Agility
- Substitute
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Grass Knot / Ice Beam

Empoleon is such as boss, seriously. When fully setup and with rain support, Surf is incredibly powerful and can even KO resists such as Celebi and Dragonite after Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes. Hydro Pump can even KO Blissey after Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes! To put it into perspective, Hydro Pump is 89% more poewrful than Specs Latios Draco Meteor and Surf is 49% more powerful, so unless you have a very bulky resist or Chansey you'll have problems with this thing. Either Grass Knot or Ice Beam in the last slot lets you take care resists, depending on what your team needs. Grass Knot hits Water-types, but is mainly just for Jellicent and Gastrodon since Gyarados, Rotom-W, Starmie, Keldeo and Politoed are all KOed by Surf in the rain. Ice Beam hits Dragon and Grass-types, but most already take huge damage from rain-boosted Surf or Hydro Pump, bar Dragonite with Multiscale intact and bulky Latias.

complete legitimacy Mar 15th, 2012 5:43:53 PM

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Thundurus (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot
- Focus Blast

A simple Nasty Plot Thundurus. It's ridiculously powerful after just one boost, and STAB Thunderbolt destroys, like, everything. Grass Knot is the move of choice, hitting common switch-ins such as Gastrodon, Swampert, and Quagsire for OHKOs. It also OHKOs Raikou after Stealth Rock without having to resort to Focus Blast, which will lose you games but is necessary to hit Blissey, Chansey, and Ferrothorn.

Harsha Mar 15th, 2012 5:47:21 PM

Updated through Thundurus!

Now, the people in #dw and I have agreed that we've received enough nominations. From now, we will be voting for which Pokemon to base our team around. This will be going on until Wednesday, the 21st of March at noon. Let's get this done guys!!!

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Nominees:
- Alakazam
- Ambipom
- Amoonguss
- Blaziken
- Empoleon
- Feraligatr
- Gengar
- Lilligant
- Mamoswine
- Meloetta
- Thundurus
- Typhlosion
- Volcarona
Nominate your top 3 Pokemon. The first Pokemon you list gets 5 points, the second you list gets 3, and the third you list gets 2.

Omicron Mar 15th, 2012 5:50:47 PM

Volcarona
Alakazam
Meloetta

shrang Mar 15th, 2012 5:56:26 PM

Meloetta
Feraligatr
Empoleon

BTzz Mar 15th, 2012 6:02:18 PM

Meloetta
Empoleon
Alakazam

Sayonara Mar 15th, 2012 6:03:34 PM

Volcarona
Lilligant
Alakazam

Danilo Mar 15th, 2012 6:06:04 PM

Meloetta
Empoleon
Volcarona

mostwanted Mar 15th, 2012 6:19:07 PM

Meloetta
Feraligatr
Volcarona

TrollFreak Mar 15th, 2012 6:22:05 PM

Empoleon
Feraligatr
Meloetta

Pocket Mar 15th, 2012 6:22:13 PM

Meloetta
Empoleon
Feraligatr

alexwolf Mar 15th, 2012 6:33:20 PM

Meloetta
Alakazam
Empoleon


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