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DFrog Apr 8th, 2012 12:37:58 AM

Scourge of the Tier: RU (Peaked #41)
 
Scourge of the Tier: RU
A DFrog RMT

Welcome to my RMT fellow smogon members, this is an RMT based on a run in with a Life Orb Hitmonchan in UU. After seeing the damage it did the UU team that I was running at the time, I decided to create an RU team using the boxer. To my astonishment the team is quite the success, at the moment peaking at #41 on the smogon ladder, needless to say that is quite impressive with the help of you, the smogon members, I hope to break into the top 20 of the RU ladder.

TEAM BUILDING:

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AT A GLANCE:
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IN DEPTH:


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Hitmonchan - The Punching Pokemon
(M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Iron Fist
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- ThunderPunch
- Mach Punch


Hitmonchan, the star of the show. Leading the team to an early victory. Often times I do lead with Hitmonchan if the team members of the other team are weak to Hitmonchan’s stab and coverage moves. Drain Punch and Mach Punch are Punching poke’s primary tools of destruction punching holes through the opposition and picking off weakened or frail combatants. Drain Punch doing half to the standard Steelix set which not many physical sweepers can boast. Drain Punch is used over Close Combat as Drain Punch gets the Iron Fist boost, the move serves as a means of recovery and Close Combat forces you to switch after use due to the defense drop whereas Drain Punch does not have the same drawback. Often coming in after Lanturn’s Volt Switch, Thunder Punch is complementary dealing the finishing blow to Qwilfish arguably one of Hitmonchan’s biggest threats. Ice Punch is there to create a pseudo Bolt Beam combination. Ice Punch does not see much usage unless frail grass types are in, i.e. anything but Tangrowth as Ice Punch only manages a measly 30%-40% to the spaghetti monster.

Weaknesses:
PSYCHIC - Skuntank
FLYING - Lanturn

Replacements/Changes:
N/A - Hitmonchan performs consistently, blowing holes in the opposition being an irreplaceable member of the team. Bullet Punch may be a worthy option on the set to hit frail ghost types however if I were to make room for it Ice Punch would go making it difficult of Hitmonchan to touch Tangrowth




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Entei - The Volcano Pokemon
@ Choice Band
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Flare Blitz
- ExtremeSpeed
- Stone Edge
- Hidden Power [Grass]


Entei is not used a lot compared to his fighting brother. However when he is used, Entei shines. Offering one of the most powerful stab moves in RU, Flare Blitz is a wrecking machine. Offensive variants of Slowking can be two hit KO’ed on the switch, given max damage twice. Extreme Speed is very complementary to the other priority moves in the team, being able to pick off frail pokemon from 75% of health and below which is something Hitmontop finds difficult to do. Stone Edge and Hidden Power Grass are both fillers they find no use on the set, a resisted Flare Blitz often does the same as Hidden Power and Extreme Speed is more reliable at picking off Moltres than Stone Edge’s shaky accuracy. Tangrowth is eaten alive by the Volcano pokemon, being is immediately threatened out as Entei enters the field, for fear of being burned by the powerful Flare Blitz. Qwilfish is a hard counter to this choice locked Entei taking nothing from Flare Blitz after intimidate.


Weaknesses:
WATER: Sceptile, Lanturn
ROCK: Sandslash, Hitmonchan
GROUND: Sceptile, Sandslash

Replacements/Changes:
N/A - Entei offers a lot in gaining momentum and wall breaking. It is difficult to bring in Entei appropriately given amount of water/rock/ground pokemon that litter the tier. If you provide a good argument Entei may be replaced


http://pldh.net/media/pokecons_action/435.gifhttp://media.pldh.net/gallery/the493/thumb_skuntank.jpghttp://pldh.net/media/pokecons_action/435.gif
Skuntank - The Skunk Pokemon
(M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Aftermath
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- Taunt
- Poison Jab


Skuntank is performs a vital role to the team, disposing of ghost/psychic pokemon with its powerful Dark stab moves. Taunt is the crux of this set, forcing many of the ghost or psychic pokemon to switch as they don’t have a attacking move (that can harm Skuntank) or are unwilling to take a Sucker Punch, only to be nailed by Pursuit. Skuntank is a solid check/counter to many of the ghost and psychic pokemon in the tier. Poison Jab is a stab coverage move allowing me to hit set up sweepers who are anticipating a Sucker Punch or allowing me to finish off a sweeper that is slower without worry of missing a Sucker Punch. The move pool of Skuntank however allows him to be completely countered by Steelix. Skuntank’s poison typing allows me to absorb toxic and toxic spikes that threaten Lanturn. This is useful when countering pokemon that commonly like to poison Lanturn for example Crygonal is killed by Pursuit when switching.

Weaknesses:
Ground: Sandslash, Sceptile

Replacements/Changes:
N/A: Skuntank is an irreplaceable member of the team, rarely failing to nab 1 or 2 KO’s a battle. The pursuit trapping service is very hard to find in the lower tiers and Skuntank delivers.


