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Marriland's Wedlocke Challenge!
Okay, so I don't know how many of you follow Marriland on YouTube, but he does some pretty cool stuff.
Anyway, he has a new video series on YouTube that is a Nuzlocke-variant. It is called a Wedlocke. Here are the rules: RULE #1: FAINTED POKEMON ARE DEAD :( When a Pokemon faints, it must be released forever (or boxed permanently). It is considered to be dead. RULE #2: ONLY CATCH THE 1ST ELIGIBLE POKEMON IN AN AREA You can catch or obtain only the first eligible obtainable Pokemon you encounter in any route or area, with exceptions being made based on the Pokemon's gender. Fail to catch it and you get nothing for the area. • Genderless Pokemon cannot be caught. Ever. • If you have 1, 3, or 5 Pokemon in your party, you ignore any Pokemon encounters whose gender you have an uneven number of, e.g. if you have just one male Pokemon and two female Pokemon, you cannot catch any more female Pokemon until the count is even again. If you have an even number of each gender, this does not apply. • "Dupes Clause" is recommended, to add to the uniqueness of each Pokemon. This means you do not count any encounter against any Pokemon whose species you have already caught, which is usually determined by the Poke Ball symbol by their HP bar. RULE #3: ALL POKEMON MUST BE NICKNAMED This is to increase the bond between you and your Pokemon. They're not just randoms; they're your friends. Treat them accordingly. RULE #4: YOUR POKEMON ARE "PARTNERED" WITH EACH OTHER AND FIGHT IN PAIRS • Only one male and one female can form a pair, and once they do, it lasts until one dies or is released. • Each Pokemon on your team can battle only alongside its partner, if it has one. Switching Pokemon out in battle is allowed, but ONLY for the Pokemon's partner. • If a Pokemon dies in battle, its partner must avenge the fallen Pokemon or die along with them; switching to any other Pokemon is forbidden, regardless of circumstance. (In the case of Double or Triple Battles, you may have to make exceptions. Do what feels right.) • If a Pokemon's partner dies, it can gain a new one that doesn't already have a partner (either from a PC box or a wild Pokemon). RULE #5: YOU CANNOT DEPOSIT POKEMON TO YOUR PC • You must release Pokemon or have them die in battle if you want to withdraw anything in your PC. • You can freely release your Pokemon (up to you if it counts as a "death" or not), but you will probably feel like a jerk for doing it. • If you absolutely require HM moves to get through the game, you may temporarily break this rule and deposit a pair of Pokemon in the PC for one or two HM Pokemon; however, they cannot fight or do anything other than use HM moves outside of battle, and should be removed as soon as one of your main Pokemon can use the required HM move. Here's the link to his rules video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMZqw...gzm_A&index=12 And here's the link to his playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...zEme2am_G2LRf8 I hope this is a hit for everyone, and I will be posting on this with my Wedlockes too! I have already started and failed a White Wedlocke, and am currently in the middle of a SoulSilver Wedlocke. They're really fun! |
I was going to make this thread, but I wasn't sure if Smogon would appreciate it! :P
Anyway, I am currently actually doing a wedlocke of white 2! I'm already pretty far through it though, so I won't suddenly start updates now. I have to say though, they are really fun - far more fun than regular nuzlockes!!! :D Thanks for making this thread, I really do appreciate you doing it and not I, since you did loads of writing as well. I was just going to link the video :P |
This sounds awesome! May have to fire up an Emerald play through of this.
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No one is interested at all except for two people! Come on!!!
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I'll watch!
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Also Skyla killed half of my pokemon in my white 2 wedlocke, but to be honest I was kinda expecting it. I had sunflora (she survived a long time!) and Emboar in a pair. I had a Karrablast and Swanna in a pair and then I had a Korokorok (don't expect me to spell it right) and Galvantula in a pair. I went with Galvantula and Korokorok but Galvantula died to Swoobat after some nasty Attract work (If swoobat didn't kill Galvantula then Korokorok probably would. Don't fall for another pokemon when your partner is watching you! :P) And then while Korokorok did get rid of Swoobat he couldn't even hit Skarmory neutrally due to typing (dig, crunch, shadow claw and return) so he died as well. Then I sent out Emboar forgetting about Swanna, he took down Skarmory with ease, but I couldn't switch into Sunflora because she could have used air slash on Emboar, and Sunflora is so slow that if he did use bubblebeam then he would literally just be fodder! I just braced myself for the worst and used heat crash. I was surprised at how much it did but Swanna used air slash and killed Emboar. I had to send out Sunflora who's quick claw activated! Come on grasswhistle! ...Miss. So Sunflora died to another air slash. My Swanna then had to come in and my Swanna, with her plus speed, minus attacking nature, managed to outspeed he Swanna! This means that 2 air slashes later we beat her, but at a large expense... Anyway, I think that's along the lines of what you were hoping people would write on this thread, right? It is a true story though! |
Since I heard about this from Marriland, I've actually been trying it out on my Ruby version (since that's the only one with genders I both know fairly well and am willing to restart), and it is pretty interesting. But man, does it get brutal sometimes. Only having two Pokemon to switch between often means that partners will have some kind of weakness they share, especially since they're likely going to be from nearby areas. If you get two Pokemon that compliment each other well, it can be pretty awesome. But if you get a pair where one of the partners can't fight, it's a bad situation. That situation worsens when the helpless Pokemon's partner isn't very strong, either. But it is pretty exciting to see partners trying to work together to accomplish something.
