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SimonSays Aug 28th, 2012 10:02:56 PM

Kaxtar vs Frosty! 4v4 Doubles! (SS Refs)
 
The rules of engagement:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kaxtar
4v4 Doubles, weak FE
1 Sub per Pokemon
Items on (though it can just be training, if you prefer)
Unown soup Arena
36 hour DQ, fairly strict
Switch = KO
Abilities = All
Items = Training

And now, the Battlers:

Kaxtar's Team!
Necturine
Mollux
Regirock
Gliscor


Frosty's Team!
Poltergeist the Rotom (prolly -W)


Dethl the Fidgit


Nudeln the Tangrowth


Jalhalla the Chandelure


And now, go hit each other.

Kaxtar Sends Out Pokemon, then Specifies Items
Frosty Sends Out Pokemon, Specifies Items, then Orders
Kaxtar Orders
I Ref

Kaxtar Aug 29th, 2012 12:20:51 AM

Necturna and Regirock. Necturna uses a Life Orb, Regirock an Exp share.

Frosty Aug 29th, 2012 5:31:32 AM

I forgot to say earlier, Kaxtar, but is it possible to be items = training? I never got to buying items, so I have pretty much none.

But since I am only bringing this up now, feel free to say "no".

Meanwhile...

"Alright, this looks a bit dangerous, but let us try our best!"

Go Nudeln and Jalhalla with nothing!

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.png http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/609.png

Let's begin with something simple.

Jalhalla (Chandelure): Sunny day - Solar Beam @ Regirock - Fire Blast@ Necturna
IF you are Taunted A1 AND Unown B wasn't used, Replace Sunny Day with Unown B (Blue Flare) @ Necturna


Nudeln (Tangrowth): Giga Drain @ Regirock - Power Whip @Regirock - Giga Drain @ Regirock

Kaxtar Aug 29th, 2012 1:27:27 PM

Alright, Necturna takes another Exp Share instead.

Necturna: Shadow Ball Chandelure~Ominous Wind Chandelure~Unown S (Shadow Force) Chandelure
Regirock: Dig~Stay Underground~Dig+Stone Edge Combo Chandelure

Bye bye chandy, and hopefully Regirock takes no damage if it wins the speed tie A1.

SimonSays Aug 30th, 2012 8:21:33 AM

Pre-Round Information:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Necturna (Necturna) [F] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: 100 | 100
En: 100 | 100
Spe: 70 | 50
Stats: -10 Eva. | None
Other: None | None
Team: None

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/609.png
Chandelure (Jalhalla) [M] | Tangegrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: 90 | 110
En: 100 | 100
Spe: 69 | 50
Stats: -10 Eva. | None
Other: None | None
Team: None

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

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Round 1 Starts!

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Do you guys want flavour or pace?

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Round 1 Ends!

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Post-Round Information:
The Sun is Shining Brightly... (3 Rounds Left)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Necturna (Necturna) [F] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: 100 | 83
En: 82 | 59
Spe: 70 | 50
Stats: -10 Eva. | None
Other: None | Cooldown
Team: None

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/609.png
Chandelure (Jalhalla) [M] | Tangrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: -3 (KO'd) | 110
En: 76 | 70
Spe: 69 | 50 (100)
Stats: -10 Eva. | *2 Spe (Chloro.)
Other: Fainted! | None
Team: None

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

Calculations


Base Stats and Abilities


Frosty Sends Out Pokemon, Specifying Item
Kaxtar Orders
Frosty Orders
I Ref

Frosty Aug 30th, 2012 11:42:46 AM

I'll go with Dethl the fidgit, no items.

Kaxtar Aug 30th, 2012 11:58:43 AM

Regirock: Cooldown~Dig Fidgit~Lock-On Fidgit
Necturna: Power Whip Fidgit~Leaf Storm Fidgit~Leaf Blade Fidgit

Frosty Aug 30th, 2012 5:20:48 PM

I see...

Dethl: Encore Necturna - Toxic Necturna - Helping Hand
Nudeln: Power Whip Regirock - Giga Drain Regirock - Unown-F (Frenzy Plant) Regirock.



Dethl (Fidgit): COMBO (Sludge Bomb + Sludge Bomb)@Necturna - cooldown - Helping Hand

Nudeln (Tangrowth): Hidden Power Necturna - Hidden Power Necturna - Unown B(Blast Burn) Necturna

SimonSays Sep 1st, 2012 5:16:56 AM

I'm going to call ref's discretion and say that Unown moves can't be Encored. If any other refs disagree, please VM.
And then by extension, Frosty needs to reorder. You can't use an attacking move of over 5 En while Sluggish.