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Lanturn - The Light Pokemon
(F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 40 HP / 244 Def / 8 SAtk / 216 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Volt Switch
- Heal Bell


Lanturn is the team cleric and resident bulky water. Lanturn provides Heal Bell which is much appreciated by her team members. The slow Volt Switch she provides an extremely useful service to the team when switching in other team members that can squash whoever Lanturn is facing. The fact that Volt Switch is also stab makes its even sweeter to use. Scald is extremely useful when facing ground types and physical sweepers as the super effective coverage and the burn chance is desirable to Lanturn to effectively sponge hits. Ice Beam is only used towards the endgame, when Entei is gone, to maim Tangrowth so Sceptile can finish the job. Volt Absorb is very useful to stop other Lanturn from Volt Switching and absorbing Thunder Waves from Qwilfishes.

Weaknesses:
GROUND: Sceptile, Sandslash
GRASS: Sceptile, Entei, Skuntank

Replacements/Changes:
N/A: Lanturn provides valuable services to the team, in the form of Volt Switch and Heal Bell. She is also one of the more bulkier members of the team. This being said the are very few pokemon that can do the same duties as Lanturn can. The only thing that could make Lanturn better is instant recovery


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Sceptile- The Forest Pokemon
(F) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Ice]/[Rock]
- Focus Blast


Sceptile is the special powerhouse of this team. Blowing the opposition away with Leaf Storm, rarely failing to do less than a 50% to most threats. Spec’s Sceptile is a true threat in the RU meta game. I often rely on sceptile to muscle through physical walls that Entei or Hitmonchan cannot hope to break through. Being one of the fastest pokemon in the tier with a blistering 120 base speed I also rely on Sceptile to revenge fast threats like Galavantula and Moltres with Hidden Power Rock. However I also rely on Sceptile to dispose of Tangrowth who is crushed under Hidden Power Ice. Therein lies the problem which Hidden Power type do I choose? Giga Drain is used when Sceptile is the last pokemon left or I only need to take out one pokemon without risking a Lead Storm miss (which happens more often than you’d think). Sceptile is usually left at full HP for most of the game due to the amount of recovery that is gained from Giga Drain. Focus Blast is for Boufallant who eats my grass stabs for breakfast although Hitmonchan is the resident fighting type, Focus Blast is very useful for coverage against steel types.

Weaknesses:
FIRE: Lanturn, Entei
FLYING: Lanturn
BUG: Entei, Skuntank, Hitmonchan
ICE: Entei, Lanturn
POISON: Sandslash, Skuntank

Replacements/Changes:
N/A - Sceptile is another irreplaceable member of the team. She deals with the faster threats that cannot be handled with priority and physical walls that the Hitmonchan and Entei core cannot touch without prior damage. At the moment I am not testing HP Rock over Ice.


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Sandslash - The Mouse Pokemon
(M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Toxic


Sandslash is the other half of my defensive core. Being able to tank earthquakes that severely harm my team. In addition to this Sandslash is the resident spinner and the pokemon in charge of setting up Stealth Rocks to support the rest of the team. As Sandslash carries rapid spin, it is a lure for ghost types to block the spin. Toxic is especially useful as the ghost switch is fairly predictable, the poison reduces the life span of the ghost provoking the switch for pursuit trapping. Sandslash is rather replaceable, most games I do not get stealth rocks up however the shrew serves as a great buffer of physical attacks.

Weaknesses:
WATER: Lanturn, Sceptile
ICE: Entei, Lanturn
GRASS:Sceptile, Skuntank


Replacements/Changes:
Yes - Uxie seems like a viable replacement for Sandslash. Having greater bulk, access to U-turn, Heal Bell and Stealth Rock and extra resistance fighting and an immunity to Ground moves make Uxie better than Sandslash in most situations. However the ability to spin hazards away makes Sandslash useful for Entei’s survivability and luring ghosts.


Final Look
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Importable:
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DFrog Apr 8th, 2012 12:38:30 AM

