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Cresselia [WIP]
OK so this is my first contribution to this section but I've always found I'm fairly good at knowing things about pokemon and their various sets. But I'll probably screw up somewhere so bear with me =) ROUGH DRAFT!!!!! PLEASE GIVE ME TIME TO FINISH BEFORE RATING. SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE [Overview] Base Stats (BOLD= notable stats) HP: 120 Atk: 70 Def: 120 SpA: 75 SpD: 130 Spe: 85
[Other Options] A Choice Specs set is viable on Cresselia for the surprise value of it but you are better off running a Calm Mind set if you want something to this effect. With Max SpA and HP investment Cresselia manages to grab some unexpected OHKO's with Specs attached so I suppose it could be used, but really? Why would you want to? Just do that with Mew! A Blaze Orb Psycoshift set is also viable but the lack of recovery from leftovers makes it rather difficult to use. But it could be used as a form of 90% accurate Will-o-Wisp, I guess....... but again you ask the simple why? Cresselia can use Sunny Day or Rain Dance to support your sun or rain team respectively, or to merely get rid of other players rain, sun, hail, or the rare sand. [Checks and Counters] Heracross and Chandelure. Plain and simple. These two out-speed Cresselia with ease and, other than calm mind variants, can OHKO or 2HKO without being KO'ed back. Bisharp is a great counter for Cresselia that don't carry Thunder Wave or HP(Fighting) and can boost up on it before killing it with sucker punch or even pursuit (It gets that right?). Toxic users also ruin Cresselia's day because they cause its normal strategy of staying in for multiple turns to become completely ineffectual. Cresselia is actually the reason why I carry Toxic on all of my teams. It stops it dead in its tracks, other than duel screen Lunar Dance sets. But what this all really boils down to is that the best way to counter Cresselia is to figure out what kind of set it is running. Each of its different sets have easy counters for them but these counters may fare badly against a different set. Its kinda like Mew, but a lot more harmless. The best Check for Cresselia I have found to date is Specially Defensive Roserade. It can tank any of its status moves with Natural Cure, set up spikes on it, use Toxic, put it to sleep, and Giga Drain restores a great amount of Hp due to Cresselia's huge bulk. Even a Calm Mind set at +1 fails to OHKO you with Psychic or Psyshock with the right investment before you hit hard back with sleep powder or Toxic. |
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Yes sir. I'll get right on that. I'm sorry but the way to set that up wasn't very clear in the Rules & Guidlines portion. Could you possibly give me a example to work off of. I'm better and learning through showing than reading anyways =) Please and thank you.
EDIT: Nevermind I've got it figured out I'm pretty sure. Edit Again: OK I think that's right..... |
Be sure to mention that hail really nerfs Moonlight, so consider pairing Cresselia up with Pokemon that use Sunny Day (or Rain Dance if only to remove the hail, as cress benefits from Sunny Day)
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I think you might need a bit more experience before you start writing analyses.
The first set I guess isn't terrible... You don't specify what move the second spread beats Heracross with. Since the Psychic attacks affect different stats and have different base power this is important! You also can't put two EV spreads on the same set. You put zero discussion into what the different coverage moves do, or why you would ever use any of them. The Dual Screen set is a bit messy too. Your description basically consists of "yay screens" "maybe don't run one of them if you want more moves". You're going to need to add a lot more than that. No discussion on the advantages of the other moves, or team support needed. No discussion of potentially running Speed to outrun a particular Taunting wall or anything. The Grab Bag set is a mess. You literally just looked up every move Cresselia can learn that might be vaguely useful and put it on a set. People go to Smogon to find out the best sets a Pokemon can run, not every single set. As for other options, Choice Specs and Calm Mind play completely differently, I don't see how they're at all comparable. The writing style is quite informal, and I really doubt you actually looked up what "KOs" the Specs set can use. You really do allude to the biggest problem with Cresselia: "Why not use Mew?" (Or Uxie, who has a better support movepool). Your counters section needs a lot of work. Heracross is a start, though it is weak to Psychic. You suggest that the best counter for Cresselia is something that takes super-effective damage from its STAB attack. A zero investment Psyshock is a guaranteed 2HKO on 252 / 120 / 136 Roserade. Meanwhile, once you determine there's no threat of status, any number of Dark types can come in for free. Bronzong can usually set up whatever it wants all over Cresselia, but he gets no mention. Sableye is also going to create a lot of problems, being able to priority Sub on any unboosted special attack and Taunt you to stop you from doing anything. Finally, saying "it gets that, right?" when it would have taken you maybe 4 seconds of work to find that out just illustrates the little work you've put into this... |
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Sorry about all of this I was a bit rushed for time and I am going to edit it later. The full descriptions are in the "Hide" tags and were there for my original post. I will fix all of these problems as soon as possible. I just put this up as a rough draft of sorts. I will go back through and fix everything soon. Thank you for your patience! I really thought I had a day to myself to do this but things have come up that I need to attend too and this is all I had at the time that said things came up. I am going to edit it! Need not worry! |
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