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I'm not sure what bulky waters you're talking about as almost all the common water types I can think of can't counter LO Zygarde very reliably at all. Suicune and Alomomola don't really pack an ice move so they can be broken through, Volcanion and Empoleon get blown away, Rotom-W will be knocked...

I'm sure this seems uncontroversial enough to most but I'm 100% against this. Zygarde is one the most underrated DDers in the tier and has numerous advantages over Dragonite. People's tendency to underrate DD Zygarde relative to DDnite is one of my favourite examples of the fallibility of the...

Nidoking B -> B+ - Disagree Clearly going against the grain here but this thing feels overhyped to me. A lot of people have been saying stall and slow, bulky playstyles are dominant lately, so you can see why a wallbreaker like this is becoming more popular, but I think the ability to break...

Aegislash losing King's Shield would definitely push it below that borderline, it would be much worse. It could only really do hit and run, lose to nearly all Pursuit trappers, though maybe it could still run Toxic stall. The only issue I have with that idea is the whole unconventional banning...

The community needs to basically decide what they really want. Previously I've thought the priority was to have a diverse metagame with many viable Pokemon, but now it's become a trend for people to complain about matchup. Aegislash would fix that problem by centralising things and making loads...

Down with elevation moves. I don't care what presidents we set, Magnet Rise Obama is broken and needs to go.

The fact it checks Talonflame is also quite significant since it's likely going to be used on HO teams which are often very weak to it. Checking Tornadus, Pidgeot, Raikou, Pinsir, Dragonite, etc. is also nice

I don't agree with the idea that stall will suffer for this. Yes, it has lost some good options like Mega Sableye/Slowbro/Venu, but it also benefits from a significant reduction in the number of dangerous wallbreakers. The Megas of Gardevoir, Heracross, Pinsir, Charizard X (SD/Outrage variants)...

What's Lure Whirpool Latias? Sounds intriguing

The problem is that Keldeo also "does well to check Crawdaunt, Kabutops, aspects of rain offence and Bisharp", while also having far greater Speed/offence and similar bulk. You're not wrong but you need to address specifically why Poliwrath would be better than Keldeo in some situations. From...

This isn't true. Ditto is actually very good against stall in stall vs stall match ups as it effectively has unlimited PP (which potentially translates to unlimited Heal Bells, Wishes, Stealth Rocks, Defogs, Taunts, etc.) and it can grab advantage just by switching in and tracing abilities like...

Fair point, it looked like a solid enough group of Pokemon to be used as a team lol. I think we've discussed this about as far as we can. We're agreed that Deo-D is a great hazard setter, but I think the meta has moved far enough away from the XY DeoSharp HO days for Deo HO to not obviously be...

I appreciate your arguments but I'm not convinced Deo-D offers something exceptionally broken in that scenario compared to the other suicide leads we happily accept (Azelf, Terrakion). The example team you mention is still quite terrifying when you swap Deo-D for a replacement like that. While I...

The reason Deoxys-D gets banned while Mew sticks around: Deoxys-D doesn't have to stop at rocks. Mew can Taunt, lay hazards, it's faster, it's about as bulky, its typing is the same, but because it cannot lay down up to 4 hazard layers nobody has ever claimed it is broken as a lead. Deoxys-D...

On retesting: I don't understand why people are talking about retesting Aegislash and Genesect. If we are going to bring Ubers back to OU for testing, shouldn't we choose Pokemon that perform worse in ORAS OU, rather than better? Earlier the argument was used that Genesect would be good to...

Extra insurance against Ferrothorn is always worthwhile on a rain team. You can run an anti-Ferrothorn move on every Pokemon and still find it awkward to deal with, because it beats pretty much all rain mons 1v1. Focus Blast on Ludicolo can finish off a weakened Ferrothorn that another Pokemon...

Mega Venusaur and SpDef Unaware Clefable can take it. SpDef Zapdos could work, and maybe Mega Altaria. Interestingly some of these are also some of stall's best/only answers to Rain Dance booster Manaphy, so it's not totally niche. There is starting to be way too many wallbreakers though. It...

Def. Mega Altaria counters this, as does unaware Clefable, and that Gardevoir set you mentioned could. ...Then they all get destroyed by Gunk Shot mixed sets, lol

There are actually quite a few checks AV Serp handles better Starmie's Ice Beam, Raikou's HP Ice, Azelf's Flamethrower (remember these 3 outspeed Serperior with HP Fire due to max 30 Speed IV), Thundurus' HP Ice/Flying, Keldeo's HP Flying (for safer switch-in), Slowbro's Ice Beam/Fire Blast...

He mentioned it as something that can revenge kill non-AV Serperior, not something Serperior counters