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  1. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    In the situation of Tornadus-T revenge killing the Terrakion, Weavile is the only check that has a chance of beating Tornadus-T. And that's only if SR is down. However, if a counter was brought in, Tornadus-T can switch out with U-Turn, giving the Tornadus-T player the momentum. I doubt...
  2. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    What are you talking about? Ferrothorn can at best Revenge kill Tornadus-T, and that's only if you are brave enough to keep your Tornadus-T in on a full health Ferrothorn. You need to stop posting for a while. Max specially defensive Ferrothorn still can't switch into Tornadus-T. You take a...
  3. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Why did you stay in? Tornadus-T cannot OHKO Ferrothorn without Heatwave, and you were most likely in the rain, so switching out would have been the better play. Tornadus-T fainted due to a misplay on your part.
  4. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    ...I didn't ask a question. Obviously switching out is a big factor for Tornadus-T because it has Regenerator. Please try to use your brain before trying to criticize one of my posts. Swift swimmers, Excadrill, and Manaphy needed weather support to sweep. Tornadus-T isn't a sweeper, its a...
  5. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Tornadus-T can just dance around many of the counters suggested. Instead of implying how much better you are than I am at this game, how about you talk about the subject at hand?
  6. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Why are you still ignoring one of Tornadus-T's most important aspects? Its ability to survive allows it to beat the vast majority of the OU tier easily. Hurricane isn't OHKO'ing anything, but nothing can stop Tornadus-T from performing the cycle of Hurricane/Focus Blast -> U-Turn -> Repeat...
  7. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Don't be vague. I have listed several supporting pokemon for Tornadus-T that helps it get around its counters. Name some supporting Pokemon for the counters of Tornadus-T.
  8. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    @Neliel You are ignoring the fact that Tornadus-T can switch out and regain its health. Also, supporting Pokemon do matter in this discussion. When we discussed Genesect, Dugtrio was brought up often, as this combination was destroying everything in the metagame. Ferrothorn, Dugtrio, and...
  9. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Once again, the most threatening things about Tornadus-T are that powerful Hurricane, Regenerator, and it's blistering speed. Nothing can stop it from coming in, nuking something with Hurricane, and U-Turning out to whatever it wants. I understand what you are saying, as Jirachi ans Rotom-W...
  10. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Please try not to sound so condescending when your aren't really adding much to the discussion. In the situation of Jirachi vs Dugtrio, if Dugtrio gets an Earthquake, you just lost your Tornadus-T counter. Even though Dugtrio didn't kill Jirachi, Jirachi is crippled to the point of not being...
  11. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    252 SpA Life Orb Tornadus-T Focus Blast vs. 52 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 289-341 (86.01 - 101.48%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO 252 SpA Heatran Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Tornadus-T: 186-220 (62.2 - 73.57%) -- guaranteed 2HKO I fail to see how Heatran is stopping Tornadus-T at all. Tornadus-T...
  12. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    What separates Tornadus-T is the ability to outlive all of its "counters". No other Pokemon in OU gets the combo of threatening stab, decent power, amazing speed, and good recovery JUST from swtiching out. You keep saying you can revenge it, but there really isn't anyway you can stop it from...
  13. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    You're still contradicting yourself. Choose one side of an argument and support it. Got it memorized? You can't pick and choose what support you want a Pokemon to have. I don't even realize the point of this little argument. It's not like Hurricane has 0% accuracy outside of rain...
  14. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Didn't people do that with Skymin? That whole 60% = 100% arguement? Actually, you just mentioned it a couple of posts ago. Anyways, so you're saying Scizor is a check as long as Tornadus-T has taken enough damage? Pretty generic check to me. That's the same as saying "Hydreigon can sweep an...
  15. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    If you aren't using CB Scizor, then you're even more likely to lose in that situation. Just saying. I assumed that both had just taken SR damage. If Tornadus-T has 70% left, it still wins in that situation by switching out, because a BP will kill it. 252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Pursuit vs. 0...
  16. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    252 SpA Life Orb Tornadus-T Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Scizor: 270-320 (78.71 - 93.29%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tornadus-T: 195-229 (65.21 - 76.58%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk...
  17. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    You're logic would make sense if we were talking about strictly one on one battles. However, nobody uses just one Pokemon in Wifi OU. A Pokemon + its surrounding factors must justify it for being deemed broken. Excadrill by itself was pretty tame, but with Sand Rush, it became a monster...
  18. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Excadrill is nowhere near broken without Sand Rush. It is far too slow to do anything in OU. Manaphy's CM set would be outclassed by Keldeo and the Tail Glow set fails to defeat Jellicent or Blissey and would be prone to being revenge killed easily. You can't ignore certain factors about a...
  19. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    Again I throw the Excadrill and Manaphy agruement at you. Neither of there would be broken without weather support. We are looking at the Pokemon as a whole, including support.
  20. np: BW OU Suspect Testing Round 9 - Rock You Like a Hurricane

    I don't think you're looking at this logically. NONE of them can stop Tornadus-T from switching out. By your logic, Genesect wouldn't have been banned because "It's not our problem if it gets a Special Attack boost."
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