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Texas Cloverleaf Dec 4th, 2012 12:39:17 PM

Frosty and Emma
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elevator Music (Post 4480250)
Posting 2 open challenges:

1) 4v4 FE singles

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Frosty (Post 4480545)
Arena: Pokemon Stadium
Subs: 3
Items: OK
Switch: OK
2 Recovery/5 Chill
Abilities: All
DQ: 3 Days

Everything else standard.

Pokemon Stadium


Frosty chose the Arena so he sends out first apparently

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Frosty
Thanks for reffing this!

Dethl the Fidgit


Bellum the Rotom


Diababa the Necturna


Thor the Cyclohm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elevator Music
Kyukon (Ninetales)
PorigonZ (Porygon-Z)
Yadokingu (Slowking)
Meganiumu (Megainum)

Frosty
Emma
Frosty
Me

Frosty Dec 4th, 2012 4:04:07 PM

I haven't used you in a while, so let's roll!

Dethl the Fidgit with Light Clay

Elevator Music Dec 6th, 2012 9:17:31 PM

Sorry for the wait. I'll lead with Slowking, who will take an Exp. Share.

Scald ~ Psychic ~ Scald

Frosty Dec 7th, 2012 6:12:56 PM

Light Screen - Toxic Spikes - Tailwind

Texas Cloverleaf Dec 11th, 2012 1:52:30 PM

n.b. for the purposes of arena effects, im going to allow you guys to use flavour movement to different parts of the arena once per round

We start off in the normal stage of Pokemon Stadium!

Frosty
Fidgit
HP: 100
EN: 100
Status: None

Elevator Music
Slowking
HP: 100
EN: 100
Status: None

Calculations


Fidgit sets the stage for the next round as Slowking layeth the beateth down. More flavour to come another time.

Frosty
Fidgit
HP: 54
EN: 76
Status: Burned
Field: Light Screen (6a), Tailwind (9a)

Elevator Music
Slowking
HP: 100
EN: 84
Status: None
Field: Toxic Spikes (1)

RNG=7

Ground Stadium!

Frosty
Emma
Me

Frosty Dec 11th, 2012 4:05:08 PM

I bet you saw this coming from a mile.

Switch Phase Initiated!
Fidgit OUT
Necturna w/rare candy IN
Counterswitch?

Elevator Music Dec 12th, 2012 5:47:25 AM

Fidgit has Light Clay, so Light Screen should last an extra 3a. Also, Necturna should have 100 HP.

Ninetales, let's go! Take an Exp. Share.

Will-O-Wisp ~ Flamethrower ~ Fire Blast
IF (a protective/evasive move is used) THEN (use Foul Play and push actions back)
IF (Skill Swap is used) THEN (use Foul Play that action and all future actions)

Frosty Dec 14th, 2012 5:04:54 PM

The Light Screen should buy us some time, so:

Stone Edge - Toxic Spikes - Stone Edge

Texas Cloverleaf Dec 21st, 2012 2:23:53 PM

Ground Stadium!

Frosty
Necturna @ Rare Candy (+1 Atk/SpDef)
HP: 100
EN: 100
Status: None
Field: Light Screen (6a), Tailwind (9a)

Elevator Music
Ninetales @ Exp. Share
HP: 100
EN: 100
Status: None
Field: Toxic Spikes (1)

Bench


Calculations


I imagine you just want it up at this point

Frosty
Necturna @ Rare Candy (+1 Atk/SpDef)
HP: 71
EN: 79
Status: Burned (2 DPA)
Field: Light Screen (3a), Tailwind (6a)

Elevator Music
Ninetales @ Exp. Share
HP: 56
EN: 71
Status: Poisoned (2 DPA)
Field: Toxic Spikes (2)

Weather: Permanent Sun

Bench


EM
Frosty
Me

Arena: 7=Ice Arena

Frosty Dec 21st, 2012 2:33:22 PM

Switch Phase Initiated!
Necturna OUT
Cyclohm (w/ Magnet) IN
Counterswitch?

Elevator Music Dec 21st, 2012 2:37:42 PM

Decline to counterswitch.

Frosty Dec 21st, 2012 2:46:06 PM

Thunderbolt - Discharge - Surf
IF Pain Split AND Cyclohm doesn't have a sub up AND Substitute isn't Imprisioned THEN 15hp Substitute and push back
IF Pain Split at any action AND Imprison is ordered in any action AND Roar isn't ordered in any action THEN 25hp Substitute a1 and push back
IF Bide THEN Rain Dance - Thunder Wave - Thunder

Elevator Music Dec 21st, 2012 3:16:08 PM

Rest ~ Sleep Talk (Pain Split|Flame Charge|Toxic|Roar) ~ Sleep Talk (Pain Split|Flame Charge|Toxic|Roar)

ZhengTann Dec 27th, 2012 9:13:09 PM

Placeholder saying your friendly neighbourhood Nargacuga is here frosting the jukebox in the elevator - I mean subreffing the match.

