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  1. Other Stall

    Kyurem-B definitely belongs to the "must be walled" list. It was known as the bane of stall in Gen 5 for a reason and not even the fairies were enough to put a full stop to its rampage in XY. The Sub+3 attacks set is easy to handle (unless Chansey is down - at that point Kyu-B can easily sweep...
  2. np: XY OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Ghost of Perdition

    What. Greninja is going to use Dark Pulse against Aegislash. If anything Aegislash should be using Sacred Sword, assuming it's running it.
  3. Other Stall

    I wouldn't speak of "impending doom" regarding Aegislash just yet since the anti-ban side is very strong this time around (unlike stuff like the Deoxys formes). I doubt it will be banned, but if it is then I belive Sableye is the only one that can take its place since it has Recover and great...
  4. Minor Meta Modifcations Metagame (aka M4) Development thread

    Reserving Kyurem Stats: +5 Speed Movepool: +Dragon Dance, +Icicle Crash These buffs are targeted at Kyurem-B of course. Icicle Crash was chosen over Ice Punch because it fits all 3 Kyurem formes better flavor-wise. Kyu-B is the only one with a giant ice arm after all.
  5. CAP 19 CAP 19 - Part 1 - Concept Submissions

    Name - Not a gimmick Description - A pokemon with the right tools to make successfully use of a strategy normally dismissed as a gimmick. Justification- OU is often criticized for being an uncreative metagame where the only effective movesets involve sheer power or ludicrous walling or support...
  6. Move Best Moves in the OU Metagame

    Mandatory Ice Beam mention. Ice is the most common weakness found among S- and A-ranked pokemon, with 13/40 being weak to it (14 if you count Venusaur before mega evolving), making the move highly spammable. Ice weakness is also common among the lower ranks, with pokemon such as Zapdos and...
  7. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    That's the point. Mandibuzz, or one of the many ice-weak defoggers, will probably switch out giving Froslass more free turns to stack Spikes - that's what makes her effective. Sure they can try to Defog later after Froslass has been KO'd, but that's when Bisharp and Defiant Thundurus-I come in...
  8. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    It is and I edited my post accordingly, but Greninja almost always runs a fully offensive set because that's its best niche in OU.
  9. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    I'm going to bring up Froslass once again. She's currently in D rank, but now that the Deoxys formes have been banned she can effectively run a suicide lead set without the risk of being outclassed so she deserves to be moved up. Not counting Klefki, Scolipede and Greninja (the latter two have...
  10. np: XY OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Ghost of Perdition

    That's because the other defensive ghost types are, quite frankly, a joke. Gourgeist and Trevenant are weak to dangerous offensive types (Dark, Ice, Fire and Flying in particular) that are very common in OU, Dusclops is extremely passive, Cofagrigus has no reliable recovery and it's low HP stat...
  11. np: XY OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Ghost of Perdition

    You know what bothers me about this 50/50 argument? It's not the fact that until this suspect test started nobody even mentioned it, it's that we went from "KS mindgames bring an element of prediction to the table and thus encourage skillful play" to "KS 50/50 mindgames introduce an unecessary...
  12. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    It's funny how people are arguing against Thundy-T's viability and on this very same page we have this: Kabutops is a B+ rank pokemon that never sees usage outside rain. Thundurus-T is the perfect Electric-type sweeper and immunity for rain teams yet people are so adamant against promoting it...
  13. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    Now that the Deoxys formes have been banned I believe Froslass needs to move up since she's an effective lead with Spikes, D.Bond, Taunt and Ice Beam (which can 2HKO many common defoggers such as Latios and Zapdos). I would say C rank is appropriate. Except Florges has no niche whatsoever over...
  14. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    As I mentioned Thundurus-T has a niche as the offensive electric type of choice for rain teams thanks to the critical Electric immunity it provides. It's not a big niche, but it's significant enough to be considered. There is nothing else in OU that can fit that role - Manectric is the closest...
  15. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    Thundurus-T is better than Thundurus-I in rain teams since it provides a much needed Electric immunity. Prankster isn't as useful in those teams because rain turns are precious and you want to deal as much damage as possible rather than use status moves and priority T.Wave shenanigans are less...
  16. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    You're seriously underestimating the amount of support Scolipede provides. If it can let something as frail as Espeon to suddenly turn into a bulky set-up sweeper that can can OHKO most of the meta, imagine what it can do with more dangerous threats such as M-Mawile. The support it provides is...
  17. Pokémon Diancie

    I still can't wrap my head around the idea Diancie doesn't learn Power Gem. She got hit by the Kyurem-B syndrome where she's practically always forced to be mixed and therefore can't fully take advantage of her offensive stats. And she's slow to boot.
  18. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    Cloyster is far from a "gimmick sweeper" and now that the Deos are gone it's also an excellent lead. Thundurus-I doesn't need to be "gone" because it can still run Ice Shard. Before you say that Ice Shard is not worth it, Ice is the most common weakness among S- and A-rank pokemon, with 13 of...
  19. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V2) (Last update on post #5189)

    It might be beating a dead horse, but these replays pretty much confirm that Scolipede has always been the issue all along with BP chains. In fact, I would use them as evidence to move Scolipede up to A+ or even S rank because it might potentially fit the criteria for "broken support". Espeon is...
  20. Mantine [QC 0/3]

    "Bad defensive typing" is misleading since bulky Gyarados is highly valued for its water/flying type.
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