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  1. Orga777

    np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - I Can't Escape Myself (ARENA TRAP BANNED)

    So what you are saying is since a broken mon keeps other broken mons in check it might be better to potentially keep the clearly broken mon around. With that logic, why have a ban list at all? Just bring back Zygarde-C, Genesect, Pheromosa, Megagross and Aegislash at that point. Heck, just bring...
  2. Orga777

    np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - I Can't Escape Myself (ARENA TRAP BANNED)

    It is more than just Stall. People are using Eject Button more than usual these days just to guarantee killing something with Duggy. Especially on Pex. Heck seen a Latios with Eject Button once or twice. The problem with Duggy is that something can and will be killed by it with ease, and with...
  3. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    That is wrong. Koko and Gren are VERY common leads. I really don't know where you got that, but if they are on a team, it has a high chance of being a lead. They both have the speed and abilities necessary for them to function perfectly as leads, even over Lando. And while not all Koko run...
  4. Orga777

    Resource Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread (read the op before posting a thread)

    Heracross is a scary mon to swtich in on. They can't do that easily.
  5. Orga777

    Metagame Mega Evolution in Sun & Moon

    When it comes to Mega Diancie, a good partner is Celesteela for sure. They share no weaknesses and Celesteela covers the severe Steel weakness and is a ground immunity. Gotta watch out for Koko's, though.
  6. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Well, Ferro aside, if you are running Scald, Scizor can't really switch in effectively since the burn chance makes it pretty useless.
  7. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Starmie rising is good without Phero since it beats most rock setters and can pressure many switch-ins. However, even with Analytic, I think Scald might be better than Pump right now. The chance to Burn mons is hard to pass up. The problem with Starmie is what to run right now. Water Move and...
  8. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Good luck getting that when Beedrill is constantly pressured all day long. And if you are running Knock Off+Fell Stinger, I like the forever walled by Heatran and almost every other steel mon set you got there.
  9. Orga777

    Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread v3

    I don't think so. It can't just switch in for free. If Medicham uses Ice Punch or Thunder Punch on Mimikyu's switch, and breaks the disguise it no longer can just switch in. The Elemental Punches do 71-84% to LO Mimikyu if Adamant, and 65-77% if Jolly.That is a guaranteed 2HKO no matter what...
  10. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    The problem with Beedrill is that its coverage is awful. I like the mon a lot and it can be cool on specific teams, but it really can't do a whole lot overall. Too many defensive threats. It only fits well on trapping teams, and even that is suspect at best since Lando-T beats Beedrill, Dugtrio...
  11. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Pyuk hates Poison more than any of them outside Shed. Lol. And Pyuk can't do much of anything but throw off a Toxic of its own in retaliation. All the rest can do other things. Also if you have Pyuk over Clef on Stall, Sub Coil Toxic Zygarde just 6-0s your whole team.
  12. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Well of course Hoopa is better than Hydreigon. That isn't much of a debate. However, Hydreigon is a Ground Immunity, is bulkier, and is a Ghost resist which is sorely lacking on every team. Hoopa is none of those things. Hoopa is usually locked into something as well and easy to revenge kill due...
  13. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Hydreigon isn't trash right now. Only Fini, Clef, and Chansey switches in effectively on LO 3 Atk + Roost. Hydreigon gets free switches against locked Gengar, A-Marow, Ferrothorn, Pex, Skarm, locked Gren and many others. It teams well with MegaGross. With Phero out its viability will go up...
  14. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    It has to do with the really bad typing it has. Ice/Ground really isn't the best thing defensively. Although, offensively I do think it can cause problems. I made a team and then faced a Mamoswine... realizing it breaks my face open all on its own. Have to sack a mon just to kill it. lol. So if...
  15. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    I agree with this. It is obnoxious to see Greninja in Team Preview. Guess wrong and you lose a mon unless you have something like Toxapex. It really is as simple as that usually.
  16. Orga777

    np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Beauty and the Boost - Pheromosa is now banned

    Yeah well, Mega Metagross and Greninja are both busted, too, even with Phero in the tier. They will get their suspects eventually, I am sure. So far I like how everything is shaping up without Pheromosa. Sure, Gross and Gren are as obnoxious as ever, but I have been trying some interesting...
  17. Orga777

    Metagame Mega Evolution in Sun & Moon

    I agree Mega Gardevoir will still be pretty good, but what makes Tapu Lele better isn't just the ability... It is the fact that it doesn't take up a Mega slot and still does the same job Gardevoir does while only being a little bit weaker overall and if it is scarfed, significantly faster. To...
  18. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    That is silly. With that logic, Ghost would be a bad offensive typing since it only hits two things for Super Effective damage. Dragon, Ghost and Normal STAB all have limited "super-effective hits" but all are very hard to just switch into without fear. What Resists Dragon? Two things. What...
  19. Orga777

    Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Dragon isn't a horrible offensive typing at all. It has one resist and one immunity and hits everything else for at least neutral. Draco Meteor is so powerful that nothing really wants to take it at all. Also, unlike Rock, which is up there with Ice and Psychic as one of the worst Defensive...
  20. Orga777

    np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 1 - Digital Love - Genesect is now banned

    Guess the set between 8 of them and come back to me. When your "counters" are killed because you guess wrong on a mon that can beat all of its "counters" then, I don't know what to tell you. Also, Stall being more prevalent means nothing for a ban. Stall may suck, but Genesect's mindless click...