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Also I wasn't calling you out or anything; I wanted people to stop arguing semantics because that's not what the thread is for.

In regards to your other point, I don't think anyone is seriously arguing that Digpinch are anything other than trash, which is why I (and others) argued that the collateral damage wrought by an Arena Trap ban is negligible.

I'll admit that the Kyogre example is an exaggeration; it's sort of a classic Smogon thing that became an easy and relatable illustration to new users why we banned Greninja in XY and Blaziken in BW wholesale.

Wrt to your sig:

http://xkcd.com/1357/

Hopefully this resolves the contradiction you see.

Generally speaking, smogon's not against unbanning things ; the issue with Pokemon like Mega Lucario and Mega Kangaskhan is that they were tested and found to be broken. However, since Giratina-O was simply banned without a test, due to seeming way too powerful, it's a legitimate possibility that it won't be too broken.

Your sig is retarded