RU Offensive Threats

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/359.png Absol: Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/617.png Accelgor: Uncommon however Entei or Skuntank
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/142.png Aerodactyl: Uncommon however Sceptile, Hitmonchan or Lanturn
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/306.png Aggron: Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/567.png Archeops: Sceptile
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/626.png Bouffalant: Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/6.png Charizard:Stealth Rocks + Lanturn
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/563.png Cofagrigus: Taunt + Skuntank
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/342.png Crawdaunt: Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/452.png Drapion: Difficult for the team however Sandslash is a great check
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/621.png Druddigon: Never seen it however Lanturn should work
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/466.png Electivire: Sandslash
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/244.png Entei: Lanturn + Stealth Rocks + Priority
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/160.png Feraligatr: Lanturn + Skuntank priority
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/475.png Gallade: Lanturn + Burn or Skuntank
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/596.png Galvantula: Sceptile with HP Rock / Entei
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/623.png Golurk: Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/368.png Gorebyss: Priority/Sceptile
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/297.png Hariyama: Sandslash/Sceptile
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/107.png Hitmonchan: Lanturn + Burn / Entei / Sceptile
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/106.png Hitmonlee: Hitmonchan/Lanturn + Burn / Sceptile
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/124.png Jynx: Lanturn/Skuntank
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/141.png Kabutops:Sceptile/Skuntank
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/601.png Klinklang:Hitmonchan/Sandslash
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/549.png Lilligant: Taunt+Skuntank/Entei
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/264.png Linoone: Entei/Skuntank/Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/272.png Ludicolo: Skuntank/Entei/Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/82.png Magneton: Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/310.png Manectric: Lanturn
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/308.png Medicham: Entei/Skuntank/Sceptile (non scarfed variants)
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/146.png Moltres: Stealth Rocks/Lanturn/Sceptile HP Rock (Non scarf Variants)
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/139.png Omastar: Sceptile/Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/62.png Poliwrath: Sceptile/Lanturn/Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/57.png Primeape: Sandslash/Hitmonchan/Skuntank/Entei
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/479.png Rotom: Skuntank/Lanturn
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/479-mow.png Rotom-C: Skuntank/Entei/Lanturn
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/503.png Samurott: Lanturn/Sceptile/Skuntank/Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...586-spring.png Sawsbuck: Hitmonchan/Entei
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/254.png Sceptile: Entei/Skuntank/
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/545.png Scolipede: Sandslash/Entei
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/123.png Scyther: Stealth Rocks/Lanturn/Sandslash/Entei/Skuntank
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/561.png Sigilyph: Taunt+Skuntank/Lanturn/Hitmonchan(after volt switch)
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/157.png Typhlosion: Entei/Lanturn/Skuntank/Hitmonchan
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/71.png Victreebel:Entei/Skuntank/Hitmonchan

Coming Soon
RU Defensive Threats

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/594.png Alomomola:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/344.png Claydol:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/36.png Clefable:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/563.png Cofagrigus:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/558.png Crustle:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/615.png Cryogonal:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/452.png Drapion:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/477.png Dusknoir:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/597.png Ferroseed:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/207.png Gligar:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/141.png Kabutops:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/171.png Lanturn:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/272.png Ludicolo:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/630.png Mandibuzz:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/481.png Mesprit:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/241.png Miltank:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/446.png Munchlax:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/139.png Omastar
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/62.png Poliwrath:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/476.png Probopass:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/195.png Quagsire:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/211.png Qwilfish:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/377.png Regirock:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/112.png Rhydon:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/315.png Roselia:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/28.png Sandslash:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/561.png Sigilyph:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/199.png Slowking:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/442.png Spiritomb:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/208.png Steelix:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/618.png Stunfisk:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/465.png Tangrowth:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/480.png Uxie:
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/icons/547.png Whimsicott:

Bigblue Apr 9th, 2012 12:41:02 PM

Hitmonchan is not a check to crawdaunt as if it gets a sub up it can hit you with a waterfall and then finish you off with an aquajet or they will switch to a ghost after sub is broken and you will have sustained massive damage. Or if he is a sub DD set after 1 DD he can take a mach punch and OHKO your Hitmonchan.

SkullCandy Apr 9th, 2012 1:23:48 PM

Nice team by the way, Life Orb Hitmonchan is beast.

I'm not too sure about your Sandslash set, however. You say it's pretty replaceable and I can see why; defensive Sandslash is really quite underwhelming. First off it gets destroyed by most spin blockers. Rotom can come in on the Rapid Spin, set up a Sub to block Toxic and whittle Sandslash away with Shadow Ball. Also, by running such a defensive Pokemon on such an offensive team doesn't make much sense; that 'mon is always going to end up lagging behind. That is why I suggest you change Sandslash to the mighty Swords Dance Sandslash. I've been runnning it for a while now and can say that it is really good.

Sandslash @ Lum Berry
Ability: Sand Rush (not that it matters)
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
-Swords Dance
-Rapid Spin
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

This can lure in and beat a lot of spin blockers. Without significant HP investment Rotom is always KOed by Stone Edge after Stealth Rock (and even bulkier versions have about a 50% chance of being KOed). Spiritomb is slower than Sandslash and can't take two +2 Earthquakes. The same applies to Dusknoir and Cofagrigus. This set can still take a good amount of physical abuse thanks to full HP investment but obviously isn't as bulky as your previous set. No Stealth Rock sucks but as you said you rarely find an opportunity to set it up any way so you shouldn't note it's absence too much.

DFrog Apr 9th, 2012 4:30:47 PM

I like the idea of an offensive sandslash, I'll give it a a go. Rotom has been a threat to the team as of late. Is the OHKO before or after +2?

SkullCandy Apr 10th, 2012 8:54:54 AM

After +2.


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