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  1. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    See, the thing about Galvantula is that 1. Stickweb is brutal against many teams 2. 97% accurate Thunder is pretty baller It's attack isn't anything to write home about, but it's going to make dents with Thunder. Bug Buzz is also pretty decent. Plus, it has options like Volt switch and...
  2. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    I don't think Mega Pinsir makes it to S due to sheer, absolute predictability, and the Rocks issue. Similar issue with Charizard X. If Charizard makes it, it'll make it because it has two different Megas, not one or the other.
  3. Pokémon Talonflame

    What's the ground natural gift? Could be fun to beat Tran. No need for fighting since tyranitar already hates uturn
  4. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    I believe weezing is getting an analysis because it got poison spikes this gen. Does it get anything else?
  5. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    Reliable recovery would absolutely make Rotom better. Poison heal puts gliscor's recovery in à different league. I still don't agree with Rotom being S. It won't make it for walling ability, because as great as its typing is, lack of good recovery is a deal breaker there. this isn't stingy...
  6. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    The answer to the earlier question was heatran, also in A+. The critical factor is lack of recovery.
  7. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    There's been dearth of new placements in general, unless I've missed something in the last 20 pages. How about Chesnaught? Bullet proof allows it to hard counter most Aegislash sets. Also, resisting earthquake and dark moves is particularly good this meta. It also has a better protect for seed...
  8. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    0\0 Zygarde is the dd set. He does actually acknowledge that Salamence can have problems regardless of set, but his point is Salmence has viable mixed options. Options good. Intimidate and moxie good. Oog oog oog. Also, regarding the above post-considering Zygarde has basically the best...
  9. Pokémon Zygarde

    He probably just means usage statistics. Even Salamence is dropping this time, and KyuremB is currently Uu. Anyway both are probably gettin kicked out later.
  10. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    I'd weigh in at C for Amoongus- it walls well, spore is great, but its too onedimensional and easily countered, which is the crippling flaw. Its also partially outclassed by msaur. Possibly C+, having seen its uber usage, but that probably isn't relevant.
  11. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    I suppose I wouldn't either, but it's not stellar with very little resistances. Factoring that, it's probably switching in at best three times, probably less and more likely to be less with rocks. Considering switching in is what it wants to do, often, I can't see it pushing the upper bound of B.
  12. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    The biggest problem with Manetric is that even with intimidate, it gets worn down a bit too quickly for a good voltturn core. It's just really frail.
  13. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    Msaur has the option of being a strong offense. it could be pure too, if it needed to be. And no. The last 10 pages Msaur is a restatement of 30 pages ago, and there were no clear arguments against it then either, that weren't refuted. If you want to make one, do it well and clearly. Be in depth.
  14. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    It walls better than the next best things. It has good offenses. Where heatran and rotom have rocks and voltswitch, msaur has poisoning, sleep, and seeds. Its a clear step up as a defensive Pokemon. What else could you want? Where are you seeing mediocrity? Anyhow I'd agree on Rotom-H for B...
  15. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    No, that's not it. You stated various deficiencies you think msaur has, and I told you that those deficiencies weren't there. Basically, the things you think are spotty are not. But anyway, considering Rotom-W, the next best wall is in A+, and can't recover on will, I'm fairly sure msaur is...
  16. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    Comments in bold in quote. I didn't expect to disagree so much.
  17. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    Then you'd need to drop genesect and lucairo too, because they don't do a good job at dealing with the most centralizing presence either. I don't think usage of threats is super relevant to the teirings at the top. Anyway, about msaur- he can totally drop from S, but probably not in the...
  18. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    I can't really say too much about ranking it, but every time I hear people complaining Msaur doesn't hit back hard or take hits well I cringe. It has 122 special attack. That is high enough that on non mega you could consider a revenge scarfer. Its got the power beat anything that doesn't...
  19. Pokémon Clawitzer

    The point of most slow Mons usually isn't to sweep, I think. Clawziter is just a holepuncher. Put it in safely, and they'll either switch out or hit clawziter as it fires off a massive attack. Guess their move well, and you'll probably kill something. After that, if clawziter took a hit, its...
  20. Pokémon Lucario

    Let me put down some calcs, since discussing the boosting sets is boiling down to "Boosted Lucario kills everything!" and "But scarf Sect kills it and it's hard to set up!" Here are some arbitrary calcs against OU pokemon without boosting. I feel like this is worthwhile because Deoxys was...
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