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Im going to go take on an unpopular opinion and state that Lucario is a B+ pokemon.
Most of you know him as a sword dance user. Which is why he'd also make a great all out attacker.
Let's look at calcs
252+ Atk Life Orb Lucario Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 367-432 (93.1 -...
Did anyone bother doing a reverse calculation on Metagross HP? It seems rather low
168 HP for a Level 50
252 EV
15 IV 69
31 IV 61
152 EV
15 IV 82
31 IV 74
0 IV
15 IV 101
31 IV 93
Take note I have no idea how to calculate
In my opinion it depends on your team. Is it weak to Scarf Keldeo, TalonFlame, Starmies? Then go with Extremespeed
However, Scarf Terrakions, Greninja after Ice beam, Gengars...then Bullet Punch
Hey there Ze,
Welcome to Smogon and competitive play, mate! Feel free to ask me for help anytime.
On to the rate, I'll just work my way down.
Mienshao has a gifted ability and can go take on some damage because of it. Therefore, you shouldn't fear putting High Jump Kick, and Life orb on it...
Hello Mate,
Just a small nitpick. For Breloom, I would change Life Orb and test out Fist Plate instead. This helps Breloom's Duration. I would also switch Low Sweep With Focus Punch, as this allows you to beat and hurt a lot of Significant threats. For example,
252 Atk Fist Plate Breloom Focus...
In the end it comes to your risk tolerance. I'm a fairly aggressive player and need to be aggressive with my Pokemon. If you don't feel the need to test it then, cheers. We won't get anywhere with this.
It's important to note that every team on average will have a wall to Lucario. Having...
Hello Mate,
Your team is a solid team but I do agree that there are some problems. The biggest one is that it really doesn't have a Huge surprise factors. Notice that most of the teams that top usually end up doing something unique.
What I would do is change your Scizor into a Flying Gem...
I understand where your concern is but I'd like to point out that those reliable moves are not killing anyone or the coverage on them is not to great.
Lando/Gliscors/Dnites get hit by Ice Punch
Jellicents/Reuniclus/Gengar get hit by Crunch
However,
Iron Tail Ohkos after a SD most these...
I do hope that you plan on going into depth with this. Saying "Period" doesn't justify the end of a conversation.
He/She meant generally speaking after the Pokebank comes out.
Yes, you are correct. We are in agreement
They fill different roles. Lucario's speed allows it to Kill threats...
Here's the scary thing. If you have a SD off, most of the time Scenario plays like this
Player 2 sent Aegislash
Player 1 used swords dance
Player 2 King's Shield
Player 1 Swords dance
At this point here are the calcs
+2 252 Atk Adaptability Lucario Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 0 Def (custom)...
I know it does but sad to say it really doesn't do much, even after SR.
I personally Prefer Iron Tail. Let's look at some calcs.
+1 252 Atk Adaptability Lucario Iron Tail vs. 248 HP / 172 Def Landorus-T: 326-384 (85.56 - 100.78%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth
+2 252 Atk Adaptability...
Hello Mate,
Here is my suggestion to you:
I believe scarf Politoed is a great idea. almost anything that switches into it first turn gets hit by a surprise Factor. Before we get into all that, lets change a few things about your Politoed. It needs immediate impact. Try Running Hydro Pump/Ice...
Umm what exactly are you OHKOing? All those pokemon are 2HKO and can OHKO a Lucario.
Not to mention you don't have priority so TalonFlame and Breloom end the sweep
BuddhaSmite
Let's look at MegaLucario's Extremespeed based on Jolly Lucario
TalonFlame
252 Atk Lucario ExtremeSpeed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def (custom): 126-149 (42.28 - 50%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Latios
+2 252 Atk Lucario ExtremeSpeed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 229-270 (76.07 -...
Hey there, I stated earlier in my post its better to run Jolly. Because you end up outspeeding:
Latios
Latias
Espeon
Gengar
Keldeo
Terrakion
Infernape
Garchomp
Thundurus-T
Salamence
Jirachi
Celebi
Volcarona
Tentacruel
Ninetales
Hydreigon
Finally, someone agrees with me.
I don't believe you included Multiscale
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 163-192 (50.3 - 59.25%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Anyways,
What teams have you all been testing lucario on?
Just stating here that when megaevolving, the NEW base speed stat is taken into account. So Jolly MegaLucario should be able to outspeed Normal Jolly Garchomps
Problem #1
So I was in a battle between Adamant or Jolly Lucario. Based on Black on White tiers, these are the pokemon that outspeed adamant Lucario if they were to be fully invested in speed themselves.
Latios
Latias
Espeon
Gengar
Keldeo
Terrakion
Infernape
Garchomp
Thundurus-T
Salamence...
Would this apply to MegaCharizard Y bringing in drougt to make Excadrill loose his ability?
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