EDIT: Done. Ninetales is sleeping with her eyes wide open, so tell me if this isn't possible. Also, did you just initiated Switch Phase twice in a row, Frosty? Everybody reorder. Frosty you can't initiate Switch Phase twice in a row, according to Switch Methods, and therefore must issue actions. I'm still putting my bench here for future reference.

Bench


Frosty’s team:
OOOA
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/rare-candy.png
HP: 71
En: 79
Spe: 70 (-)
Ranks: 5{6}/4/4/5{6}
Status: BRN
Stats: N/A
Other: Light Screen 3a, Tailwind 6a

Elevator Music's team: AOOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...k-white/38.png http://veekun.com/dex/media/items/exp-share.png
HP: 56
En: 71
Spe: 115 (+15%)
Ranks: 2/3/3/4
Status: PSN
Stats: N/A
Other: Toxic Spikes 2

Arena : Pokemon Stadium Ice Arena (Ground) [Drought]


Frosty Dec 30th, 2012 5:03:36 PM

I think that rule was miswritten. Or else Initiating a switch would mean being stuck in a tough spot for 2 rounds <_<;.

I asked on IRC and got this:

<Caffie> Also, question: I heard that the same player can't initiate a switch phase twice in a row, even if said player is the first to move. why is that?
<dogfish44> that sounds wrong to me?
<Objection> i always thought that that wasn't so much a rule as a natural consequence of how the switching system worked
<dogfish44> You can initiate a switch phrase if you are ordering first
<Objection> except actually it's not a natural consequence of how the switching system works
<Caffie> it is on the Referee Resource Thread <_<
<dogfish44> if you switch, AND your opponent doesn't, then you can't initiate another switch phrase
<dogfish44> until the next round
<Caffie> in my match the opponent switched and I started another switch phase. The ref called the rule from referee resource and I have to reorder.
<dogfish44> link?
<Caffie> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3475647
<dogfish44> that rule itself is a load of malarkey then 9.9 (Note from translator: malarkey = nonsense)
<IAR> just like confusion always lasting one action less than advertised... >.<
<Objection> then go with a rule set in which confusion duration is not one action less than advertised
<dogfish44> Looking at that rule, it should probably say "cannot switch multiple times within the same round", to clarify you can't go "Switching to X" --> "I don't conterswitch, your orders" --> "Fine, Switching to Y" --> "WTF how is that legal"
<Caffie> load of malarkey as in "we need to change that eventually" or as in "disregard it"?
<Objection> probably both caffie
<dogfish44> ^
<dogfish44> although simply removing it would be better
<dogfish44> Deck_Knight, are you here by any chance?


Any chance you continue to ref with the switch?

ZhengTann Dec 30th, 2012 10:19:18 PM

Well, with that log, it seems that the next proposal I'm gonna draft to the Council is: Lookover The Whole Reff Thread OP. Also if you want to change orders, EMma (Hypnosis DAT description mandates eye contact, which probably makes it unusable via Sleep Talk) you have a minimum 24 hours.

EDIT: Done without flavour. I think I've bitten off more than I chew here, reffing 5 matches at a time when it's my exams month, so forgive my lapse of creativity.

Bench

Frosty’s team: OOOA
http://cap.smogon.com/Sprites/frontnormal-mcyclohm.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/magnet.png
HP: 110
En: 100
Spe: 69 (-)
Ranks: 2/4/5/3
Status: N/A
Stats: N/A
Other: Light Screen 3a, Tailwind 6a

Elevator Music's team: AOOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...k-white/38.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/exp-share.png
HP: 56
En: 71
Spe: 115 (+15%)
Ranks: 2/3/3/4
Status: PSN
Stats: N/A
Other:Toxic Spikes 2

Arena : Pokemon Stadium Ice Arena (Ground) [Drought]

Calcs


Frosty’s team: OOAS
http://cap.smogon.com/Sprites/frontnormal-mcyclohm.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/magnet.png|http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/rare-candy.png
HP: 85 | HP: 71
En: 82 | En: 79
Spe: 69 (-) | Spe: 70 (-)
Ranks: 2/4/ 5/3 | Ranks: 5{6}/4/4/5{6}
Status: N/A | Status: BRN
Stats: N/A | Stats: N/A
Other: Tailwind 3a | Other: Tailwind 3a

Elevator Music's team: AOOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...k-white/38.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/exp-share.png
HP: 48
En: 6
Spe: 115 (+15%)
Ranks: 2/3/3/4
Status: PSN
Stats: N/A
Other: Toxic Spikes 2

