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Caelum Mar 13th, 2009 8:28:11 PM

The Best of C&C
 
There are a lot of useful threads, applets, calculators etc posted in Contributions & Corrections. Unfortuantely, not all of these things are appropriate to be put on-site. So, rather than let them die and become for all practical purposes deleted I quickly gathered some of these and made a nice little index to keep track of these useful guides / applets that aren't appropriate for the site, but are still helpful to our users. Seemed to me there is no sense in these helpful resources falling out of public view when they could be helpful to our userbase.

I simply felt these resources were too useful to let die in the pages on C&C so here they are posted to draw attention (PS: This does not give you permission to bump them with posts like "cool app.")
If you know of anything cool / useful / helpful guides / apps / threads posted in C&C, but isn't appropriate to be put on-site, that I didn't include (likely I missed a few since I just skimmed through the pages), post the link here. I'll take a look at it and if I consider if useful enough I'll add it to index.

Great Sage Mar 13th, 2009 8:40:28 PM

This is pretty useful; it's the applet that reduces EV waste. Yes it's pretty simple math but hey.

chaos Mar 30th, 2009 3:20:28 PM

If these are so great, why aren't they articles and on the site?

Caelum Mar 30th, 2009 3:27:02 PM

Most of them are applets / calculators. Those can't really go "on-site" to my knowledge, the intent was to give a reference for those things which have been useful but can't really fit on the site or aren't "good enough" but are still useful and the intent was to make them available so someone wouldn't have to dig back 3 pages to find it.

chaos Mar 30th, 2009 3:36:15 PM

Except you link to stuff like BK's "Battle Tower" guide, which is already in HTML and ready to be put on the site if it isn't already.

Caelum Mar 30th, 2009 3:37:41 PM

For that specific case, considering BK is site staff I assumed there was a reason it wasn't put on site. However, it still looked fine to me and useful so I placed it here. If you want me to put it up I can do that.

eric the espeon Mar 30th, 2009 4:38:16 PM

You have probably thought of this before, and have a very good reason not to, but why not have a page on site with links to a page for each of these (with an explanation of how to use/screen shots/download link)?

Tangerine Mar 30th, 2009 5:43:11 PM

I can't see why we can't have a calculator/applet section on the site

Blue Kirby Apr 2nd, 2009 11:27:37 PM

The reason the Battling Tower guide was never put on site was because I had also added on existing data available and thrown together this, and I wasn't 100% sure that the site layout would allow for stretching at smaller resolutions at the time. That, and I also wanted to make the whole thing sortable like the Pokemon on the Dex are.

It all needs to be updated now if it's ever going to be put on-site though - I'll have to look at doing that at some point.

RBG May 6th, 2009 11:13:43 AM

Added Defense and Special Defense Tiers (includes ShoddyBattle plugin) by Dragontamer

Diesel Sep 6th, 2009 8:41:31 PM

This can replace How To Become Pro At Chaining. Thanks for adding that in the first place, by the way, you probably saved me a few exasperating PMs.

mingot Nov 2nd, 2009 12:50:51 PM

Diesels chaining guide and Blue Kirby's BT guide have both been placed on site, and removed from the list above.

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/chaining

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/bt/dp_bt_intro

Colonel M Sep 23rd, 2010 7:08:54 PM

Tangerine's 2HKO Calculator was taken down, so I removed it from the OP. For reference:

2HKO Probability calculator by Tangerine

Oglemi Jul 16th, 2011 3:27:51 AM

Hey all.

So I updated the much needed-to-be-updated OP with some of the cool stuff that popped up in Projects over the past few months. Since we currently don't have anywhere onsite to put them, and really nowhere to showcase all the hard work these people put into these projects, I've added them to the OP.

Hopefully everybody hasn't forgotten about this thread. There are some really cool stuff in the OP. You should definitely check it out!

Also, don't forget about our Projects forum. There are a bunch of old projects where the OPs have long since left that could use some updating. If you find a project you are interested on working on, let us know and we'll be sure to give you a chance to work on it!

Calm Pokemaster Oct 11th, 2011 12:52:55 PM

2 things I noticed -
  • The link provided for the ''how accurately can you tell damage in each gen'' article by obi leads to an invalid thread.
  • Honko's recent damage calc [The Honkalculator] should be added to this list as well, as it sure is a highly useful tool.

Oglemi Oct 12th, 2011 12:33:30 PM

Updated, thanks CP

Jukain Mar 9th, 2012 11:16:20 PM

I'd like to recommend this damage calculator that I've been using for about a year now.
luungoc2005's Generation 5 Damage Calculator
It hasn't been updated in a while, but most of the necessary sets are in it. Also, it has a really nice interface. I know it isn't "a C&C project", but it should definitely be on the list. Also, if you right click on the "Defender" or "Attacker" labels on top of each Pokemon box, you can import PO sets and export sets to PO format. Implementing stat boosts is also a breeze, as is anything not legal. Wonder Room, Critical Hit, Multiple Targets, and No Immunity can also be accounted for. Gender, Level, Status, Weight, Happiness, and HP Percent can all be changed. Flash Fire, Me First, Helping Hand, and Metronome counter may be accounted on the offensive side. As far as defensive options, hazards, screens, Mud Sport, and Water Sport can be accounted for.
252 +2 SpAtk Life Orb Thundurus Thunderbolt vs 4 HP/0 SpDef Chandelure: 81.68% - 96.56%
2 hits to KO

Possible HP Damage: 214, 217, 220, 222, 225, 228, 229, 232, 235, 237, 240, 243, 244, 247, 250, 253
You will also get a neat little description that says the possible HP damage and relevant investment and stat boosts of each Pokemon. Weather is also an option to set.

Reverse calculations are also easy to make. Moves and abilities may be filtered out. You can even change the base stats of each Pokemon to screw around. This is much easier than implementing types into the old calculator. Many targets for one attack may be chosen, and multiple specific defensive and offensive calculations can be made. Also, calculating stats of Pokemon quickly is very easy. You can also make up moves if you want to, even though other calculators can do it, it is easier to do. Also, you can right-click and install the calculator straight to your computer. The last neat little quirk is that you have a coverage calculator where you can pair the types of four moves together and see what coverage they get together.

Sorry for the kind of long post, and I know this isn't C&C work, but this calculator should have a link. Cheers!

Oglemi Mar 9th, 2012 11:42:07 PM

Until it's actually hosted on Smogon or posted in C&C it "can't" go in the best of C&C, since none of our contributors actually made it. You can put it in your sig or whatever to "advertise" it though (mostly because I have no way of accurately accrediting it to the creator).

Jukain Mar 10th, 2012 6:38:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Oglemi (Post 4141364)
Until it's actually hosted on Smogon or posted in C&C it "can't" go in the best of C&C, since none of our contributors actually made it. You can put it in your sig or whatever to "advertise" it though (mostly because I have no way of accurately accrediting it to the creator).

This user: luungoc2005 That's the creator.

Oglemi Mar 10th, 2012 6:39:51 PM

Then he needs to post in Projects in C&C or here himself to confirm that he is the creator. I believe you, but I don't want to go off and give credit to someone who doesn't deserve it.


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