Frosty Sep 1st, 2012 5:58:36 AM

Okay, I disagree.

"Grab the S Unown and use Shadow Force" is a move and since it is a move, it can be encored, like any other RP move. The description for encore doesn't mention not working with RP moves. In fact it has 0 restrictions other than "can't encore after encore".

The encore would make Necturna try to grab the S Unown again, but since there is none it would fail. I honestly can't see how it can't work.


That being said, in case you don't change your mind, I've changed the actions.

SimonSays Sep 4th, 2012 2:25:26 AM

Before we carry on:
Leethoof's alphabet soup


I highlighted and underlined the important bit. It is entirely impossible for Unown S to be used again.

Pre-Round Information:
The Sun is Shining Brightly... (3 Rounds Left)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Necturna (Necturna) [F] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: 100 | 83
En: 82 | 59
Spe: 70 | 50
Stats: -10 Eva. | None
Other: None | Cooldown
Team: None

http://cap.smogon.com/Sprites/frontnormal-mfidgit.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.png
Fidgit (Dethl) [M] | Tangrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: 100 | 110
En: 100 | 71
Spe: 105 | 50 (100)
Stats: None | *2 Spe (Chloro.)
Other: None | None
Team: None

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

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Round 2 Starts!

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I'll take your silence to mean 'Pace, please.'

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Round 2 Ends!

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Post-Round Information:
The Sun is Shining Brightly... (2 Rounds Left)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Necturna (Necturna) [F] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: 44 | 83
En: 61 | 43
Spe: 70 | 50
Stats: -10 Eva. | None
Other: None | None
Team: None

http://cap.smogon.com/Sprites/frontnormal-mfidgit.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.png
Fidgit (Dethl) [M] | Tangrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: 39 | 110
En: 55 | 46
Spe: 105 | 50 (100)
Stats: None | *2 Spe (Chloro.)
Other: Lock'd Onto | Sluggish
Team: None

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

Calculations


Base Stats and Abilities


Frosty Orders
Kaxtar Orders
I Ref

Frosty Sep 4th, 2012 8:52:40 PM

...forgot about forewarn.

Okay, when this is over, I am buying a Necturna for myself!

anyway, my hands are tied and my crappy start crippled me, so let's just end this.

Fidgit: Encore (Regirock) - Tailwind - Air Slash (Necturna)
IF Necturna uses Protect A3, replace A3 with Earth Power (Regirock)

Tangrowth: Hidden Power (Necturna) - Eruption (Unown E) - Hidden Power (Necturna)
IF Unown E is used by the time you move, replace A2 with Unown F-Flare Blitz (Necturna)
IF Necturna uses Protect, replace current action with Giga Drain (Regirock), DON'T PUSH BACK and DON'T DO IT TWO ACTIONS IN A ROW.

Kaxtar Sep 5th, 2012 4:42:20 PM

Regirock: Unown P (Protect)~Earthquake~Unown V V-Create Tangrowth
Necturna: Psychic+Psychic Combo Fidgit~Cooldown~Unown A Aeroblast Tangrowth

SimonSays Sep 5th, 2012 5:00:15 PM

Kaxtar, you cannot have 1 Pokemon use Multiple Unown in 1 Round. Please Reorder.

Kaxtar Sep 5th, 2012 8:01:43 PM

Ahh, sorry, knew I was forgetting something.

Change Regirock's last action to Stone Edge Tangrowth.

SimonSays Sep 7th, 2012 11:44:35 PM

Pre-Round Information:
The Sun is Shining Brightly... (2 Rounds Left)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Necturna (Necturna) [F] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: 44 | 83
En: 61 | 43
Spe: 70 | 50
Stats: -10 Eva. | None
Other: None | None
Team: None

http://cap.smogon.com/Sprites/frontnormal-mfidgit.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.png
Fidgit (Dethl) [M] | Tangrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: 39 | 110
En: 55 | 46
Spe: 105 | 50 (100)
Stats: None | *2 Spe (Chloro.)
Other: Lock'd Onto | None
Team: None

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

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Round 3 Starts!

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Kicked off the internet for now. Necturna's being a little hax machine. Tangrowth accidentally killed Fidgit and Regirock accidentally killed Necturna.

