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Crystal_ Jan 23rd, 2011 1:45:46 PM

Back to RSE. RMT Stall
 
After two years of RBY and GSC I have decided to make a comeback in RSE. I played it 2 years ago, but I used to play without any sense / strategy and without understanding the meta; I just knew basic pokemon, enough to win more than half of the battles with some prediction though, but nothing more, so I know I can't (shouldn't) use my past RSE knowledge now.


Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 122 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 32 Spd / 86 SAtk *Enough to KO Dugtrio
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Leech Seed
- Recover

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 254 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 46 Atk / 136 Def / 24 Spd / 52 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Claydol @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 202 Def / 56 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 122 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk
- Will-O-Wisp

As far as I read here, I have here the list of main threats but I don't actually know if I'm missing something important.

Ttar - Celebi / Swampert (+ Claydol) [depending on the set]
Flygon - Celebi / Swampert (+ Claydol) [depending on the set]
Gengar - Dusclops
Jirachi - Swampert / Blissey / Claydol [depending on the set]
Aerodactyl - Swampert + Skarmory
Metagross - Swampert + Skarmory
Mence - Swampert / Skarm / Claydol / Dusclops [depending on the set]
Heracross - Skarmory + Dusclops [prediction]
Zapdos - Celebi / Swampert + Blissey
Snorlax / Slaking / other CBNormals - Skarmory (+ Dusclops / Celebi etc [depending on the set]). With Maggy support prediction with Dusclops (is there a reasonable way to avoid Maggy?)
Gyarados - Skarm / Dusclops [depending on the set]

Yeah CalmCune. Also I don't know if there are some other threats for which a secondary phazer like Swampert is needed. Thoughts?

Also, going to Battle of the Week's team, variations to play with? (like Gengar / Jirachi etc).

Thanks.

-Absol- Jan 28th, 2011 12:34:58 PM

jynx wins
but also swordcross with a decent support, and for a stall team aren't good things :(

international mg is anyway as this team, or very similiar, other variantas are sdnacepassbi+dactyl/meta or cbmence + ttar+ cune... (and dugtrio/magneton are in 100% of teams)

is noious :(

gene Jan 28th, 2011 12:49:00 PM

your team would have to fight an uphill battle against the very common tss team. zapdos stalls you forever, that celebi set is weak. i don't think this kind of team is worth using anymore, it went out of style in 2006.

-Absol- Jan 28th, 2011 12:51:44 PM

in international mg it is :(
or similiar.


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