I guess I can offer a bit of a progress report. Like I said, I'm doing this on Ruby. So far, I have six badges and am in Lilycove City. However, I have also suffered nine deaths so far. (I'm clearly not very good at Nuzlockes. :P ) Please note that I do break Dupes Clause for Pokemon I want to catch again, but if I fail, I get nothing there. Also, the ones that are animated are Pokemon that have proven themselves to be awesome.
CURRENT TEAM
BOYS BACK IN TOWN
GIRLS WANTING TO HAVE FUN
THE FALLEN
FORBIDDEN: Things I caught just because
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This actually sounds quite fun and more fun than a nuzlocke due to the added rules. I'll watch them if time allows to.
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Hey everyone, I don't know how regularly this thread is posted in anymore... But thanks, Espeon, for both uploading the Wedlocke rules and also persuading me to start my own Wedlocke Challenge...
I'm gonna try it, first time ever, on Pokemon Emerald. Should be Enlightening to say the least, considering i've never done anything like this before. :D |
Oh yeah, I'm gonna do one of these on pokemon black, I may as well post something along the lines of updates here.
I'm also 100%ing SMG right now though, so the updates'll be pretty far apart right now. |
Oh, out of interest and curiosity, what are the rules on switch training? Freely between members of a pair?
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Well you can only switch between 2 pokemon in a pair, so you can switch train using just the pokemon you are training's partner. Basically if you have two pairs, say a sentret and a chikorita in one pair, and a geodude and bellsprout in another pair, and sentret is in battle, you can switch to chikorita but not geodude or bellsprout. The same applies to switch training.
However, you can use the exp. share on any pokemon no matter if it's partner is used in the battle or not. |
Thanks very much, I will bear that in mind. :)
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who says genderless pokemon can't find love? :C i think marriland said you could have gay/lesbian pokemon in the description of his rules video, so it makes just as much sense... |
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This is now the best Nuzlocke variation. |
You know, I think I'll give this a try just for something new.
Basic Nuzlockes are friggin' pointless to me now that I've learned exactly how to prevent my Pokemon from dying in them (I actually did a Blue Nuzlocke where I had NO deaths, at all). Scrambles are great but even those get tiring after the 6th one. This is something totally new and the pairing mechanic makes my tactics to keep Pokemon alive much harder to pull off, upping the difficulty. I think I'll do it on a Gold ROM (Would use my cartridge if I knew where the hell it went). I'll probably keep you guys posted on the developments once I start (which might not be immediately). |
Bubbama (I think that's how you spell it) has his own series on youtube no pokecenter no pokemarts he already did it for yellow and crystal and is now trying it for sapphire
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This is real hardcore!!!
Anyways what happens if you have 2 males and one female and the female dies? Do you loose or what? |
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Genderless pokemon can't find love because...
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anyway, i fail to see why you can't. marriland's explanation for it not being allowed completely ignores the possibility of one being consistent; i.e if your pokemon was gay it will always be gay. either he just didn't think of this or is being an asshole. either way, he doesn't own the idea - rather, he just came up with it - and you don't have to prescribe to his rules. EDIT: what he said about them Q: WHY CAN THIS NOT BE A CHALLENGE FOR GAY/LESBIAN POKEMON? A: It's just due to how gender plays a role in the mechanics. This challenge is gender-based. It plays a role in how it works. By having it a part of the normal rules, it becomes extremely complicated to explain all of the exceptions. Instead, it is a variant. (so you just pick the same gender instead of opposite ones? what's the problem?) Q: WHAT IS THE GAY/LESBIAN WEDLOCKE VARIANT? A: If you play catching ONLY one gender, then play it with the whole pairing rules, play it with gender clause except IGNORING any opposite-gender Pokemon, but then USE POKEMON ONLY IN THE ORDER YOU CATCH THEM IN. If you catch Pokemon in your PC, you must pair them up as replacements in the order they are in your PC, so you are not able to choose who you are replacing as much. Why? Because that makes the challenge WAY easier and it goes against the restricting nature of the Wedlocke challenge. (why does it have to be a clambake/sausage fest if just one pokemon gets to be gay? you can flip a coin or something so it's not necessarily going to your advantage, lol. not that it necessarily would, as if a partner dies, you'll have to pick another, even if it's not as good as their potential opposite-sex partner. the order-you-catch thing works, too, but again, it doesn't mean you have to make them all the same lol) basically, i'm not trying to be a social justice freak, but it bothers me that stuff like that is just written off like that. |
But having gay pokemon kind of gets rid of the point anyway. While marriland does own the wedlocke, he also said that you can change rules around if you want.
Having gay pokemon simply is not good though. The point of it is having a male and female pokemon, and you can run out of one gender at some point making it harder since it is ends up a nuzlocke with no switching at all. If you want then sure, but really it seems to wreck it. |
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Okay, so let me just try to explain what Marriland means about no gay/lesbian pairs.
If you can use two of the same gender, then you can use the two best pokemon in your PC together if you need two more. BUT if you need them to be male + female, then you can probably only use one of them. If you're lucky enough to have two strong, opposite gender pokemon, then yay! But, chances are, you won't. So that's what he means. It just adds a little bit of challenge. |
Not to mention that adding in exceptions, setting new rules and all just makes an already pretty complicated challenge even MORE complicated, completely unnecessarily. It's simply a whole lot simpler to just ignore gay/lesbian pairings for the sake of the challenge, making it a lot more accessible. It's not being ignored because Marriland wants to pretend they don't exist in real life or whatever, it's because it just adds a whole lot of unnecessary complications he just didn't want to deal with... and also helps him avoid the temptation of making up rules as you go (the more complicated you make it, the more easy it becomes to find "loopholes". Take it from an experience scrambler).
In short it's almost certainly done as a convenience to the player. If you want to incorporate it somehow, then go ahead. |
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