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Round 3 Ends!

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Post-Round Information:
The Sun is Shining Brightly... (1 Round Left)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Necturna (Necturna) [F] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: -1 (KO'd) | 73
En: 37 | 23
Spe: 70 | 50
Stats: -10 Eva. | None
Other: KO'd! | None
Team: None

http://cap.smogon.com/Sprites/frontnormal-mfidgit.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.png
Fidgit (Dethl) [M] | Tangrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: -23 (KO'd) | 92
En: 35 | 28
Spe: 105 | 50 (100)
Stats: None | *2 Spe (Chloro.)
Other: KO'd! | None
Team: Tailwind (8a)

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

Calculations


Base Stats and Abilities


Frosty Sends Out, then Specifies Item
Kaxtar Sends Out, Specifies Item, then Orders
Frosty Orders
I Ref

Frosty Sep 8th, 2012 4:38:24 AM

sending out Rotom with WashWasher, turning it into Rotom-W.

Poltergeist the Rotom-W


No training items as i dont have any.

Frosty Sep 12th, 2012 7:19:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kaxtar
36 hour DQ, fairly strict

<_<

>_>

<_<

>_>

24 Hours Warning, Kaxtar. Please post and win this battle or I'll have to ask for your DQ.

Kaxtar Sep 12th, 2012 4:06:43 PM

Sorry, never saw this get posted.

Gliscor@ Razor Fang (adds 1 rank to attack btw, as well as BAP boosts), go!

Gliscor: Unown D Drill Run Rotom~Dig Rotom~Thunderfang Rotom
Regirock: Unown M Magnitude Rotom~Dig Rotom~Stone Edge Rotom

IF Evasive/Protective, THEN Chill and push actions down.

Frosty Sep 12th, 2012 4:38:24 PM

wasn't this a training items match?

Nudeln/Tangrowth: Unown D Dark Void - Chill - Stun Spore (Gliscor)
Poltergeist/Rotom: Unown M Minimize - Will-o-Wisp (Gliscor) - Reflect

Also remember chlorophyll, k?

SimonSays Sep 14th, 2012 8:45:14 AM

Kaxtar, it was indeed specified to be Items = Training. If you feel you need to re-order, please say as much.

Kaxtar Sep 14th, 2012 5:01:32 PM

Nope, just ignore the LO. sorry about that

SimonSays Sep 14th, 2012 8:24:20 PM

Okay, now next point of business;

Frosty, Tangrowth is Sluggish and can't use Dark Void. Please Reorders.

Frosty Sep 14th, 2012 8:41:34 PM

No it is not. My last action was Hidden Power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat dat
Moves that make Pokemon sluggish only make them sluggish for the next action, which does include the action after the cooldown period if used in a combination.

Blast Burn was used on Round 2 and this is Round 4. It shouldn't get sluggish for so long. Unless I missed yet another memo.

SimonSays Sep 17th, 2012 5:59:59 AM

Pre-Round Information:
The Sun is Shining Brightly... (1 Round Left)
http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/472.gifhttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Gliscor (Glisicor) [M] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: 100 | 73
En: 100 | 23
Spe: 95 | 50
Stats: None | None
Other: None | None
Team: None

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...e/479-wash.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.png
Rotom-W (Poltergeist) [U] | Tangrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: 90 | 92
En: 100 | 28
Spe: 86 (172) | 50 (200)
Stats: None | *2 Spe (Chloro.)
Other: None | None
Team: Tailwind (8a)

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

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Round 4 Starts!

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You're right, I'm an idiot. This is why I shouldn't try ref while tired.

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Round 4 Ends!

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Post-Round Information:
http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/472.gifhttp://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/b..._front/377.gif
Gliscor (Gliscor) [M] | Regirock (Regirock) [U]
HP: 96 | 73
En: 95 | 17
Spe: 95 | 50
Stats: None | None
Other: Burned, Para. (20%) | None
Team: None

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...e/479-wash.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/465.png
Rotom-W (Poltergeist) [U] | Tangrowth (Nudeln) [F]
HP: 77 | 92
En: 76 | 24
Spe: 86 (172) | 50 (200)
Stats: +1 Evasion | *2 Spe (Chloro.)
Other: Minimized | None
Team: Tailwind (5a)

Unown Available:
A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

Calculations


Base Stats and Abilities


Frosty Orders
Kaxtar Orders
I Ref


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