Arena : Pokemon Stadium Water Arena (Ice, Ground) [Drought]



EMma decides Switch Phase
Frosty responds either way
I reff

Elevator Music Jan 1st, 2013 1:07:30 PM

Chill ~ Fire Blast ~ Chill
IF (Skill Swap is used) THEN (use Foul Play when you would use Fire Blast)
IF (Snatch is used) THEN (use Ominous Wind and push actions back)

Frosty Jan 1st, 2013 2:00:04 PM

if that is the case

Snatch - Snatch - Chill

ZhengTann Jan 2nd, 2013 6:54:15 AM

I forgot to calculate Poison damage to Ninetales last round, and it is just fixed. Sorry about that. Doubly sorry EMma. Also, assuming EMma didn't make that sub, how exactly do you Snatch a universal command? I'm very curious...

Bench

Frosty’s team: OOAO
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/rare-candy.png
HP: 71
En: 79
Spe: 70 (-)
Ranks: 5{6}/4/4/5{6}
Status: BRN
Stats: N/A
Other: Tailwind 3a

Elevator Music's team: AOOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...k-white/38.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/exp-share.png
HP: 48
En: 6
Spe: 115 (+15%)
Ranks: 2/3/3/4
Status: PSN
Stats: N/A
Other: Toxic Spikes 2

Arena : Pokemon Stadium Water Arena (Ice, Ground) [Drought]

Calcs


Frosty’s team: OOAO
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._FrontNorm.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/rare-candy.png
HP: 56
En: 67
Spe: 70 (-)
Ranks: 5{6}/4/4/5{6}
Status: BRN
Stats: N/A
Other: Tailwind 1a

Elevator Music's team: XOOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...k-white/38.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/exp-share.png
HP: 46
En: KO
Spe: 115 (+15%)
Ranks: 2/3/3/4
Status: PSN
Stats: N/A
Other: Toxic Spikes 2

Arena : Pokemon Stadium Grass Arena (Water, Ice, Ground) [Drought]



EMma sends in replacement
Frosty decides Switch Phase
EMma responds as is
I reff

Elevator Music Jan 2nd, 2013 8:23:34 AM

Rest would have removed Poison, and Chills can be Snatched, but neither is really important.

Anyways, I'll send out Porygon-Z who will take an Amulet Coin.

Frosty Jan 2nd, 2013 6:36:37 PM

Switch Phase Initiated!
Necturna OUT
Rotom-C with Miracle Seed IN
Counterswitch?


Bellum the Rotom-C for reference

Elevator Music Jan 2nd, 2013 6:50:28 PM

Decline to counterswitch.

Frosty Jan 4th, 2013 6:52:45 PM

Light Screen - Hidden Power - Hidden Power
IF Protective/Evasive AND Rotom is ordered to Hidden Power THEN Chill and push back
IF Double Team clones are up when Rotom attacks A2 or A3 THEN Discharge and push back
IF Conversion 2 is used A2 (for whatever reason <_<) THEN Thunderbolt A3

Elevator Music Jan 4th, 2013 7:00:40 PM

Conversion (Fire/Bug/Steel/Grass) ~ Hidden Power ~ Hidden Power
IF (Bug is selected from Conversion) THEN (use Signal Beam a2 and a3)

ZhengTann Jan 5th, 2013 9:07:43 AM

Because Porygon-Z was poisoned before Conversion to Steel, it still takes toxic damage, right?

Bench


Frosty’s team: OAOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...te/479-mow.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/miracle-seed.png
HP: 90
En: 100
Spe: 86
Ranks: 2/4/5/4
Status: N/A
Stats: N/A
Other: Tailwind 1a

Elevator Music's team: XAOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/474.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/exp-share.png
HP: 100
En: 100
Spe: 90
Ranks: 2/3/6/3
Status: N/A
Stats: N/A
Other: Toxic Spikes 2

Arena : Pokemon Stadium Grass Arena (Water, Ice, Ground) [Drought]

Calcs


Frosty’s team: OAOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...te/479-mow.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/miracle-seed.png
HP: 59
En: 82
Spe: 86
Ranks: 2/4/5/4
Status: N/A
Stats: N/A
Other: Light Screen 3a

Elevator Music's team: XAOO
http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/...-white/474.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/exp-share.png
HP: 70
En: 80
Spe: 90
Ranks: 2/3/6/3
Status: BPSN
Stats: +1 SpAtk
Other: Toxic Spikes 2

Arena : Pokemon Stadium Flying Arena (Grass, Water, Ice, Ground) [Drought]



EMma decides Switch Phase
Frosty responds either way
I reff


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