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Guys, please stop looking for counters to BP. Just because you can list stuff like haze quagsire (useless against normal teams. Really.) doesn't mean BP shouldn't be banned. In fact, that is precisely the reason why it should be banned. The fact that the community actually list down counters...

Hold up there. When Gen 6 was beta and people were arguing about banning mega gengar, did you know that no one in top 10 used it in their team. Sure its, usage was fairly decent but I'm sure the comments have already gave quite abit of examples on how usage doesn't really matter if a Pokemon is...

I think most people here do agree that steel got nerfed. Not many good and hard hitting steel types in OU top 50, partly due to the fact that there are very little strong steel moves (screw you scizor). Most steel types are tanks and things like ferrothorn and forretress are really feeling the...

woah, hold up there. Okay, I agree with you that viable strats and all is by definition competitive, but the point of this thread is sorta to ponder on whether baton pass teams should be considered as a legal strat. I guess its sorta like the first ever recorded incident of someone using say...

I don't think we should be mentioning counters to baton pass teams as a reason to not ban them or how its manageable. The point here is that baton pass teams a) sweep teams that are unprepared for it (a majority of the teams currently), b) requires very specific counters which disrupts the whole...

First off, I don't think we should be discussing about specific pokemons that counter baton pass teams. Even if you could find one, baton pass would still be worthy of a ban because then every team would need that specific counter and this would mean baton pass's influence on the meta game is...

Fair point. Didn't really think through the prediction game. Hazards will be detrimental to this. Also, I guess this is a soft counter in a way? Stops Gengar from doing it's job, albeit temporarily. I do understand it's not very reliable in most situations. Will think through more scenarios.

This is a good point. I agree with it till the part where Mega-Gengar is considered worse than any of the above. I beg to differ. Mega-Gengar is claimed to be worse because he 'easily' traps counters to your team. Taunt I can understand, Perish Song to an extent as well (once again, volt...

That is exactly my point. Those are the exact points that also show that Mega-Gengar doesn't need to be banned. Just because it isn't meant to sweep. It's because it's role in a team is a support which is why I do not think it deserves a ban. Perish Song is easily countered by U-turn/Volt Switch...

I am beginning to see why people think Mega-Gengar needs to be banned. With the sheer amount of points listed, various calcs and detailed explanation, it is not an easy feat for the anti-bans (me included, but please don't be bias and stop reading >.<) Theoretically, it seems that Mega-Gengar is...

Sorry maybe I haven't been playing enough OU Pokebanks. All I've seen were sweeper m-gengars and those were meh. Priorities do kill it, CB Scizor OHKO with Bullet Punch after passive damage and Talonflame with Acrobatics as well as Shadow Sneak from Aegislash. Totally forgot bout Destiny Bond...

Hmm fair points, didn't really think of those, haven't been playing enough pokebank OU I guess. So far most of the M-Gengars I've seen try to be sweepers and saved till late game, which is why I talked about lack of priority moves. I disagree with the moveset being unpredictable tho because...

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