RU Research Week #12 - Stoutland, Misdreavus, Swanna, Basculin
Some rules and stuff stolen from Honko :toast:
Keep the following things in mind during every Research Group:
The Research Group Challenge:
In order to participate you must do the following:
This Week's Research Pokemon:
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Lastly, remember that these are not the only sets you can test during research week! Feel free to be even more creative than the challenges, and in general just discuss the pokemon!
Because lazy to make another alt, using GOML PS
I'm definitely interested in testing out Basculin and Stoutland :d
Starting with Basculin first as Super Rod
Doing Stout for an analysis, so imma test that
I'll do dis.
Stoutland please. #Stores
I'll try this, lets go Stoutland. Alt. guinness xtra.
I've already been using Swanna, so I might as well be in but I'm not laddering, just trying Swanna out.
More people should join in on Research Week! The chosen Pokemon are actually really good and have lots of potential in the metagame. I know that me and many fellow RU players have discovered some great, viable threats from Research Week such as Swellow, Cacturne, and Seismitoad. This week though I think that the biggest new threat would have to be Basculin.
Basculin's best aspect, in my opinion, would have to be its Speed. It has base 98 Speed, which means that it can outspeed Sigilyph and everything below! It's base 92 Attack is only average, but Adaptability somewhat makes up for it imo. Waterfall hits a lot of things pretty hard, and Aqua Jet is one of the best priority moves in the metagame right now. Here's the set I've been using:
Basculin (M) @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
- Aqua Jet
Waterfall is self-explanatory; it is Basculin's strongest move and hits things like Moltres and Nidoqueen super effectively. Aqua Jet is great for facing faster foes and picking of weakened opponents such as Unburden Hitmonlee, Archeops, and Aerodactyl. Crunch is really effective not only because it hits Psychic-types such as Slowking (it 2HKOes after Stealth Rock), but also because most people don't know that Basculin outspeeds Sigilyph so you can get a surprise KO on it xD. I use Superpower to handle Ferroseed, Normal-types such as Clefable, and Kabutops, but you can also use Ice Beam with a neutral SpA nature for Tangrowth. Overall, I think that Basculin is a really good Pokemon and more people should use it!
Testing Misdreavous and Basculin
Damn. Pocked ninja'd everyone. Ladder Score is out of hand.
YERE, success with Basculin.
Basculin @ Choice Band
EVs: 8 HP / 252 Atk / 248 Spe
~ Aqua Jet
I initially started with this set - I figured that with Adaptability providing it a stronger Waterfall than Kabutops, then I can simply spam CB boosted Waterfalls or Aqua Jets on my Rain team. This was not the case, however - it still gets walled hard by Water resists. Banded Waterfall was powerful, but not powerful enough. I had SD Kabutops, too, and it sucked that Tangrowth would simply render both of these mons useless.
After talking to DittoCrow and hearing his praise of his LO Basculin, I decided to give it a spin, with a bit of a tweak to better serve my team.
Basculin @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk / 8 SpA / 248 Spe
Naive Nature (+Spe, -SpD)
~ Aqua Jet
~ Ice Beam
LO Mixed Basculin definitely worked better. Although the brute force of its Rain-boosted Adapt Waterfall has been reduced, the flexibility in switching moves has proven far more useful. Being able to switch from Waterfall to Aqua Jet to finish off a fast prey after a kill is really pimpin. With this set, breaking walls has been much easier, as Basculin can now lure and 2HKO Tangrowth with Ice Beam, paving a path for SD Kabutops. The combination of Adaptability's immediate raw power combined with its deceptively fast 98 base Speed have made Basculin one mighty beast.
It does have its flaws, though. Unlike Kabutops and Feraligatr, its paltry bulk limits its switch-in opportunities. Even more vexing for me, was the inability to boost its Atk - sure its hitting slightly harder than Adamant Kabutops with Adaptability, but that's not enough in many cases. In this respect, Crawdaunt beats Basculin as an Adaptability Water-type. It's a shame that Basculin is forced to go Jolly to outrun Sigilyph, because Adamant's extra Atk boost would be very much welcome.
Note that I didn't go Max Speed, since I only wanted to outspeed Sigilyph.
Awesome posts Pocket and DittoCrow!
What about Swanna and the other RW mons? Has anyone had any success using them?
Really nice set Pocket!.
Find it awesome how well you laddered with him.
Makes me want to try RU now =), going to to try and put a team together, hopefully can participate in future research weeks.
Look forward to seeing what other sets people come up with.
Ok, I'll bite. In. I'll test Swanna.
Alright, I switched from Stout to Swanna, but didn't get any ladder achievements ^^
Swanna @ Life Orb
EVs: 8 Atk / 252 SpA / 248 Spe
- Brave Bird
Swanna has a unique niche in RU with a base 98 Speed, which is tied with Basculin and nearly outspeeds Sigilyph by one base point. This set is best used on a Rain Dance where there is an extended period of rain. Hurricane has perfect accuracy in the rain, and Surf is stronger in the rain. Brave Bird serves an another STAB option against opponents that has a higher Special Defense than Defense like Croygonal. Roost serves to heal off Life Orb and Stealth Rock damage. With Hydration, Swanna can come in on a Status move, so it can almost switch into Grass-type with impunity, as Sleep Powder is neutralized in Rain.
The EVs are to outspeed Sigilyph, and the rest goes into Attack.
Also, on a weather-less team Swanna is a good offensive check to Moltres, as it outspeeds it and KOs it with Surf.
On Rain teams, they have a general hard time with Grass-types, and Swanna decimates them with Brave Bird or Hurricane. Also, as Swanna can switch directly into Grass-type, fearing almost nothing. For example, it can come in on Tangrowth's Sleep powder and ko with Hurricane.
Lanturn is the best counter in existence to Swanna, as Surf and Flying-type attacks don't even touch it, and it can fry it with its Electric-type STAB. Also, its balanced defenses doesn't allow Swanna to hit a weaker defense.
I have some stuf' for Missy ^.^
Misdreavus @ Evolite
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Fighting
Misdreavus is an excellent Pokemon, especially because it can block Rapid Spin thanks to its Ghost typing. This set is cool as many people expect Misdreavus to just burn and fire off weak attacks, well no more!
With Calm Mind, Misdreavus turns into a floating castle, as it nothing will touch it. The EVs ensure that she can take hits from the physical side, and Calm Mind makes up for the special side. Substitute is there to prevent status, namely Toxic. Shadow Ball + Hidden Power Fighting makes a nearly unresisted combination.
I find that this set doesn't last as long as the others, because of the lack of recovery. For this reason, Clefable is the best partner. Clefable can past Wishes to Misdreavus and can use Heal Bell to cure any unwanted status afflications. To make it even sweeter, Misdreavus can switch into the Fighting-type attacks aimed at Clefable, and Clefable can take the Ghost-type attacks aimed at Misdreavus.
Also, this set has trouble with Dark-type as they aren't hit hard, namely Drapion and Spiritomb, not Absol, as Absol can be taken out with Hidden Power Fighting if Misdreavus is behind a Substitute. To take care of Dark-types I like Poliwrath, as it is bulky and phaze.
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